Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-08 Thread Zachary Ware 
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Yury Selivanov  wrote:
> Zachary,
>
> Do you run the benchmarks in rigorous mode?

Not currently.  I think I need to reschedule when the benchmarks are
run anyway, to avoid conflicts with PyPy's usage of that box, and will
add rigorous mode when I do that.

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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-08 Thread Yury Selivanov 

Zachary,

Do you run the benchmarks in rigorous mode?

Yury

On 2016-02-04 1:48 AM, Zachary Ware wrote:

I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
part), but it's there.

There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
When you find them, please report them at
https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
mailing list.

Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.

Happy benchmarking,


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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-05 Thread Brett Cannon 
To piggyback on Zach's speed.python.org announcement, we will most likely
be kicking off a discussion of redoing the benchmark suite, tweaking the
test runner, etc. over on the speed@ ML. Those of us who have been doing
perf work lately have found some shortcoming we would like to fix in our
benchmarks suite, so if you want to participate in that discussion, please
join speed@ by next week.

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 22:49 Zachary Ware 
wrote:

> I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
> There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
> one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
> part), but it's there.
>
> There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
> When you find them, please report them at
> https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
> mailing list.
>
> Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
> Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.
>
> Happy benchmarking,
> --
> Zach
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-05 Thread Yury Selivanov 

Big thanks to you, Zachary (and everyone involved)!  It's a very good news.

Yury

On 2016-02-04 1:48 AM, Zachary Ware wrote:

I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
part), but it's there.

There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
When you find them, please report them at
https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
mailing list.

Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.

Happy benchmarking,


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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-04 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 4 February 2016 at 16:48, Zachary Ware  wrote:
> I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
> There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
> one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
> part), but it's there.
>
> There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
> When you find them, please report them at
> https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
> mailing list.
>
> Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
> Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.

This is great to hear!

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-04 Thread Nick Coghlan 
On 4 February 2016 at 16:48, Zachary Ware  wrote:
> I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
> There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
> one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
> part), but it's there.
>
> There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
> When you find them, please report them at
> https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
> mailing list.
>
> Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
> Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.

Heh, cdecimal utterly demolishing the old pure Python decimal module
on the telco benchmark means normalising against CPython 3.5 rather
than 2.7 really isn't very readable :)

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-04 Thread Victor Stinner 
Great!

2016-02-04 7:48 GMT+01:00 Zachary Ware :
> I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
> There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
> one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
> part), but it's there.
>
> There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
> When you find them, please report them at
> https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
> mailing list.
>
> Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
> Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.
>
> Happy benchmarking,
> --
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[Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2016-02-03 Thread Zachary Ware 
I'm happy to announce that speed.python.org is finally functional!
There's not much there yet, as each benchmark builder has only sent
one result so far (and one of those involved a bit of cheating on my
part), but it's there.

There are likely to be rough edges that still need smoothing out.
When you find them, please report them at
https://github.com/zware/codespeed/issues or on the sp...@python.org
mailing list.

Many thanks to Intel for funding the work to get it set up and to
Brett Cannon and Benjamin Peterson for their reviews.

Happy benchmarking,
-- 
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org (was: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-06-24 Thread Philip Jenvey 
 On Jun 22, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com 
 wrote:
 OK, so what you are saying is that speed.python.org will run a buildbot
 slave so that when a change is committed to cPython, a speed run will be
 triggered?  Is the runner a normal buildbot slave, or something
 custom?  In the normal case the master controls what the slave
 runs...but regardless, you'll need to let us know how the slave
 invocation needs to be configured on the master.
 
 Ideally nightly (benchmarks take a while). The setup for pypy looks like 
 this:
 
 
 https://bitbucket.org/pypy/buildbot/src/5fa1f1a4990f842dfbee416c4c2e2f6f75d451c4/bot2/pypybuildbot/builds.py?at=default#cl-734
 
 so fairly easy. This already generates a json file that you can plot.
 We can setup an upload automatically too.
 
 I've been looking at what it will take to set up the buildmaster for
 this, and it looks like it's just a matter of checking out the
 benchmarks, building Python, testing it, and running the benchmarks.
 There is the question of which benchmark repo to use:
 https://bitbucket.org/pypy/benchmarks or
 https://hg.python.org/benchmarks; ideally, we should use
 hg.python.org/benchmarks for CPython benchmarks, but it looks like
 pypy/benchmarks has the necessary runner, so I suppose we'll be using
 it for now.  Is there interest from both sides to merge those
 repositories?

