[python-committers] Fwd: [Python-checkins] r78923 - in python/branches/release26-maint: Doc/Makefile Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
I'm not necessarily saying these shouldn't go into 2.6.5, but this late in the 
release cycle, every change needs to be justified.  My preferred way of doing 
so is by filing a release blocker issue stating and backing up the requested 
change.  We can then discuss any potential impact on release testing and 
schedule.  I'm fine with one issue if all these commits to the release26-maint 
branch are for the same issue.

Georg, please file that bug so we can formally decide whether or not to include 
these in 2.6.5 final, and whether or not they require a 2.6.5 rc 3 (which as 
you know I really don't want to do! ;)

Thanks,
-Barry

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> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Python-checkins] r78923 - in python/branches/release26-maint: 
> Doc/Makefile Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html
> message-id: <[email protected]>
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> Author: georg.brandl
> Date: Sat Mar 13 14:42:13 2010
> New Revision: 78923
> 
> Log:
> Merged revisions 78921 via svnmerge from 
> svn+ssh://[email protected]/python/trunk
> 
> 
>  r78921 | georg.brandl | 2010-03-13 14:39:46 +0100 (Sa, 13 Mär 2010) | 1 line
> 
>  Change/fix handling of docs download location: for daily builds, put them 
> right next to the HTML.
> 
> 
> 
> Modified:
>   python/branches/release26-maint/   (props changed)
>   python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/Makefile
>   python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html
> 
> Modified: python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/Makefile
> ==
> --- python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/Makefile  (original)
> +++ python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/Makefile  Sat Mar 13 14:42:13 2010
> @@ -157,16 +157,17 @@
> check:
>   $(PYTHON) tools/rstlint.py -i tools
> 
> -# Targets for automatic doc build
> +# Targets for daily automated doc build
> 
> # for development releases: always build
> autobuild-dev:
>   make update
> - make dist
> + make dist SPHINXOPTS='-A daily=1'
> 
> -# for stable releases: only build if not in development mode
> +# for stable releases: only build if not in pre-release stage (alpha, beta, 
> rc)
> autobuild-stable:
>   @case $(DISTVERSION) in *[abc]*) \
> - echo "Not building; not a release version.";  exit 1;; \
> + echo "Not building; $(DISTVERSION) is not a release version."; \
> + exit 1;; \
>   esac
>   @make autobuild-dev
> 
> Modified: python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html
> ==
> --- python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html 
> (original)
> +++ python/branches/release26-maint/Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html Sat Mar 
> 13 14:42:13 2010
> @@ -1,15 +1,14 @@
> {% extends "layout.html" %}
> {% set title = 'Download' %}
> -{% set dlbase = 'http://docs.python.org/ftp/python/doc/current' %}
> -{% block body %}
> +{% if daily is defined %}
> +  {% set dlbase = pathto('archives', 1) %}
> +{% else %}
> +  {% set dlbase = 'http://docs.python.org/ftp/python/doc/' + release %}
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> Download Python {{ release }} Documentation
> 
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> -We don't package the documentation for development releases for download.
> -  Downloads will be available for the final release.
> -
> -{% else %}
> {% if last_updated %}Last updated on: {{ last_updated }}.{% 
> endif %}
> 
> To download an archive containing all the documents for this version of
> @@ -55,6 +54,4 @@
> 
> If you have comments or suggestions for the Python documentation, please 
> send
> email to mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected].
> -{% endif %}
> -
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Re: [python-committers] Fwd: [Python-checkins] r78923 - in python/branches/release26-maint: Doc/Makefile Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html

2010-03-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 13.03.2010 17:51, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
> I'm not necessarily saying these shouldn't go into 2.6.5, but this late in
> the release cycle, every change needs to be justified.  My preferred way of
> doing so is by filing a release blocker issue stating and backing up the
> requested change.  We can then discuss any potential impact on release
> testing and schedule.  I'm fine with one issue if all these commits to the
> release26-maint branch are for the same issue.

> Georg, please file that bug so we can formally decide whether or not to
> include these in 2.6.5 final, and whether or not they require a 2.6.5 rc 3
> (which as you know I really don't want to do! ;)

No need to file a new issue -- I've promoted 8111 to release blocker.
I've added an explanation and a collective diff.  No further RC is needed.

