[issue40053] Document the behavior that no interplotation is applied when no *args are passed in for logging statements

[Eric V. Smith]

Eric V. Smith  added the comment:

Thanks for the bug report! I'll mark it "fixed". If there's more to do, let us 
know.

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[issue40053] Document the behavior that no interplotation is applied when no *args are passed in for logging statements

[Nan Hua]

Nan Hua  added the comment:

Note that this issue has already been mostly addressed by 
https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/19132. I think we can close this issue 
now. Thanks Eric, Gregory and Vinay!

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[issue40053] Document the behavior that no interplotation is applied when no *args are passed in for logging statements

[Eric V. Smith]

Eric V. Smith  added the comment:

I think it's important that logging has this feature for the reasons stated, so 
it should be documented.

And hopefully it's also tested for, but I haven't looked.

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assignee:  -> docs@python
components: +Documentation -Library (Lib)
nosy: +docs@python, eric.smith
stage:  -> needs patch
versions: +Python 3.7, Python 3.8

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[issue40053] Document the behavior that no interplotation is applied when no *args are passed in for logging statements

[Karthikeyan Singaravelan]

Change by Karthikeyan Singaravelan :


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[issue40053] Document the behavior that no interplotation is applied when no *args are passed in for logging statements

[Nan Hua]

New submission from Nan Hua :

As I see, Python's logging module's implementation has a nice property that, 
when no additional args are passed in, the msg (first argument) will be 
directly printed.

For example, logging.error('abc %s') can be handled peacefully with printing 
"ERROR:root:abc %s" in the log.

However, the logging's documentation only said the followings:
"The msg is the message format string, and the args are the arguments which are 
merged into msg using the string formatting operator."

>From what I see, this implementation (seems the case for both Python2 and 
>Python3) has many benefits: saving CPU resources, safe handling pre-formated 
>string, etc. More importantly, it also de-facto allows using the convenient 
>f-string in logging statement, e.g. 

logging.error(f'Started at {start_time}, finished at {finish_time}'
  f' by user {user}')

can run correctly and smoothly even with user containing %s inside.

In summary, I hope this de-facto actual behavior can be officially endorsed, 
with wordings like,
"When *args is empty, i.e. no additional positional arguments passed in, the 
msg be of any string (no need to be a format string) and will be directly used 
as is without interpolation."

What do you think? Thank you a lot!

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components: Library (Lib)
messages: 364920
nosy: nhua
priority: normal
severity: normal
status: open
title: Document the behavior that no interplotation is applied when no *args 
are passed in for logging statements
type: behavior
versions: Python 3.9

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