PyPy’s is a more extensive suite but it does not fully support Python 3 yet. It 
makes sense to merge them.

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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org

2015-06-23 Thread M.-A. Lemburg 
On 23.06.2015 03:58, Zachary Ware wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com 
 wrote:
 OK, so what you are saying is that speed.python.org will run a buildbot
 slave so that when a change is committed to cPython, a speed run will be
 triggered?  Is the runner a normal buildbot slave, or something
 custom?  In the normal case the master controls what the slave
 runs...but regardless, you'll need to let us know how the slave
 invocation needs to be configured on the master.

 Ideally nightly (benchmarks take a while). The setup for pypy looks like 
 this:


 https://bitbucket.org/pypy/buildbot/src/5fa1f1a4990f842dfbee416c4c2e2f6f75d451c4/bot2/pypybuildbot/builds.py?at=default#cl-734

 so fairly easy. This already generates a json file that you can plot.
 We can setup an upload automatically too.
 
 I've been looking at what it will take to set up the buildmaster for
 this, and it looks like it's just a matter of checking out the
 benchmarks, building Python, testing it, and running the benchmarks.
 There is the question of which benchmark repo to use:
 https://bitbucket.org/pypy/benchmarks or
 https://hg.python.org/benchmarks; ideally, we should use
 hg.python.org/benchmarks for CPython benchmarks, but it looks like
 pypy/benchmarks has the necessary runner, so I suppose we'll be using
 it for now.  Is there interest from both sides to merge those
 repositories?
 
 The big question for the buildmaster is what options to pass to the
 benchmark runner.  I suppose most of them should match the
 CPythonBenchmark BuildFactory from the PyPy buildbot master
 configuration, but otherwise I'm not sure.
 
 The other big question is where the benchmarks will be run.  The
 speed.python.org page makes it sound like there's a box intended for
 that purpose (the one running the speed.python.org page?); can anyone
 with access to it contact me to get the build slave set up?

Yes, I believe the machine is currently only running that page.

I've pinged the PSF Infra Team to get you access to it.

Thank you for looking into this !

Cheers,
-- 
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Python Software Foundation
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org (was: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-06-22 Thread Zachary Ware 
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski fij...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
 OK, so what you are saying is that speed.python.org will run a buildbot
 slave so that when a change is committed to cPython, a speed run will be
 triggered?  Is the runner a normal buildbot slave, or something
 custom?  In the normal case the master controls what the slave
 runs...but regardless, you'll need to let us know how the slave
 invocation needs to be configured on the master.

 Ideally nightly (benchmarks take a while). The setup for pypy looks like this:


 https://bitbucket.org/pypy/buildbot/src/5fa1f1a4990f842dfbee416c4c2e2f6f75d451c4/bot2/pypybuildbot/builds.py?at=default#cl-734

 so fairly easy. This already generates a json file that you can plot.
 We can setup an upload automatically too.

I've been looking at what it will take to set up the buildmaster for
this, and it looks like it's just a matter of checking out the
benchmarks, building Python, testing it, and running the benchmarks.
There is the question of which benchmark repo to use:
https://bitbucket.org/pypy/benchmarks or
https://hg.python.org/benchmarks; ideally, we should use
hg.python.org/benchmarks for CPython benchmarks, but it looks like
pypy/benchmarks has the necessary runner, so I suppose we'll be using
it for now.  Is there interest from both sides to merge those
repositories?

The big question for the buildmaster is what options to pass to the
benchmark runner.  I suppose most of them should match the
CPythonBenchmark BuildFactory from the PyPy buildbot master
configuration, but otherwise I'm not sure.

The other big question is where the benchmarks will be run.  The
speed.python.org page makes it sound like there's a box intended for
that purpose (the one running the speed.python.org page?); can anyone
with access to it contact me to get the build slave set up?

-- 
Zach
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org (was: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-06-04 Thread Maciej Fijalkowski 
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:32 PM, R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:55:55 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
 On 04.06.2015 04:08, Tetsuya Morimoto wrote:
  If someone were to volunteer to set up and run speed.python.org, I think
  we could add some additional focus on performance regressions. Right now,
  we don't have any way of reliably and reproducibly testing Python
  performance.
 
  I'm very interested in speed.python.org and feel regret that the project is
  standing still. I have a mind to contribute something ...

