[issue24759] Idle: require ttk (and tcl/tk 8.5)

2015-08-01 Thread Serhiy Storchaka

Serhiy Storchaka added the comment:

Ttk widgets are partially compatible with Tk widgets, so in many cases it is 
possible to make partial upgrade without major rewriting. Some changes perhaps 
need major rewriting (using styles, changing layout), and I think this is what 
the PEP does not allow. However it is possible that all changes can be done 
without major rewriting, we don't know until try.

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[issue24759] Idle: require ttk (and tcl/tk 8.5)

2015-08-01 Thread Terry J. Reedy

Terry J. Reedy added the comment:

Re-reading PEP 434, I was mistaken to apply this patch to 2.7 and 3.4 without 
further discussion.  The PEP says The PEP would apply to minor ..., but not 
necessarily to possible major re-writes such as switching to themed widgets ... 
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Nick, should I post something on python-ideas or pydev, or continue here (moved 
from #24750) about making the switch also in 2.7 and 3.4?

I believe it would be best overall to at upgrade Idle 2.7, but I will not cry 
if we stop patching it now. Ditto for 3.4, which will soon get security fixes 
only anyway.  I am ok with using ttk starting with 3.5.

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resolution: fixed - 
stage: resolved - 
title: Idle: require 8.5 / ttk - Idle: require ttk (and tcl/tk 8.5)

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[issue24759] Idle: require ttk (and tcl/tk 8.5)

2015-08-01 Thread Mark Roseman

Mark Roseman added the comment:

Got it re: 2.7/3.4. So the only stumbling block left to 8.5/ttk in 3.5 would be 
the current Mac build that is ok with Tcl/Tk 8.4...?

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