Sorry for directly committing this, but I felt it was within my disgression
as Documentation Expert and just fair -- after all PEP 101 states you have
to get my approval during the release process, which I didn't see for
these RCs :)

cheers,
Georg

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Re: [python-committers] Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2

2010-03-13 Thread Jesus Cea
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On 03/10/2010 05:42 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> All: The release26-maint branch is now semi-thawed.  I'm going to be even more
> strict about commits to the branch now because I really don't want to release
> an rc3 unless absolutely necessary.  2.6.5 final is scheduled for 2010-03-19.

I was wondering about http://bugs.python.org/issue3928 . It is a trivial
fix a couple of lines long only.

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Re: [python-committers] Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2

2010-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:42:33 +0100,
Jesus Cea  a écrit :
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> I was wondering about http://bugs.python.org/issue3928 . It is a
> trivial fix a couple of lines long only.

We have lots of "trivial" fixes in the tracker, though.

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Re: [python-committers] Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2

2010-03-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> Le Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:42:33 +0100,
> Jesus Cea  a écrit :
>> I was wondering about http://bugs.python.org/issue3928 . It is a
>> trivial fix a couple of lines long only.
> 
> We have lots of "trivial" fixes in the tracker, though.

It's not a regression from 2.6.4, so it's clearly out of scope for
2.6.5, IMO.

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Re: [python-committers] Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 13, 2010, at 08:42 PM, Jesus Cea wrote:

>I was wondering about http://bugs.python.org/issue3928 . It is a trivial
>fix a couple of lines long only.

These can be addressed for 2.6.6.

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Re: [python-committers] Fwd: [Python-checkins] r78923 - in python/branches/release26-maint: Doc/Makefile Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html

2010-03-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mar 13, 2010, at 07:11 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:

>No need to file a new issue -- I've promoted 8111 to release blocker.
>I've added an explanation and a collective diff.  No further RC is needed.

Thanks; I've accepted and closed the issue.

>Sorry for directly committing this, but I felt it was within my disgression
>as Documentation Expert and just fair -- after all PEP 101 states you have
>to get my approval during the release process, which I didn't see for
>these RCs :)

This is true. :)  I really appreciate the fix, and you're definitely right
that it's your discretion to make these commits.  I'm just being overly
paranoid during rc2->final because I'm really hoping to avoid an rc3.  For me,
your bug report was perfect because it explained what and why you were doing
it, and that you're confident an rc3 isn't needed.  But I want to make sure
that you're cool with the process, so let me know if you think I went too far.

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[python-committers] Is 3.1 open? (was: Re: Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2)

2010-03-13 Thread Jesus Cea
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On 03/13/2010 11:25 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 08:42 PM, Jesus Cea wrote:
> 
>> I was wondering about http://bugs.python.org/issue3928 . It is a trivial
>> fix a couple of lines long only.
> 
> These can be addressed for 2.6.6.

Your word is my command, Barry.

What about 3.1.3, Benjamin?. I guess it is too late for 3.1.2, since the
rc is out. I saw your message asking for stopping commits the 6th march,
but I haven't seen another message opening the gates again...

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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open? (was: Re: Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2)

2010-03-13 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/3/13 Jesus Cea :
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> On 03/13/2010 11:25 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 08:42 PM, Jesus Cea wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering about http://bugs.python.org/issue3928 . It is a trivial
>>> fix a couple of lines long only.
>>
>> These can be addressed for 2.6.6.
>
> Your word is my command, Barry.
>
> What about 3.1.3, Benjamin?. I guess it is too late for 3.1.2, since the
> rc is out. I saw your message asking for stopping commits the 6th march,
> but I haven't seen another message opening the gates again...

As Martin pointed out, I don't think this patch is acceptable for a
bug fix release.



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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open? (was: Re: Fw: [Python-checkins] r78823 - python/tags/r265rc2)

2010-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:19:39 -0600,
Benjamin Peterson  a écrit :
> >
> > What about 3.1.3, Benjamin?. I guess it is too late for 3.1.2,
> > since the rc is out. I saw your message asking for stopping commits
> > the 6th march, but I haven't seen another message opening the gates
> > again...
> 
> As Martin pointed out, I don't think this patch is acceptable for a
> bug fix release.