 On 03.06.2015 18:59, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 
 PM, R. David Murray
  I think we should look into getting speed.python.org up and
  running for both Python 2 and 3 branches:
 
   https://speed.python.org/
 
  What would it take to make that happen ?
 
  I guess ideal would be some cooperation from some of the cpython devs,
  so say someone can setup cpython buildbot
 
  What does set up cpython buildbot mean in this context?
 
  The way it works is dual - there is a program running the benchmarks
  (the runner) which is in the pypy case run by the pypy buildbot and
  the web side that reports stuff. So someone who has access to cpython
  buildbot would be useful.

 (I don't seem to have gotten a copy of Maciej's message, at least not
 yet.)

 OK, so what you are saying is that speed.python.org will run a buildbot
 slave so that when a change is committed to cPython, a speed run will be
 triggered?  Is the runner a normal buildbot slave, or something
 custom?  In the normal case the master controls what the slave
 runs...but regardless, you'll need to let us know how the slave
 invocation needs to be configured on the master.

Ideally nightly (benchmarks take a while). The setup for pypy looks like this:


https://bitbucket.org/pypy/buildbot/src/5fa1f1a4990f842dfbee416c4c2e2f6f75d451c4/bot2/pypybuildbot/builds.py?at=default#cl-734

so fairly easy. This already generates a json file that you can plot.
We can setup an upload automatically too.



 Ok, so there's interest and we have at least a few people who are
 willing to help.

 Now we need someone to take the lead on this and form a small
 project group to get everything implemented. Who would be up
 to such a task ?

 The speed project already has a mailing list, so you could use
 that for organizing the details.

 If it's a low volume list I'm willing to sign up, but regardless I'm
 willing to help with the buildbot setup on the CPython side.  (As soon
 as my credential-update request gets through infrastructure, at least :)

 --David
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org (was: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-06-04 Thread R. David Murray 
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:55:55 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
 On 04.06.2015 04:08, Tetsuya Morimoto wrote:
  If someone were to volunteer to set up and run speed.python.org, I think
  we could add some additional focus on performance regressions. Right now,
  we don't have any way of reliably and reproducibly testing Python
  performance.
  
  I'm very interested in speed.python.org and feel regret that the project is
  standing still. I have a mind to contribute something ...
 
 On 03.06.2015 18:59, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 
 PM, R. David Murray
  I think we should look into getting speed.python.org up and
  running for both Python 2 and 3 branches:
 
   https://speed.python.org/
 
  What would it take to make that happen ?
 
  I guess ideal would be some cooperation from some of the cpython devs,
  so say someone can setup cpython buildbot
 
  What does set up cpython buildbot mean in this context?
 
  The way it works is dual - there is a program running the benchmarks
  (the runner) which is in the pypy case run by the pypy buildbot and
  the web side that reports stuff. So someone who has access to cpython
  buildbot would be useful.

(I don't seem to have gotten a copy of Maciej's message, at least not
yet.)

OK, so what you are saying is that speed.python.org will run a buildbot
slave so that when a change is committed to cPython, a speed run will be
triggered?  Is the runner a normal buildbot slave, or something
custom?  In the normal case the master controls what the slave
runs...but regardless, you'll need to let us know how the slave
invocation needs to be configured on the master.

 Ok, so there's interest and we have at least a few people who are
 willing to help.
 
 Now we need someone to take the lead on this and form a small
 project group to get everything implemented. Who would be up
 to such a task ?
 
 The speed project already has a mailing list, so you could use
 that for organizing the details.

If it's a low volume list I'm willing to sign up, but regardless I'm
willing to help with the buildbot setup on the CPython side.  (As soon
as my credential-update request gets through infrastructure, at least :)

--David
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org (was: 2.7 is here until 2020, please don't call it a waste.)

2015-06-04 Thread M.-A. Lemburg 
On 04.06.2015 04:08, Tetsuya Morimoto wrote:
 If someone were to volunteer to set up and run speed.python.org, I think
 we could add some additional focus on performance regressions. Right now,
 we don't have any way of reliably and reproducibly testing Python
 performance.
 
 I'm very interested in speed.python.org and feel regret that the project is
 standing still. I have a mind to contribute something ...

On 03.06.2015 18:59, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 3:49 PM, 
R. David Murray
 I think we should look into getting speed.python.org up and
 running for both Python 2 and 3 branches:

  https://speed.python.org/

 What would it take to make that happen ?

