[issue45451] IDLE - modify text frame and widget borders

[Ashlyn Woods]

Ashlyn Woods  added the comment:

In addition, I would encourage that people in future try to get a bigger gauge 
of how many people actually want a feature like this, how many don't, and then 
make a decision about whether to put it in- considering that there have been a 
fair few cases where people have clearly reacted negatively to this, maybe you 
should have checked if people'd dislike it before rolling it out w/o any easy 
way of undoing it.

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[issue45451] IDLE - modify text frame and widget borders

[Ashleigh Woods]

Ashleigh Woods  added the comment:

At a minimum, I think that there should be a toggle for whether this should be 
present or not, without having to dig in and change the values in IDLE (with, 
I'd like to note, absolutely no clue where to do that!). This is particularly 
an issue for beginners.

It'd also be nice to control the color scheme/size etc, but I can understand if 
that's more complicated.

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[issue45451] IDLE - modify text frame and widget borders

[primexx]

primexx  added the comment:

for what it's worth, Notepad++ is highly configurable. Here's what mine looks 
like with borders set to 0 and some sidebar items disabled. Even though it is 
the same classic theme, it looks a lot better than default.

There's the more substantial point to note that Notepad++ is not interactive, 
the need to have an extremely tight visual coupling between the margin and the 
main body on a line-per-line basis is significantly reduced. Likewise, the line 
numbers separated by a border in the IDLE editor are not really bothersome 
either, it looks natural enough. It only really sticks out in the interactive 
interpreter.

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[issue45451] IDLE - modify text frame and widget borders

[Terry J. Reedy]

Terry J. Reedy  added the comment:

This issue applies to both Shell, with the prompt sidebar, and editor windows, 
with line number sidebars.  I looked carefully at Windows Notepad++ editor 
tabs.  They have a tab border, separate from the window border, that 
encompasses the line numbers, text, and scrollbar, but not the status bar.  The 
are no internal lines between the three components.  But the line numbers and 
scrollbar have a light gray background that separates them from the text.  

The IDLE text widgets instead have a border around the text but apparently not 
one around the larger frame.  As a result, text widgets with just a scrollbar 
do not look exactly right.  It would be easy to delete the text border and 
adjust the frame border. But as I suggested previously, I am pretty sure 
deleting it entirely would require a default light gray background.

Any change would have to be tested on all 3 major systems.

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title: IDLE Shell GUI - remove window border -> IDLE - modify text frame and 
widget borders

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