[python-committers] Re: Commits are no longer noted in bro issues

[Irit Katriel via python-committers]

I'm not getting emails about updates to bpo issues I'm nosying anymore.

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 11:33 PM Zachary Ware  wrote:

> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:58 PM Victor Stinner 
> wrote:
> >
> > Any update on this issue? Nobody recalls what code and service sends a
> > comment to bugs.python.org when a commit is merged?
>
> I might have found it; I at least opened
> https://github.com/psf/bpo-roundup/pull/1 against what I found :)
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[python-committers] Re: Commits are no longer noted in bro issues

[Irit Katriel via python-committers]

I'm not getting anything at all from bpo for about a week now. Maybe it had
enough of me.

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 6:01 PM Victor Stinner  wrote:

> I confirm that commits merged in 3.9, 3.10 and main branches are
> logged again in bugs.python.org. Thanks to everyone who helped to
> solve this issue!
>
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[python-committers] Re: Commits are no longer noted in bro issues

[Irit Katriel via python-committers]

My spam folder contains solutions to most of life's problems, but nothing
about python. I'll check with the infra team, thanks.

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:11 PM Berker Peksağ 
wrote:

> On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 9:50 PM Guido van Rossum  wrote:
> >
> > Did you check your junk or spam mail folders? The email address from
> which bpo is sending email is not super trusted by the spam filters used by
> large email providers like GMail and Outlook.
>
> Unfortunately, this is not just the case for BPO emails. I've even
> found emails sent by core developers and PSF staff in my spam folder.
> Perhaps email providers don't like the high traffic created from
> @python.org emails :)
>
> --Berker
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[python-committers] status of smtpd

[Irit Katriel via python-committers]

The documentation for smtpd (https://docs.python.org/3/library/smtpd.html)
states that " smtpd
 should be
considered deprecated" and recommends  aiosmtpd
.

Are we planning to remove it from the stdlib? Note that at the moment the
smtpd module doesn't emit deprecation warnings, and aiosmtpd is not part of
the stdlib.

This came up on https://bugs.python.org/issue28533, where we were hoping to
be able to move the (properly) deprecated asyncore and asynhat to
test.support (because there are still a few tests that use them). It seems
that smtpd is that last blocker for that.
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[python-committers] Re: status of smtpd

[Irit Katriel via python-committers]

I've created https://bugs.python.org/issue44498, so we can continue the
discussion there.

Once we remove the libraries, we could create a list of all open issues,
put this list in another issue, link to it from what's new and then close
all issues (including the one with the list). This way the known bugs will
not be lost in case someone wants to maintain the code outside the stdlib.


On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:14 AM Victor Stinner  wrote:

> Hi Irit,
>
> Since it's documented as deprecated, asyncore and asynchat are
> deprecated as well since Python 3.6 (smtpd uses asynchat), I suggest
> to remove these 3 modules right now. I would prefer to make such
> incompatible change early in the development cycle, to give more time
> to users to adapt their projects.
>
> We should explain to users how to handle this incompatible change in
> What's New in Python 3.11. IMO suggesting to copy the required modules
> into their project is an acceptable trade-off.
>
> Victor
>
>
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[python-committers] Re: status of smtpd

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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 1:58 PM Joannah Nanjekye 
wrote:

> Am not against removing dead batteries but Am still very skeptical and
> disturbed about how the
> decision to remove modules is made.i.e what goes and what remains?
>
> For example, in the discussion section of PEP 594 , individuals kept
> asking for some modules to remain and IIUC,
> it's in the decision of the PEP to keep those modules on those grounds
> that some people requested for those modules to remain.
>
> For example, I now wonder how Andrew is different from those people?
>

asynchat and asyncore are deprecated since 3.6. Doesn't this mean that the
decision to remove them was already taken?
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