[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Jun 8, 2019, at 13:01, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 19:03:50 -0400 > Ned Deily wrote: >> This worked for mamy years. I believe the issue is that the process relied >> on the old Subversion source web viewer which has more recently been retired. > > No, it used to work *without* the SVN server. There was a mapping of > SVN revision numbers to hg changeset ids, and hg.python.org/lookup/ would > trigger a WSGI application that would redirect to the appropriate > *changeset* on hg.python.org. > > I don't know why that has changed and why it now redirects to the SVN > server. That's a regression. OK, thanks. Perhaps it got broken in an upgrade to or a move of hg.python.org? Opening an issue on the core-workflow tracker and pinging EWDurbin might get it resolved quickly. In any case, we should be moving things to map directly to a git id as suggested. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/KREW5CU7XNVEBPV3EVBS4PLPTWEDUHFK/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 19:03:50 -0400 Ned Deily wrote: > On Jun 7, 2019, at 18:03, Victor Stinner wrote: > > I am not sure that we are good at archiving. > > I'm not sure what this has to do with mailing list URLs but ... > > > Example with Subversion links in the bug tracker: > > > > https://bugs.python.org/issue2001#msg123254 > > > > "Added the missing CSS file in r86971." > > > > The revision link is: > > https://hg.python.org/lookup/r86971 > > > > Which redirects to the following HTTP 404 (not found) error: > > http://svn.python.org/view?view=revision=86971 > > This worked for mamy years. I believe the issue is that the process relied > on the old Subversion source web viewer which has more recently been retired. No, it used to work *without* the SVN server. There was a mapping of SVN revision numbers to hg changeset ids, and hg.python.org/lookup/ would trigger a WSGI application that would redirect to the appropriate *changeset* on hg.python.org. I don't know why that has changed and why it now redirects to the SVN server. That's a regression. Regards Antoine. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/3I36QQMONPDWJHEDAD67KC52IAWMWLLK/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Jun 7, 2019, at 18:03, Victor Stinner wrote: > I am not sure that we are good at archiving. I'm not sure what this has to do with mailing list URLs but ... > Example with Subversion links in the bug tracker: > > https://bugs.python.org/issue2001#msg123254 > > "Added the missing CSS file in r86971." > > The revision link is: > https://hg.python.org/lookup/r86971 > > Which redirects to the following HTTP 404 (not found) error: > http://svn.python.org/view?view=revision=86971 This worked for mamy years. I believe the issue is that the process relied on the old Subversion source web viewer which has more recently been retired. > We have a mapping of Subversion commits to... Mercurial commits, but the > Mercurial server doesn't use it. > > Then bugs will migrate to GitHub. I already expect that we will loose some > data in the long term... > > I commonly have to dig into Python history to understand the rationale of a > change made 10 years ago, if not 15 or 20 years ago. It is becoming more and > more painful at each migration... There is an open issue about this that appears to have stalled: https://github.com/python/core-workflow/issues/12 Perhaps we can interest someone in picking it up. That would be a big help for everyone. -- Ned Deily n...@python.org -- [] ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/O4OMR5U4TKGEFERMFIVZGTDLU4EW6MOI/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
I am not sure that we are good at archiving. Example with Subversion links in the bug tracker: https://bugs.python.org/issue2001#msg123254 "Added the missing CSS file in r86971." The revision link is: https://hg.python.org/lookup/r86971 Which redirects to the following HTTP 404 (not found) error: http://svn.python.org/view?view=revision=86971 We have a mapping of Subversion commits to... Mercurial commits, but the Mercurial server doesn't use it. Then bugs will migrate to GitHub. I already expect that we will loose some data in the long term... I commonly have to dig into Python history to understand the rationale of a change made 10 years ago, if not 15 or 20 years ago. It is becoming more and more painful at each migration... Victor -- Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/MEAXMKDSMCIOK36BB2VC6NM2NSBAHMPZ/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:19 AM Victor Stinner wrote: > Le jeu. 6 juin 2019 à 14:18, Steven D'Aprano a > écrit : > > i.e. 25-40% longer. Is there a shorter permalink form available, like > > goo.gl, bitly, youtu.be etc use? That would be awesome if we could use > > them instead. > > I really dislike URL shorteners. > > From my point of view, URL shorteners are the opposite of permanent > links. It adds a new single point of failure. > Unless you run your own shortener... operated it part of the infrastructure the shortened links will be going to. In which case the shortened url service prevents the need to modify each and every application to handle shorter things on its own. That way short urls can be made meaningful on their own to indicate where they link to while still being a friendly to avoid gross wrapping length. We could implement our own automatic short namespaces such as https://url.python.org/mail/ideas/48+bit-random-id goo.gl and youtu.be are examples of site specific url shorteners already used this way (now that goo.gl has stopped / is stopping offering itself as a public bit.ly clone service) This also avoids one (of many) ways of giving traffic log stats away to a third party hosting the service. -gps > If a full URL becomes broken (HTTP error 404), I can still try to get > find the information in a different way using the full URL. For > example, there are some services like archive.org who archive public > websites. Or look in other emails "around" this email, maybe the > missing email is quoted from another email. > > Victor > -- > Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/BBEKSKJCNTUK4LMH435UAZOHZ4KXTP3D/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
