[Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.7.4, Visual Studio versions for building modules from source

2019-07-23 Thread Steve Dower

On 23Jul2019 0812, Kacvinsky, Tom wrote:

Tests passed once I used the right Visual Studio Command prompt.  I was using 
the
x64 Native toolchain command shell.  Once I switched to the generic command 
shell,
all is well.  Thanks for the lick in the right direction, it got me to thinking 
that even
though the tools are installed, I should try different Visual Studio shells.


In general, it's better to not use the VS command shell at all. 
distutils figures out what it needs (setuptools does a better job, for 
what its worth).


If you are going to use the shell, also set DISTUTILS_USE_SDK=1 to 
disable the automatic detection. In the wrong shell you'll get a broken 
build, but it might have unblocked you in this case.


Cheers,
Steve
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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.7.4, Visual Studio versions for building modules from source

2019-07-23 Thread Kacvinsky, Tom



> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Dower 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 11:36 PM
> To: Kacvinsky, Tom ; python-dev@python.org
> Subject: [Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.7.4, Visual Studio versions for building
> modules from source



> This is probably not the best place to ask, though I can understand why you
> ended up here. Please try this command:
> 
>  -m test -v test_distutils -m *get_vc*
> 
> If the tests pass, post to distutils-...@python.org or the Packaging category
> on https://discuss.python.org/
> 
> If the tests fail, post the output into a new bug at https://bugs.python.org/
> along with
> 
> If the tests are skipped, you probably did not install the C++ or "Python
> Native Development" options for Visual Studio. You can run "Visual Studio
> Installer" from Start to change your installed options.

Tests passed once I used the right Visual Studio Command prompt.  I was using 
the
x64 Native toolchain command shell.  Once I switched to the generic command 
shell,
all is well.  Thanks for the lick in the right direction, it got me to thinking 
that even
though the tools are installed, I should try different Visual Studio shells.

Tom
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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.7.4, Visual Studio versions for building modules from source

2019-07-22 Thread Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev

On 22.07.2019 18:25, Kacvinsky, Tom wrote:

HI,

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am trying to build 
pywin32-224 from source for Python 3.7.4.  I think this might
be the right list as this seems to be a generic problem I am having, but I want 
to focus on one particular module.  First, I know
I could get this via 'pip install', but I want to build from source to see what 
it takes in terms of the Windows SDK and Visual Studio
versions for some other work I am doing.

I am using Python 3.7.4, and I have Visual Studio 2017 15.9 (released July of 
this year).

I see this when running 'python setup.y build':


error: Microsoft Visual C++ 14.1 is required. Get it with "Microsoft Visual C++ 
Build Tools": https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/downloads/

I have tried various compilers from that link (VS 2015, VS 2017, and even VS 
2019), but no joy.  I also have the Windows
SDK 8.1 and 10 installed (pywin32 wants the 8.1 SDK)

Does anyone have any ideas as to what I am doing wrong, or if there is some 
weird underlying issue with setuptools and/or
distutils?


Distutils supports the same compiler setup that is used to build Python itself.
As such, it can be seen in PCBuild/readme.txt in the source code 
(https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/3.7/PCbuild/readme.txt).

If the error says that "Microsoft Visual C++ 14.1 is required", be sure to select "v141 tools" in VS installer (readme.txt doesn't say this 
explicitly but it's a mandatory component when selecting VC++ support).


Setuptools supports more compiler setups. They don't see to be listed in the docs but are listed in 
https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/blob/master/setuptools/msvc.py .


---

Last time I checked, the information about supported compiler setups was 
gathered at https://wiki.python.org/moin/WindowsCompilers.
I see that it doesn't have an entry for MSVC 14.1.

Documentation on distutils.msvccompiler 
(https://docs.python.org/3/distutils/apiref.html?highlight=msvccompiler#module-distutils.msvccompiler) also mentions versions but it's 
severely outdated.

Should it refer to readme.txt?


--
Regards,
Ivan
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[Python-Dev] Re: Python 3.7.4, Visual Studio versions for building modules from source

2019-07-22 Thread Steve Dower
On 22Jul.2019 0825, Kacvinsky, Tom wrote:
> HI,
> 
> Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am trying to build 
> pywin32-224 from source for Python 3.7.4.  I think this might
> be the right list as this seems to be a generic problem I am having, but I 
> want to focus on one particular module.  First, I know
> I could get this via 'pip install', but I want to build from source to see 
> what it takes in terms of the Windows SDK and Visual Studio
> versions for some other work I am doing.

This is probably not the best place to ask, though I can understand why
you ended up here. Please try this command:

 -m test -v test_distutils -m *get_vc*

If the tests pass, post to distutils-...@python.org or the Packaging
category on https://discuss.python.org/

If the tests fail, post the output into a new bug at
https://bugs.python.org/ along with

If the tests are skipped, you probably did not install the C++ or
"Python Native Development" options for Visual Studio. You can run
"Visual Studio Installer" from Start to change your installed options.

Cheers,
Steve
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