Hi all, as a moderator of python-ideas, I’ve asked postmaster to place python-ideas into emergency moderation. (I do not have the tools to do so myself.) I’m willing to review messages individually as needed.
best, —titus > On Jun 29, 2020, at 9:24 AM, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <arj.pyt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Threads like these are meaningless, does not provide any learning > value and is nowhere near the single vs double quote thread. > > It opens the gap for people who are not concerned about development > jump in the game shifting the focus away while nurturing a culture of thrash > I mean you tend to ignore threads from python-dev and python-ideas which > is not probably why you subscribed in the first place > > This is not the first time i am saying that you can fly around the world on > official > Python mailing lists. But it's regrettable that it's the first time i am > seeing people > telling that they should educate others and things like that. It can be based > on the > argument and circle around it but personal attacks are off limit > > If this was a Github issue, i don't think you list moderators would have > dragged it > around that much. Worst case scenario, someone would have been pinged and > the issue taken care of. A PR or closing and you are done. > > I raised the issue of closing a mail thread before and the impractical nature > of > it was discussed but maybe warnings and continued posting after the warning > results in ban can be enforced > > And it's annoying that it got dragged to two mailing lists. I respect Python > people > and i am always eager to follow some C code discussions, deprecating this C > API > etc. It's a new world for me. > > Maybe active list members should sign a convention or a vetting process can > be setup > before we can discuss it on the lists. Not ideal but might be useful. > > Kind Regards, > > Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer > compileralchemy | blog > github > Mauritius > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:11 PM David Mertz <me...@gnosis.cx> wrote: > The commit message is simply silly. It introduces numerous contentious and > false claims that have nothing whatsoever to do with the small wording > change. It misunderstands how language, culture, history, and indeed white > supremacism, work. > > I would recommend amending the commit message. > > The underlying change itself is reasonable, and to my mind a small > improvement. There was unnecessary specificity in using Strunk and White as > reference, and not, say, William Zinsser's _On Writing Well_, which is almost > as well known. In the concrete, it would be exceedingly rare for these to > provide conflicting advice on a specific code comment. > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 7:34 AM Richard Damon <rich...@damon-family.org> > wrote: > On 6/29/20 6:22 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > > and describes the > > old text as a "relic", which is another way of saying that the > > problems were only there by historical accident, rather than by anyone > > intentionally keeping it there. > > I would say that say that I have seen the term "relic" being used as a > 'weaponized' word to imply that the old thing WAS there intentionally as > a repressive measure. I am not saying that this usage was intended to be > used that way, but just as the old wording was taken as offensive to > some due to implication, I can see that message as offensive to others > due to implication, all because some people are easy to offend. > > -- > Richard Damon > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/6EN5RNF5CFDKCF3ZYQV53XH5KTBCSAQ6/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > > > -- > The dead increasingly dominate and strangle both the living and the > not-yet born. Vampiric capital and undead corporate persons abuse > the lives and control the thoughts of homo faber. Ideas, once born, > become abortifacients against new conceptions. > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/AMH7WMUOOZ4KAFYPVZO2BA5AQLWTCDR6/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/B426T6LT3TAFJHDNWBBAEWPTZKAFEM2K/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/I477YY2YAMRF73OY6AYOMKI5YEIDFHYO/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