Wes Turner wrote: > Thanks for getting these upgraded. IMHO, being able to copy URLs from list > message footers as references in e.g. issues will be a great boost in > productivity. This is possible to do using "$hyperkitty_url" in the message footer. You can request the list owners to add that. > > On Friday, June 7, 2019, Stephen J. Turnbull < > turnbull.stephen.fw(a)u.tsukuba.ac.jp wrote: > > > Barry Warsaw writes: > > On Jun 6, 2019, at 09:15, David Mertz > > > > > > > The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. > > > > Unfortunately, the old URLs aren’t really permanent. > > True. That could be addressed in theory, but it would be fragile (ie, > > vulnerable to loss or corruption of the external database mapping > > messages to URLs). Calculating from the message itself means that if > > you have the message you can always get where you want to go. > > > > The new URLs are guaranteed to be reproducible > > from the original > > message source. The downside is that they are less friendly. > > They could, however be made more friendly than they currently are. > > There's no reason (in principle, of course it requires changing code > > and the DNS) why your message, currently given the Archived-At URL > > > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/ > > EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ > > > > couldn't be given (A is for Archives) > > > > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6N > > DS/ > > > > which gets it down to an RFC-conformant 76 characters. ;-) Of course > > many lists would overflow that, and I agree with David that > > > > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/2019/06/ > > EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ > > > > would be better still. Although the risk of collision would be orders > > of magnitude higher (the date buys us some leeway but not much, we > > could make the ID-Hash be 2019/06/B5VZSRS3DDXZN6ET (arbitrarily chose > > middle 16), giving > > > > > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/2019/06/B5VZSRS3DDXZN6ET > > > > (67 characters, allowing a few more characters for domain names and/or > > list names -- note with the current scheme, a domain name which is 1 > > character longer probably uses up two more characters of space). > > Are these message IDs or hashes? > Do they have to be (is this) base-36? > Could they instead be base-62? (26+10+26) > > > > > > None of this is very attractive to me, for reasons I will go into on > > Mailman-Developers or gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues if you want to > > file one. Briefly, people who want bit.ly-length short URLs won't be > > satisfied, and the proposed URLs are more useful but still ugly. > > We shouldn't just drop extra date information from the URL and only lookup > by the messageid unless we add a redirect to the correct dated URL; because > caching and trickery. > > > > > > Personally I think we should all just switch to RestructuredText- and > > Markdown-capable MUAs, and kill off both ugly visible URLs and HTML > > email with one big ol' rock. > > While I personally prefer .rst and .md, hovering over URL anchor text takes > unnecessary time (and I'll remember whether I've been to the actual > http://URL, but not 'here' and 'there'). > So I'm fine with ridiculous, preposterous long links (even in the middle of > the email; without footnotes to scroll back and forth to) > > > > > > Steve > > ___ > > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > > Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@ > > python.org/message/O3T27UUHKKXATOPJT4KEQHREUGYVMELV/ > > ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/BIGAWAPAQZXQ4B6NGDA34VYKUS3ULC3N/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Jun 6, 2019, at 23:50, Wes Turner wrote: > > Thanks for getting these upgraded. IMHO, being able to copy URLs from list > message footers as references in e.g. issues will be a great boost in > productivity. Just FYI, these URLs are a “standard" we proposed many years ago, with discussions among list owners, third party archive maintainers, and developers. This page gives additional details and background: https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Stable%20URLs (standard-in-quotes because no one’s ever proposed an official RFC.) -Barry signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/A7HRYW7JNOYCEPHCNXLQSVVWG4MRENA6/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
