Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 is five years old

2013-12-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Brett]
 On 2008-12-03, Python 3.0.0 was released by Barry.

Dang - nobody ever tells me anything.  Congratulations!  It's about
time 3.0.0 was released ;-)

 ...
 Thanks to those in the community who stuck by the dev team and had faith
 we knew what we were doing and have continued to help everyone move
 forward and off of Python 2 to realize how much more pleasant Python 3
 is to work with.

I'm doing all my own coding in 3 now - I like it.  I just wish someone
had told me in 2008 ;-)
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 is five years old

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Tim Peters writes:

  I'm doing all my own coding in 3 now - I like it.  I just wish someone
  had told me in 2008 ;-)

I think it's a testament to the basic strength of the language that
you haven't noticed that *nothing has changed* in Python 2 for several
years. ;-)

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[Python-Dev] Python 3 is five years old

2013-12-04 Thread Brett Cannon
On 2008-12-03, Python 3.0.0 was released by Barry. I was actually on IRC
the night when it happened, with Guido leaving his office across the hall
from mine. We gave each other a high-five and then we both went home. Not
exactly a party, but I know I at least breathed a sigh of relief that
Python 3 was finally real.

On this anniversary I just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to
making Python 3 happen. Thanks to the core devs who worked hard to make
Python better for everyone, even in the face of people yelling at us that
we were crazy, killing Python, etc. Thanks to those in the community who
stuck by the dev team and had faith we knew what we were doing and have
continued to help everyone move forward and off of Python 2 to realize how
much more pleasant Python 3 is to work with.

At this point I'm willing to say I'm happy with how Python 3 has turned out
and how the community has supported it. Python 3.3 was a great release and
I think Python 3.4 will be as well. I see no reason to think that the
language and community's forward momentum will not continue, leading to a
day where Python 2 only exists for people stuck on RHEL. =)
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Re: [Python-Dev] Python 3 is five years old

2013-12-04 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 5 Dec 2013 00:41, Brett Cannon br...@python.org wrote:

 On 2008-12-03, Python 3.0.0 was released by Barry. I was actually on IRC
the night when it happened, with Guido leaving his office across the hall
from mine. We gave each other a high-five and then we both went home. Not
exactly a party, but I know I at least breathed a sigh of relief that
Python 3 was finally real.

 On this anniversary I just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to
making Python 3 happen. Thanks to the core devs who worked hard to make
Python better for everyone, even in the face of people yelling at us that
we were crazy, killing Python, etc. Thanks to those in the community who
stuck by the dev team and had faith we knew what we were doing and have
continued to help everyone move forward and off of Python 2 to realize how
much more pleasant Python 3 is to work with.

 At this point I'm willing to say I'm happy with how Python 3 has turned
out and how the community has supported it. Python 3.3 was a great release
and I think Python 3.4 will be as well. I see no reason to think that the
language and community's forward momentum will not continue, leading to a
day where Python 2 only exists for people stuck on RHEL. =)

Red Hat Software Collections (which includes a Red Hat supported Python 3.3
release) hit general availability in September, so even RHEL users have a
fully supported migration option these days.

It's still going to be a while before the RHEL system Python gets upgraded,
but Fedora at least has a plan for that now :)

Cheers,
Nick.


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