Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7)
anatoly techtonik wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Anatoly, I am now answering only in Distutils-SIG. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Seems like I start to hate mailing lists even more with all this message duplication and thread following nightmare. Why can't people here create a Google Groups mirror? I would surmise that most people on python-dev do what I do and subscribe to an NNTP (Usenet news) source. In my case Thunderbird does a great job of presenting the content, though there is no thread subscription. Google Groups have their disadvantages too. I personally dislike web forum style interfaces. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 See PyCon Talks from Atlanta 2010 http://pycon.blip.tv/ Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ UPCOMING EVENTS:http://holdenweb.eventbrite.com/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7)
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Anatoly, I am now answering only in Distutils-SIG. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM, anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com wrote: [..] Seems like I start to hate mailing lists even more with all this message duplication and thread following nightmare. Why can't people here create a Google Groups mirror? -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap s cript for package management tool in Python 2.7)
anatoly techtonik techtonik at gmail.com writes: Seems like I start to hate mailing lists even more with all this message duplication and thread following nightmare. Why can't people here create a Google Groups mirror? There are already gmane mirrors, such as: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7)
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: anatoly techtonik techtonik at gmail.com writes: Seems like I start to hate mailing lists even more with all this message duplication and thread following nightmare. Why can't people here create a Google Groups mirror? There are already gmane mirrors, such as: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel Do you use it yourself for thread subscription? My point is that gmane mouse clicking interface is insane. They can not fold quotations. And if you'll look attentively you won't find most of messages from ongoing discussion about bootstrap script for package management. -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7)
There are already gmane mirrors, such as: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel Do you use it yourself for thread subscription? I don't think there's any thread subscription, if you mean subscribing to individual threads. My point is that gmane mouse clicking interface is insane. They can not fold quotations. Neither can some e-mail clients. It's up to posters to quote (that is, strip quotes) properly. Gmane also allows you to use NNTP, though, perhaps you can find an NNTP client which has the desired quoting UI :) And if you'll look attentively you won't find most of messages from ongoing discussion about bootstrap script for package management. Yes, gmane seems to have some strange duplicate suppression algorithm which doesn't go well with cross-posting. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups mirror (Was: Bootstrap script for package management tool in Python 2.7)
anatoly Why can't people here create a Google Groups mirror? Whoever people here are could, I suppose. I wouldn't mind a read-only mirror but would not be a fan of a two-way mirror because Google seems to do an awful job of weeding out spam. In any case, the correct place to submit such a request would be postmas...@python.org. Skip ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Barry Warsaw ba...@python.org wrote: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? Recently I needed to find old thread about adding tags to roundup but couldn't. GMane archive doesn't search - http://news.gmane.org/navbar.php?group=gmane.comp.python.develquery=roundup+tags and Google Group archive is private http://groups.google.com/group/python-dev How about opening an official read-only Google Group mirror? Then it will be possible to subscribe to notifications to just interesting threads. Try mail-archive.com, it's searchable. http://www.mail-archive.com/python-dev@python.org/ Thanks. Still an official search form will be welcomed as well as per-thread subscriptions, and not only for python-dev. Crossposted to postmas...@python.org -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? Recently I needed to find old thread about adding tags to roundup but couldn't. GMane archive doesn't search - http://news.gmane.org/navbar.php?group=gmane.comp.python.develquery=roundup+tags and Google Group archive is private http://groups.google.com/group/python-dev How about opening an official read-only Google Group mirror? Then it will be possible to subscribe to notifications to just interesting threads. -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? It is: Google some interesting python thing site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? It is: Google some interesting python thing site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev Doesn't work. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev+roundup+tags Seems that mailman in your query is not needed. This search is definitely not simple to use. How about to add Google search form to http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev ? -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? It is: Google some interesting python thing site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev Doesn't work. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev+roundup+tags But http://www.google.com/search?q=roundup+tags+site%3Amail.python.org%2Fpipermail%2Fpython-dev does. -- Regards, Benjamin ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? It is: Google some interesting python thing site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev Doesn't work. http://www.google.com/search?q=site:mail.python.org/mailman/pipermail/python-dev+roundup+tags But http://www.google.com/search?q=roundup+tags+site%3Amail.python.org%2Fpipermail%2Fpython-dev does. Yep. Just like I said. So, how about to add Google search form to http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev ? -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: 2010/2/14 anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com: Yep. Just like I said. So, how about to add Google search form to http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev ? You'll have to talk to postmas...@python.org about that. Crossposted. And what about per-thread subscription that comes with Google Groups? I do not need it, because I am subscribed, but if that could be possible - I'd unsubscribe to read it from web receiving notification only about interesting topics. Who owns http://groups.google.com/group/python-dev ? -- anatoly t. ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com writes: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? Recently I needed to find old thread about adding tags to roundup but couldn't. GMane archive doesn't search - http://news.gmane.org/navbar.php?group=gmane.comp.python.develquery=roundup+tags This is where your search should go: http://search.gmane.org/?query=roundup+tagsgroup=gmane.comp.python.devel I got the page when searching from http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel I don't know why the search box at the bottom of http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel fails... -- Martin Geisler VIFF (Virtual Ideal Functionality Framework) brings easy and efficient SMPC (Secure Multiparty Computation) to Python. See: http://viff.dk/. pgpepIKXk53zy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Python-Dev] Google Groups Mirror
On Feb 14, 2010, at 1:31 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: What is the point in maintaining archive listed in http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev if it is not searchable? Recently I needed to find old thread about adding tags to roundup but couldn't. GMane archive doesn't search - http://news.gmane.org/navbar.php?group=gmane.comp.python.develquery=roundup+tags and Google Group archive is private http://groups.google.com/group/python-dev How about opening an official read-only Google Group mirror? Then it will be possible to subscribe to notifications to just interesting threads. Try mail-archive.com, it's searchable. http://www.mail-archive.com/python-dev@python.org/ -Barry ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