I would say the patch is acceptable for a bugfix release, just not one
in release candidate status.

Regards

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Re: [python-committers] Fwd: [Python-checkins] r78923 - in python/branches/release26-maint: Doc/Makefile Doc/tools/sphinxext/download.html

2010-03-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 14.03.2010 00:08, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 07:11 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> 
>>No need to file a new issue -- I've promoted 8111 to release blocker.
>>I've added an explanation and a collective diff.  No further RC is needed.
> 
> Thanks; I've accepted and closed the issue.
> 
>>Sorry for directly committing this, but I felt it was within my disgression
>>as Documentation Expert and just fair -- after all PEP 101 states you have
>>to get my approval during the release process, which I didn't see for
>>these RCs :)
> 
> This is true. :)  I really appreciate the fix, and you're definitely right
> that it's your discretion to make these commits.  I'm just being overly
> paranoid during rc2->final because I'm really hoping to avoid an rc3.  For me,
> your bug report was perfect because it explained what and why you were doing
> it, and that you're confident an rc3 isn't needed.  But I want to make sure
> that you're cool with the process, so let me know if you think I went too far.

No, I don't -- I quite understand that you want to know what's going on in
"your" branch so close to the final, and I should have known that.  I'll be
in the same position soon for 3.2.  So, thanks for bringing it up.

cheers,
Georg


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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open?

2010-03-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
>>> What about 3.1.3, Benjamin?. I guess it is too late for 3.1.2,
>>> since the rc is out. I saw your message asking for stopping commits
>>> the 6th march, but I haven't seen another message opening the gates
>>> again...
>> As Martin pointed out, I don't think this patch is acceptable for a
>> bug fix release.
> 
> I would say the patch is acceptable for a bugfix release, just not one
> in release candidate status.

That's what I meant as well.

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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open?

2010-03-13 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/3/13 "Martin v. Löwis" :
 What about 3.1.3, Benjamin?. I guess it is too late for 3.1.2,
 since the rc is out. I saw your message asking for stopping commits
 the 6th march, but I haven't seen another message opening the gates
 again...
>>> As Martin pointed out, I don't think this patch is acceptable for a
>>> bug fix release.
>>
>> I would say the patch is acceptable for a bugfix release, just not one
>> in release candidate status.
>
> That's what I meant as well.

Very well then, let's wait for 3.1.3.



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[python-committers] Frozen branches in Hg

2010-03-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 14.03.2010 00:35, schrieb Georg Brandl:
> Am 14.03.2010 00:08, schrieb Barry Warsaw:
>> On Mar 13, 2010, at 07:11 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>> 
>>>No need to file a new issue -- I've promoted 8111 to release blocker.
>>>I've added an explanation and a collective diff.  No further RC is needed.
>> 
>> Thanks; I've accepted and closed the issue.
>> 
>>>Sorry for directly committing this, but I felt it was within my disgression
>>>as Documentation Expert and just fair -- after all PEP 101 states you have
>>>to get my approval during the release process, which I didn't see for
>>>these RCs :)
>> 
>> This is true. :)  I really appreciate the fix, and you're definitely right
>> that it's your discretion to make these commits.  I'm just being overly
>> paranoid during rc2->final because I'm really hoping to avoid an rc3.  For 
>> me,
>> your bug report was perfect because it explained what and why you were doing
>> it, and that you're confident an rc3 isn't needed.  But I want to make sure
>> that you're cool with the process, so let me know if you think I went too 
>> far.
> 
> No, I don't -- I quite understand that you want to know what's going on in
> "your" branch so close to the final, and I should have known that.  I'll be
> in the same position soon for 3.2.  So, thanks for bringing it up.

Thinking of that a bit more: after the Hg transition, shouldn't we be able to
really freeze a branch that is in pre-release approval-needed mode?  It is
trivial for anyone to commit a fix to their own branch, and then instead of
pushing they'd have to notify the release manager to pull from them, as the
only person who can push to the frozen branch.

