Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 12 updated with templates for header fields and sections

2019-03-08 Thread Brett Cannon
This is all OT for this thread. If you would like to start a new discussion
about changing the PEP process so discussion threads are tracked more
thoroughly then please do.

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 12:29 AM Victor Stinner  wrote:

> Hi Brett,
>
> I like to see discussions where a PEP has been discussed. There is
> the "Post History" just gives dates. The problem is that PEPs are
> discussed on 3 mailing lists: python-ideas, python-dev and
> python-committers. Maybe some PEP are now also discussed on
> discuss.python.org.
>
> Do you have any recommendation to refer to these discussions?
>
> I would like to suggest to add URLs to the first messages of all
> threads about a PEP... Well... I know that for PEP 572, this list
> would be hard to create and maybe not really useful. Maybe not add
> links to *all* threads, but only the most actives or most "useful"
> threads? The PEP author would be free to decide which threads are
> important or not ;-)
>
> The status quo (Post History header) is fine, if I really want to find
> these discussions, I'm able to find them from dates :-)
>
> Victor
>
> Le ven. 8 mars 2019 à 01:42, Brett Cannon  a écrit :
> >
> > https://github.com/python/peps/blob/master/pep-0012.rst now has a
> complete list of header fields along with format clues for easier
> copy-and-paste use in creating a new PEP. There is also a section template
> with one-liner explanations for what each section is for so people don't
> accidentally leave anything out. They are not in a single, unified template
> to copy to partially make sure people actually read the PEP before they
> start writing. :)
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 12 updated with templates for header fields and sections

2019-03-08 Thread Victor Stinner
Yeah, such list is more convenient than just "Post-History:
14-Aug-2001, 03-Sept-2001".

Victor

Le ven. 8 mars 2019 à 09:40, Jeroen Demeyer  a écrit :
>
> On 2019-03-08 09:29, Victor Stinner wrote:
> > I would like to suggest to add URLs to the first messages of all
> > threads about a PEP...
>
> Like this?
>
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0580/#discussion
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 12 updated with templates for header fields and sections

2019-03-08 Thread Jeroen Demeyer

On 2019-03-08 09:29, Victor Stinner wrote:

I would like to suggest to add URLs to the first messages of all
threads about a PEP...


Like this?

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0580/#discussion
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Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 12 updated with templates for header fields and sections

2019-03-08 Thread Victor Stinner
Hi Brett,

I like to see discussions where a PEP has been disccussed. There is
the "Post History" just gives dates. The problem is that PEPs are
discussed on 3 mailing lists: python-ideas, python-dev and
python-committers. Maybe some PEP are now also discussed on
discuss.python.org.

Do you have any recommendation to referer to these discussions?

I would like to suggest to add URLs to the first messages of all
threads about a PEP... Well... I know that for PEP 572, this list
would be hard to create and maybe not really useful. Maybe not add
links to *all* threads, but only the most actives or most "useful"
threads? The PEP author would be free to decide which threads are
important or not ;-)

The status quo (Post History header) is fine, if I really want to find
these discussions, I'm able to find them from dates :-)

Victor

Le ven. 8 mars 2019 à 01:42, Brett Cannon  a écrit :
>
> https://github.com/python/peps/blob/master/pep-0012.rst now has a complete 
> list of header fields along with format clues for easier copy-and-paste use 
> in creating a new PEP. There is also a section template with one-liner 
> explanations for what each section is for so people don't accidentally leave 
> anything out. They are not in a single, unified template to copy to partially 
> make sure people actually read the PEP before they start writing. :)
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[Python-Dev] PEP 12 updated with templates for header fields and sections

2019-03-07 Thread Brett Cannon
https://github.com/python/peps/blob/master/pep-0012.rst now has a complete
list of header fields along with format clues for easier copy-and-paste use
in creating a new PEP. There is also a section template with one-liner
explanations for what each section is for so people don't accidentally
leave anything out. They are not in a single, unified template to copy to
partially make sure people actually read the PEP before they start writing.
:)
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