[issue17864] IDLE won't run
New submission from Ben Read: I am installing Python 3.31 on a Mac running OS 10.8.2 and have already installed ActiveTCL 8.5.13. When I try and launch IDLE, the icon appears on the dock for a second and then disappears and the application doesn't run. I have already installed both Python and Active TCL in the same way on two other Macs and it has run just fine, so I don't know why it's not running on this one. Is there anything specific that would cause this to happen? Thanks, Ben -- components: IDLE messages: 188011 nosy: Bozdog priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: IDLE won't run type: crash versions: Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue17864] IDLE won't run
Ben Read added the comment: Hi there, I'm launching IDLE from Applications in Finder (double clicking the application file). I've tried doing this while Console is open and the response is: 28/04/2013 21:17:19.271 Dock[167]: no information back from LS about running process Thanks, Ben On 28 Apr 2013, at 20:04, Ned Deily wrote: > > Ned Deily added the comment: > > How are you trying to launch IDLE? Also, use the Console.app (in > /Applications/Utilites) to examine system.log to see if there are any error > messages produced there when you attempt to launch IDLE. > > -- > nosy: +ned.deily > > ___ > Python tracker > <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> > ___ -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue17864] IDLE won't run
Ben Read added the comment: In response to the first command: 3.3.1 (v3.3.1:d9893d13c628, Apr 6 2013, 11:07:11) [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] …and the second command: Warning: unable to create user config directory /Users/ben/.idlerc Check path and permissions. Exiting! I've checked console and activity monitor and cannot see any further reference to IDLE. The message I sent previously was the only one shown in 'All Messages' after a marker I added to know where to start from. I downloaded Python 3.31 from the official site and selected the 64bit version. I ran the ActiveTCL 8.5.13 download first. Thanks, Ben On 28 Apr 2013, at 21:59, Ned Deily wrote: > > Ned Deily added the comment: > > OK, assuming you are using a default install of Python 3.3.1, try opening a > terminal window (Terminal.app) and launching IDLE from there by typing: > > /usr/local/bin/python3.3 -c 'import sys;print(sys.version)' > /usr/local/bin/python3.3 -m idlelib > > and report what messages you see there. > > Also, are there any other messages with "com.apple.launchd.peruser" or > "org.python.IDLE" immediately before that one? You can use Console.app to > see if there are any relevant crash reports under User Diagnostic Reports. > You could use Activity Monitor.app to see if there is already an IDLE or > Python process running. If you can, try logging -out and -in and/or > rebooting. And which Python 3.3.1 did you install: from the python.org 3.3.1 > 64-bit/32-bit installer, from the python.org 3.3.1 32-bit-only installer, or > from somewhere else? > > -- > > ___ > Python tracker > <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> > ___ -- ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue17864] IDLE won't run
Ben Read added the comment:
I've tried this and it looks like write access is already enabled, but I
entered the commands you listed all the same - here's the output:
Bens-iMac:~ ben$ cd
Bens-iMac:~ ben$ ls -lde
drwxr-xr-x 28 temp staff 952 28 Apr 18:46 .
Bens-iMac:~ ben$ mkdir /.idlerc
mkdir: /.idlerc: Permission denied
Bens-iMac:~ ben$ chmod u+w
usage: chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-a | +a | =a [i][# [ n]]] mode|entry
file ...
chmod [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-E | -C | -N | -i | -I] file ...
Bens-iMac:~ ben$ mkdir /.idlerc
mkdir: /.idlerc: Permission denied
On 28 Apr 2013, at 23:43, Ned Deily wrote:
>
> Ned Deily added the comment:
>
> That's really odd. It looks you have a permissions problem with your home
> directory. On startup, IDLE attempts to create the directory .idlerc in your
> home directory, /Users/ben, if it doesn't exist already. If for some reason
> the directory creation fails, IDLE aborts. Interestingly, if the directory
> exists but IDLE lacks write permission to create files in it, it does not
> abort but posts a warning message in a window. Perhaps it could be a little
> more consistent about that. But still, this appears to be avery unusual
> situation. I can't think of any reason why IDLE would be unable to create a
> directory unless you have some security system installed or some unusual
> access control list setting. The most likely reason is just a plain old
> permission problem on your home directory. Try this in a terminal session:
>
> cd ~
> ls -lde ~
>
> You should see something similar to this:
> drwxr-xr-x+ 38 nad staff 2992 Apr 28 15:26 /Users/nad/
> 0: group:everyone deny delete
>
> if the permissions string is missing the "w" ("dr-xr-x"), that means you do
> not have write permission to your home directory and can't create new
> directories there. In that case,
>
> mkdir ~/.idlerc
>
> should fail. (This is essentially what IDLE is trying to do.)
>
> If you are missing write permission on your home directory, you *should* be
> able to fix it by doing:
>
> chmod u+w ~
>
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[issue17864] IDLE won't run
Ben Read added the comment: Good news - ran the sudo command, entered the password but I could still not make the directory, but I could within Finder - this time without a password. Tried the IDLE application again and it now works. Thank you once again for your help in resolving this. Regards, Ben Begin forwarded message: > From: Ben Read > Subject: Re: [issue17864] IDLE won't run > Date: 29 April 2013 22:12:03 BST > To: Python tracker > > Thank you for getting me this far - it's funny that Python has been the > program to make this problem apparent, but looking closer, there are other > issues such as not being able to create a new folder in the user folder > without entering username and password. > > I appreciate your help in diagnosing the problem. > > Ben > > > On 29 Apr 2013, at 10:37, Ned Deily wrote: > >> >> Ned Deily added the comment: >> >> The "ls" shows that, for some reason, your home directory is owned by user >> "temp", not by user "ben". That's not good. Try doing this: >> >> sudo chown ben /Users/ben/ >> >> But we're way past an IDLE or Python problem here. This is a basic Unix >> system administration issue. >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Python tracker >> <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> >> ___ > -- title: IDLE fails to launch when it cannot create .idlerc directory -> IDLE won't run ___ Python tracker <http://bugs.python.org/issue17864> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