Dirkjan, is that feasible?

Georg

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Re: [python-committers] Frozen branches in Hg

2010-03-13 Thread Martin v. Löwis
> Thinking of that a bit more: after the Hg transition, shouldn't we be able to
> really freeze a branch that is in pre-release approval-needed mode?  It is
> trivial for anyone to commit a fix to their own branch, and then instead of
> pushing they'd have to notify the release manager to pull from them, as the
> only person who can push to the frozen branch.

FWIW, it would be possible to freeze a branch also in subversion, today.

As for pulling from committer branches: that would require that
committers host their branches somewhere.

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Re: [python-committers] Frozen branches in Hg

2010-03-13 Thread Georg Brandl
Am 14.03.2010 00:53, schrieb "Martin v. Löwis":
>> Thinking of that a bit more: after the Hg transition, shouldn't we be able to
>> really freeze a branch that is in pre-release approval-needed mode?  It is
>> trivial for anyone to commit a fix to their own branch, and then instead of
>> pushing they'd have to notify the release manager to pull from them, as the
>> only person who can push to the frozen branch.
> 
> FWIW, it would be possible to freeze a branch also in subversion, today.

Yes, but I'm sure we don't want to bother setting that up so close to the
switch :)

> As for pulling from committer branches: that would require that
> committers host their branches somewhere.

Yes.  But that's no big deal, isn't it?  They can use a public hg hoster
like bitbucket, or we can have a facility on hg.python.org -- it doesn't
really matter where, it is always very easy to publish a hg branch.

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Re: [python-committers] Frozen branches in Hg

2010-03-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:03:00 +0100,
Georg Brandl  a écrit :
> 
> > As for pulling from committer branches: that would require that
> > committers host their branches somewhere.
> 
> Yes.  But that's no big deal, isn't it?  They can use a public hg
> hoster like bitbucket, or we can have a facility on hg.python.org --
> it doesn't really matter where, it is always very easy to publish a
> hg branch.

Or people can just use "hg out" or "hg export".

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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open?

2010-03-13 Thread Jesus Cea
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On 03/14/2010 12:40 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> 2010/3/13 "Martin v. Löwis" :
> What about 3.1.3, Benjamin?. I guess it is too late for 3.1.2,
> since the rc is out. I saw your message asking for stopping commits
> the 6th march, but I haven't seen another message opening the gates
> again...
 As Martin pointed out, I don't think this patch is acceptable for a
 bug fix release.
>>>
>>> I would say the patch is acceptable for a bugfix release, just not one
>>> in release candidate status.
>>
>> That's what I meant as well.
> 
> Very well then, let's wait for 3.1.3.

That was what I was asking.

I will commit the patch to trunk and py3k, and to 2.6 and 3.1 branch
after 2.6.5 and 3.1.2 are out.

Should I commit now to trunk/py3k and later to 2.6/3.1, or wait to do
the four commits at the same time?. Don't want to miss the 2.7beta.

Mercurial, where are you?. This would be a non issue :)

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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open?

2010-03-13 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/3/13 Jesus Cea :
> I will commit the patch to trunk and py3k, and to 2.6 and 3.1 branch
> after 2.6.5 and 3.1.2 are out.
>
> Should I commit now to trunk/py3k and later to 2.6/3.1, or wait to do
> the four commits at the same time?. Don't want to miss the 2.7beta.

That's up to you.

>
> Mercurial, where are you?. This would be a non issue :)

How so?



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Re: [python-committers] Is 3.1 open?

2010-03-13 Thread Jesus Cea
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On 03/14/2010 03:35 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
>> Mercurial, where are you?. This would be a non issue :)
> 
> How so?

The release manager could clone the repository to getting it ready for
release, while the main repository accepts new changesets. The point
would be not stopping commits, ever.

When done, the release manager could tag the release in his/her clone
and push the changes to the main branch, like any other commit.

If the release manager needs some patches for the main repository,
he/she can cherrypick them manually or using a tool like
http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/TransplantExtension .

The devil is in the details, like how the release manager repository
clone accesses buildbots, for instance.

This is possible workflow. I don't know what is the actual plan, yet.

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