Re: [Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-21 Thread Vinay Sajip
Barry Warsaw barry at python.org writes:

 WTF?  I think the archives were recently regenerated, so there's probably a
 fubar there.  CC'ing the postmasters.
 

Is someone still working on this? I see no updates coming in to the Python-dev
archive on mail.python.org, though I do see them on Gmane (for example, the PEP
3146 thread from yesterday).

Regards,

Vinay Sajip

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[Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-19 Thread Vinay Sajip
Hi,

When I look at the mailing list archive for python-dev, I see some odd stuff at
the bottom of the page:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-January/thread.html#95232

Anyone know what's happened?

Regards,

Vinay Sajip

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Re: [Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2010, at 03:50 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote:

When I look at the mailing list archive for python-dev, I see some odd stuff at
the bottom of the page:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-January/thread.html#95232

Anyone know what's happened?

WTF?  I think the archives were recently regenerated, so there's probably a
fubar there.  CC'ing the postmasters.

-Barry


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Re: [Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-19 Thread James Y Knight


On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:


On Jan 19, 2010, at 03:50 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote:

When I look at the mailing list archive for python-dev, I see some  
odd stuff at

the bottom of the page:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-January/thread.html#95232

Anyone know what's happened?


WTF?  I think the archives were recently regenerated, so there's  
probably a

fubar there.  CC'ing the postmasters.


That happens if messages had unescaped From lines in the middle of  
them.


No doubt, you've now broken every link anyone had ever made into the  
python-dev archives, because now all the article numbers are  
different. BTDT...unfortunately... Pipermail really is quite crappy,  
sigh.


Anyhow, when I did that, I went back to a backup to get the original  
article numbers, and edited the mbox file escaping From lines or  
adding additional empty messages until the newly regenerated article  
numbers matched the originals. I'd highly recommend going through that  
painful process, since I suspect a *lot* of people have links to the  
python-dev archive. Hope you have a backup (or can find caches on  
google or archive.org or something).


James
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Re: [Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:24 AM, James Y Knight wrote:

No doubt, you've now broken every link anyone had ever made into the  
python-dev archives, because now all the article numbers are  
different. BTDT...unfortunately... Pipermail really is quite crappy,  
sigh.

I've been trying for 10+ years to get folks interested in helping me fix this
(and a few other warts) in Pipermail, to not much success. ;/

Anyhow, when I did that, I went back to a backup to get the original  
article numbers, and edited the mbox file escaping From lines or  
adding additional empty messages until the newly regenerated article  
numbers matched the originals. I'd highly recommend going through that  
painful process, since I suspect a *lot* of people have links to the  
python-dev archive. Hope you have a backup (or can find caches on  
google or archive.org or something).

bin/cleanarch uses a set of heuristics to find unescaped From lines and fix
them.  It's generally pretty good, but it certain can change message numbers
(and sadly, their urls).

-Barry


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Re: [Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-19 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:24:57 -0500, James Y Knight f...@fuhm.net wrote:
 
 On Jan 19, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 
  On Jan 19, 2010, at 03:50 PM, Vinay Sajip wrote:
 
  When I look at the mailing list archive for python-dev, I see some  
  odd stuff at the bottom of the page:
 
  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-January/thread.html#95232
 
  Anyone know what's happened?
 
  WTF?  I think the archives were recently regenerated, so there's  
  probably a fubar there.  CC'ing the postmasters.
 
 That happens if messages had unescaped From lines in the middle of  
 them.
 
 No doubt, you've now broken every link anyone had ever made into the  
 python-dev archives, because now all the article numbers are  
 different. BTDT...unfortunately... Pipermail really is quite crappy,  
 sigh.
 
 Anyhow, when I did that, I went back to a backup to get the original  
 article numbers, and edited the mbox file escaping From lines or  
 adding additional empty messages until the newly regenerated article  
 numbers matched the originals. I'd highly recommend going through that  
 painful process, since I suspect a *lot* of people have links to the  
 python-dev archive. Hope you have a backup (or can find caches on  
 google or archive.org or something).

The Python issue tracker does, for one.

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Business Process Automation - Network/Server Management - Routers/Firewalls
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Re: [Python-Dev] Mailing List archive corruption?

2010-01-19 Thread Nick Coghlan
R. David Murray wrote:
 The Python issue tracker does, for one.

And all the PEPs.

Cheers,
Nick.

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