Thanks for getting these upgraded. IMHO, being able to copy URLs from list message footers as references in e.g. issues will be a great boost in productivity. On Friday, June 7, 2019, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Barry Warsaw writes: > > On Jun 6, 2019, at 09:15, David Mertz wrote: > > > > > > The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the > length. > > > > Unfortunately, the old URLs aren’t really permanent. > > True. That could be addressed in theory, but it would be fragile (ie, > vulnerable to loss or corruption of the external database mapping > messages to URLs). Calculating from the message itself means that if > you have the message you can always get where you want to go. > > > The new URLs are guaranteed to be reproducible from the original > > message source. The downside is that they are less friendly. > > They could, however be made more friendly than they currently are. > There's no reason (in principle, of course it requires changing code > and the DNS) why your message, currently given the Archived-At URL > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/ > EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ > > couldn't be given (A is for Archives) > > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6N > DS/ > > which gets it down to an RFC-conformant 76 characters. ;-) Of course > many lists would overflow that, and I agree with David that > > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/2019/06/ > EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ > > would be better still. Although the risk of collision would be orders > of magnitude higher (the date buys us some leeway but not much, we > could make the ID-Hash be 2019/06/B5VZSRS3DDXZN6ET (arbitrarily chose > middle 16), giving > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/2019/06/B5VZSRS3DDXZN6ET > > (67 characters, allowing a few more characters for domain names and/or > list names -- note with the current scheme, a domain name which is 1 > character longer probably uses up two more characters of space). Are these message IDs or hashes? Do they have to be (is this) base-36? Could they instead be base-62? (26+10+26) > > None of this is very attractive to me, for reasons I will go into on > Mailman-Developers or gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues if you want to > file one. Briefly, people who want bit.ly-length short URLs won't be > satisfied, and the proposed URLs are more useful but still ugly. We shouldn't just drop extra date information from the URL and only lookup by the messageid unless we add a redirect to the correct dated URL; because caching and trickery. > > Personally I think we should all just switch to RestructuredText- and > Markdown-capable MUAs, and kill off both ugly visible URLs and HTML > email with one big ol' rock. While I personally prefer .rst and .md, hovering over URL anchor text takes unnecessary time (and I'll remember whether I've been to the actual http://URL, but not 'here' and 'there'). So I'm fine with ridiculous, preposterous long links (even in the middle of the email; without footnotes to scroll back and forth to) > > Steve > ___ > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@ > python.org/message/O3T27UUHKKXATOPJT4KEQHREUGYVMELV/ > ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/N62MYXZCUHPDTEQWWTH33BU2FIZ3ROPF/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:30 PM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > They could, however be made more friendly than they currently are. > There's no reason (in principle, of course it requires changing code > and the DNS) why your message, currently given the Archived-At URL > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ > > couldn't be given (A is for Archives) > > https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ > > which gets it down to an RFC-conformant 76 characters. ;-) Can the list name be abbreviated to just "python-dev"? That'd give some extra room to play with. It'd require that lists hosted on that server be unique without their domain names; are there any known collisions? ChrisA ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/ATA5JGGJM6NDMGPP2PJ2QVMZXH6FWETY/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
Barry Warsaw writes: > On Jun 6, 2019, at 09:15, David Mertz wrote: > > > > The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. > > Unfortunately, the old URLs aren’t really permanent. True. That could be addressed in theory, but it would be fragile (ie, vulnerable to loss or corruption of the external database mapping messages to URLs). Calculating from the message itself means that if you have the message you can always get where you want to go. > The new URLs are guaranteed to be reproducible from the original > message source. The downside is that they are less friendly. They could, however be made more friendly than they currently are. There's no reason (in principle, of course it requires changing code and the DNS) why your message, currently given the Archived-At URL https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ couldn't be given (A is for Archives) https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ which gets it down to an RFC-conformant 76 characters. ;-) Of course many lists would overflow that, and I agree with David that https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/2019/06/EFHTPGCSB5VZSRS3DDXZN6ETYP5H6NDS/ would be better still. Although the risk of collision would be orders of magnitude higher (the date buys us some leeway but not much, we could make the ID-Hash be 2019/06/B5VZSRS3DDXZN6ET (arbitrarily chose middle 16), giving https://a.python.org/python-dev@python.org/2019/06/B5VZSRS3DDXZN6ET (67 characters, allowing a few more characters for domain names and/or list names -- note with the current scheme, a domain name which is 1 character longer probably uses up two more characters of space). None of this is very attractive to me, for reasons I will go into on Mailman-Developers or gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues if you want to file one. Briefly, people who want bit.ly-length short URLs won't be satisfied, and the proposed URLs are more useful but still ugly. Personally I think we should all just switch to RestructuredText- and Markdown-capable MUAs, and kill off both ugly visible URLs and HTML email with one big ol' rock. Steve ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/O3T27UUHKKXATOPJT4KEQHREUGYVMELV/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Jun 6, 2019, at 09:15, David Mertz wrote: > > The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. Unfortunately, the old URLs aren’t really permanent. Hypermail calculated them sequentially and if you rebuild the archive from the source-of-truth mbox files, there’s no way to guarantee the original sequence (for various reasons including removal of messages for spam/legal/request purposes, corruption in the mbox files, etc.). In fact, lists on python.org *have* had their archives rebuilt and *have* gotten reshuffled, breaking existing links. The new URLs are guaranteed to be reproducible from the original message source. The downside is that they are less friendly. -Barry signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
