Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)

2010-05-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 05, 2010, at 11:35 AM, James Y Knight wrote:

>And of course if you're paying attention, you can fix the mbox file  
>(quoting "From" etc) such that it generates the same numbers as it did  
>the first time.

Mailman even has a command for this (I feel like an Apple commercial).  You
should check things though because it's based on heuristics that can sometimes
be fooled.

-Barry


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Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)

2010-05-05 Thread James Y Knight


On May 5, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:


On May 5, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:


On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:43:45AM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2000-July/108893.html

which are broken


 Pipermail's links aren't stable AFAIU. The numbering is changing  
over

time.


They're only unstable if you regenerate the archives and the mbox  
file is old enough to have been a victim of a long-fixed delimiter  
bug.  Which is true for python-dev.


And of course if you're paying attention, you can fix the mbox file  
(quoting "From" etc) such that it generates the same numbers as it did  
the first time.


James
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Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)

2010-05-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 5, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:

> On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:43:45AM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2000-July/108893.html
>> 
>> which are broken
> 
>   Pipermail's links aren't stable AFAIU. The numbering is changing over
> time.

They're only unstable if you regenerate the archives and the mbox file is old 
enough to have been a victim of a long-fixed delimiter bug.  Which is true for 
python-dev.

-Barry

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Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)

2010-05-05 Thread Nick Coghlan
Oleg Broytman wrote:
> On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:43:45AM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2000-July/108893.html
>>
>> which are broken
> 
>Pipermail's links aren't stable AFAIU. The numbering is changing over
> time.

I don't think that's true in general. I do recall the archive getting
FUBARed a few months back, and one of the consequences of fixing it was
that some old messages were renumbered (since the whole archive
basically had to be reindexed or something like that).

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)

2010-05-05 Thread Oleg Broytman
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:43:45AM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2000-July/108893.html
>
> which are broken

   Pipermail's links aren't stable AFAIU. The numbering is changing over
time.

Oleg.
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[Python-Dev] Fwd: broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)

2010-05-05 Thread Michael Foord

Hello all,

It looks like the changes to the python-dev mailman archives broke some 
of the links in PEPs.


All the best,

Michael Foord

 Original Message 
Subject:broken mailing list links in PEP(s?)
Date:   Tue, 4 May 2010 20:22:57 -0700
From:   Bayle Shanks 
To: webmas...@python.org



On http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0225/ , in the section "Credits
and archives", there are a bunch of links like



http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2000-July/108893.html


which are broken


thanks,
  bayle

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