[python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-24 Thread Mariatta Wijaya
It is now 7 days until October 1, the deadline for coming up with Python
Governance PEPs.

Some still relevant links:

- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8000/ Python Language Governance
Proposal Overview
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001 Python Governance Voting Process
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8002 Open source governance survey

These are current ideas and proposals, some are placeholders still.

- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010 The BDFL Governance Model
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011 The Council Governance Model
(I'm claiming this PEP)
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012 The Community Governance Model
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/ The External Council Governance
Model
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/ The Commons Governance Model

I have some questions:

1. Is everyone still ok with the Oct 1 as deadline for coming up with
governance PEPs?

2. How do we discuss these PEPs?

3. At the sprint, there's a small workgroup formed for coming up with the
procedure to vote. How is that coming? Could someone please write up a
brief summary? (perhaps as a separate email thread) I think it would be
great to have this written up soon, before Oct 1.

Thanks.


Mariatta
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Re: [python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-24 Thread Brett Cannon
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 11:32, Mariatta Wijaya 
wrote:

> It is now 7 days until October 1, the deadline for coming up with Python
> Governance PEPs.
>
> Some still relevant links:
>
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8000/ Python Language Governance
> Proposal Overview
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001 Python Governance Voting
> Process
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8002 Open source governance survey
>
> These are current ideas and proposals, some are placeholders still.
>
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010 The BDFL Governance Model
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011 The Council Governance Model
> (I'm claiming this PEP)
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012 The Community Governance Model
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/ The External Council
> Governance Model
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/ The Commons Governance Model
>
> I have some questions:
>
> 1. Is everyone still ok with the Oct 1 as deadline for coming up with
> governance PEPs?
>
> 2. How do we discuss these PEPs?
>

I assume people will start threads about their PEPs to discuss them here
(I'm also personally fine with discussing on Zulip, but I don't know how
others feels about that). The one thing I would say is I would propose all
discussion threads have a subject line that clearly denotes which PEP is
being discussed to help keep it straight (e.g. "[PEP 8011] ..."). That way
it's easy to keep the threads straight.


>
> 3. At the sprint, there's a small workgroup formed for coming up with the
> procedure to vote. How is that coming? Could someone please write up a
> brief summary? (perhaps as a separate email thread) I think it would be
> great to have this written up soon, before Oct 1.
>

Raymond agreed to write up the approach we all agreed upon in our little
breakout group as a draft PEP so they can be presented here to make sure
people overall are happy with the ideas we reached consensus on. I'm not
sure what his ETA is on that, but we were tentatively aiming for the last
half of November for a vote so there isn't a hard deadline to have it
posted and agreed to necessarily within the week (although obviously we
would want to make sure people have plenty of notice of when the voting
will occur so people aren't taken by surprise).
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Re: [python-committers] 1 week to Oct 1

2018-09-24 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Le 24/09/2018 à 20:32, Mariatta Wijaya a écrit :
> It is now 7 days until October 1, the deadline for coming up with Python
> Governance PEPs.
> 
> Some still relevant links:
> 
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8000/ Python Language Governance
> Proposal Overview
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8001 Python Governance Voting Process
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8002 Open source governance survey
> 
> These are current ideas and proposals, some are placeholders still.
> 
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8010 The BDFL Governance Model
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8011 The Council Governance Model
> (I'm claiming this PEP)
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8012 The Community Governance Model
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8013/ The External Council
> Governance Model
> - https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-8014/ The Commons Governance Model
> 
> I have some questions:
> 
> 1. Is everyone still ok with the Oct 1 as deadline for coming up with
> governance PEPs?

As I predicted, Oct 1 seems to be coming up too early.

Regards

Antoine.
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