The old URL is definitely a lot friendlier, even apart from the length. I know at a glance the month and list where the thread occurred, which is perhaps the most important metadata. In the new link I only know what mailing list it happened on, and nothing else meaningful. On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 8:20 AM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > > > Enhancements: > > * More reliable "permalink" URLs to emails > > This is excellent... > > but the old pipermail URLs were typically something like 70-80 > characters, which means they fit nicely into emails (and comments in > source code). However the new URLs are much longer. Picking two examples > at random: > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2019-March/055976.html > > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-id...@python.org/thread/B7QPHTQSBVN4NFO3SEVR57AIGYPM3MUM/ > > i.e. 25-40% longer. Is there a shorter permalink form available, like > goo.gl, bitly, youtu.be etc use? That would be awesome if we could use > them instead. > > > > -- > Steven > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ > ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/
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Le jeu. 6 juin 2019 à 14:18, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > i.e. 25-40% longer. Is there a shorter permalink form available, like > goo.gl, bitly, youtu.be etc use? That would be awesome if we could use > them instead. I really dislike URL shorteners. From my point of view, URL shorteners are the opposite of permanent links. It adds a new single point of failure. If a full URL becomes broken (HTTP error 404), I can still try to get find the information in a different way using the full URL. For example, there are some services like archive.org who archive public websites. Or look in other emails "around" this email, maybe the missing email is quoted from another email. Victor -- Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > Enhancements: > * More reliable "permalink" URLs to emails This is excellent... but the old pipermail URLs were typically something like 70-80 characters, which means they fit nicely into emails (and comments in source code). However the new URLs are much longer. Picking two examples at random: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2019-March/055976.html https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-id...@python.org/thread/B7QPHTQSBVN4NFO3SEVR57AIGYPM3MUM/ i.e. 25-40% longer. Is there a shorter permalink form available, like goo.gl, bitly, youtu.be etc use? That would be awesome if we could use them instead. -- Steven Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
Barry Warsaw wrote on 6/5/19 10:56 AM: On Jun 5, 2019, at 02:08, Victor Stinner wrote: Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! Gosh, it warms my heart. :) Thank you Mark, Abhilash! -Barry Bravo! Mark and Abhilash, thank you so much. I'm so happy to be able to use Mailman 3 for all my searches :D Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Jun 5, 2019, at 02:08, Victor Stinner wrote: > > Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated > python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 > (running on Python 3 ;-))! Gosh, it warms my heart. :) Thank you Mark, Abhilash! -Barry signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev(a)python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave(a)python.org Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:08:13AM +0200, Victor Stinner wrote: > Hi, > > Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated > python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 > (running on Python 3 ;-))! Great! But email footers are currently broken: > Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org > %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s > Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s -- Steven ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
05.06.19 13:52, Serhiy Storchaka пише: 05.06.19 12:08, Victor Stinner пише: Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! You can now enjoy HyperKitty, the new web UI to access the mailing lists: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/ and https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-id...@python.org/ Hurray! Tested the Gmane gateway: worked in both directions. ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s
[Python-Dev] Re: python-ideas and python-dev migrated to Mailman 3/HyperKitty
05.06.19 12:08, Victor Stinner пише: Our kind postmasters Mark Sapiro and Abhilash Raj migrated python-ideas and python-dev mailing lists from Mailman 2 to Mailman 3 (running on Python 3 ;-))! You can now enjoy HyperKitty, the new web UI to access the mailing lists: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/ and https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-id...@python.org/ Hurray! ___ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-le...@python.org %(web_page_url)slistinfo/%(_internal_name)s Unsubscribe: %(user_optionsurl)s
