Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: survey about the use of agile practices
Guido van Rossum wrote: Even apart from the website that Samuele found, the content sounded genuine. Just not something I feel like dealing with (too many surveys). from what I can tell, it was blasted to everyone with a sourceforge account, which indicates that they're don't really care what projects or persons they get information from. even if it's a genuine survey, it's crap science. /F ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: survey about the use of agile practices
Fredrik Lundh wrote: Guido van Rossum wrote: Even apart from the website that Samuele found, the content sounded genuine. Just not something I feel like dealing with (too many surveys). from what I can tell, it was blasted to everyone with a sourceforge account, which indicates that they're don't really care what projects or persons they get information from. even if it's a genuine survey, it's crap science. I was going to respond to the survey (I try to help out that kind of research when I can), but far too many of my responses would have been of the it depends on what you mean by term X variety (e.g. what's the dividing line between a unit test and an acceptance test? Does the fact that essentially all Python developers are also Python users count as users being involved in project management? Is refactoring still explicit when you're doing it specifically to make something else you want to do easier?). The biggest single flaw I found is that the survey assumes the reader is familiar with the Agile Manifesto's particular brand of KoolAid, without providing any context or links to additional information. Given the flaws in the survey itself, I don't see how anything meaningful could be extracted from the responses (and collating emailed survey responses manually is going to be one heckuva task). Cheers, Nick. P.S. tinfoil hat The *real* title of the thesis: An Investigation into the Response of Open Source Developers to Flawed Research Surveys /tinfoil hat }; -- Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia --- http://www.boredomandlaziness.org ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] Fwd: survey about the use of agile practices
Anyone? -- Forwarded message -- From: Selene Uras [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 24, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: survey about the use of agile practices To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear project manager/developer I am conducting at the University of Cagliari, under the supervision of prof. Michele Marchesi, a survey about the use of agile practices in open source successful projects. I would really appreciate if you can devote 5 mins. of your time, answering the following questionnaire directly in the Reply mail to me. Thanking in advance, Selene Uras 1. Project management: - Do you use fixed (time-boxed) iterations? Y/N How many days do they last? ___ - Do you plan development by gathering a list of features, and then assign them to an iteration? Y/N Since when? Since the start of the project / Since ___ years. - Are users actively involved in requirements gathering and in project management? Y/N 2. Testing: - Has the project an automatic unit test suite? Y/N Which one? ___ - If Yes, what is the percentage of code covered by tests? ___ % - Do you use automatic acceptance tests? Y/N - Since when have you been using automatic tests? Since the start of the project / Since ___ years. 3. Refactoring: - Do you practice explicit code refactoring? Y/N - What is the percentage of developing effort for refactoring? ___% - Since when have you been using refactoring? Since the start of the project / Since ___ years. 4. Integration and releases: - How long does it take to produce the executable code starting from source code? - Do you have a working version of the code, which is often updated by developers who add their code and run tests? Y/N 5. General: - Can you mention some other agile practices you are using in the project? For each of them, since when has it been used? - Practice: __ Used since: __ - Practice: __ Used since: __ - -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: survey about the use of agile practices
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Anyone? It was discarded as probable spam by me due to the lack of a valid To: line. Do you have any particular reason for believing that it's real? -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ I support family values -- Addams family values --www.nancybuttons.com ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: survey about the use of agile practices
Aahz wrote: On Sun, Dec 24, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Anyone? It was discarded as probable spam by me due to the lack of a valid To: line. Do you have any particular reason for believing that it's real? http://agile.diee.unica.it/uras.html (it's in italian) seems to make this credible. FWIW. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: survey about the use of agile practices
On 12/24/06, Aahz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 24, 2006, Guido van Rossum wrote: Anyone? It was discarded as probable spam by me due to the lack of a valid To: line. Do you have any particular reason for believing that it's real? Even apart from the website that Samuele found, the content sounded genuine. Just not something I feel like dealing with (too many surveys). -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