 I guess ideal would be some cooperation from some of the cpython devs,
 so say someone can setup cpython buildbot

 What does set up cpython buildbot mean in this context?

 The way it works is dual - there is a program running the benchmarks
 (the runner) which is in the pypy case run by the pypy buildbot and
 the web side that reports stuff. So someone who has access to cpython
 buildbot would be useful.

Ok, so there's interest and we have at least a few people who are
willing to help.

Now we need someone to take the lead on this and form a small
project group to get everything implemented. Who would be up
to such a task ?

The speed project already has a mailing list, so you could use
that for organizing the details.

We could also create a PSF work group and assign a budget to it,
if that helps.

If you need help with all this, let me know.

-- 
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[Python-Dev] Speed.Python.org

2011-07-04 Thread Jesse Noller 
Now that we have the machine, we need to start working on
collecting/organizing the resources needed to get a shared codespeed
system in place. After speaking with various people, we felt that
overloading codespeed-dev, pypy-dev or python-dev with the discussions
around this would be sub optimal. I've spun up a new mailing list
here:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/speed

Those who are interested in working on or contributing to the
speed.python.org project can subscribe there. I personally can not
lead the project, and so I will be looking to the current
speed.pypy.org team, and python-dev contributors for leadership in
this. I got you the hardware and hosting! :)

jesse
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[Python-Dev] speed.python.org machine online

2011-06-29 Thread Jesse Noller 
I've posted a more expansive entry on my blog:
http://jessenoller.com/2011/06/29/announcing-the-new-speed-python-org-machine/

But the short version, that as discussed at the VM and language
summit, we now have a hosted machine dedicated to the running of
cross-interpreter speed tests, etc. The hardware was generously donate
by HP and the hosting provided, again, free, by OSU/OSL.

DL380 HP DL380G7 X5670 LFF (2U)
Dual HP NC382i Dual Port Mul­ti­func­tion Giga­bit Server Adapters
HP Smart Array P410i/1GB FBWC Controller
4x 4GB (1x4GB) Dual Rank x4 PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) Reg­is­tered CAS-9 Mem­ory Kit
2x HP 750W Com­mon Slot Gold Hot Plug Power Sup­ply Kit
HP iLO Advanced includ­ing 1yr 24x7 Tech­ni­cal Sup­port and Updates
Elec­tronic  License
4x HP 300GB 6G SAS 15K rpm LFF (3.5-inch) Dual Port Enter­prise 3yr
War­ranty Hard Drive
2   HP DL380 G7 Intel® Xeon® X5680 (3.33GHz/6-core/130W/12MB) FIO Proces­sor Kit

With hyperthreading on, the machine has 24 cores, and handily
translates pypy using cpython 2.7 in about half the time it typically
takes.

I am looking forward to handing this over to the team who will be
running with the project from here on out - special thanks to Van, Bob
Gobeille at HP and the entire OSU/OSL team.

jesse
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Re: [Python-Dev] speed.python.org machine online

2011-06-29 Thread Eric Snow 
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Jesse Noller jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've posted a more expansive entry on my blog:
 http://jessenoller.com/2011/06/29/announcing-the-new-speed-python-org-machine/

 But the short version, that as discussed at the VM and language
 summit, we now have a hosted machine dedicated to the running of
 cross-interpreter speed tests, etc. The hardware was generously donate
 by HP and the hosting provided, again, free, by OSU/OSL.

 DL380 HP DL380G7 X5670 LFF (2U)
 Dual HP NC382i Dual Port Mul­ti­func­tion Giga­bit Server Adapters
 HP Smart Array P410i/1GB FBWC Controller
 4x 4GB (1x4GB) Dual Rank x4 PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) Reg­is­tered CAS-9 Mem­ory 
 Kit
 2x HP 750W Com­mon Slot Gold Hot Plug Power Sup­ply Kit
 HP iLO Advanced includ­ing 1yr 24x7 Tech­ni­cal Sup­port and Updates
 Elec­tronic  License
 4x HP 300GB 6G SAS 15K rpm LFF (3.5-inch) Dual Port Enter­prise 3yr
 War­ranty Hard Drive
 2   HP DL380 G7 Intel® Xeon® X5680 (3.33GHz/6-core/130W/12MB) FIO Proces­sor 
 Kit

 With hyperthreading on, the machine has 24 cores, and handily
 translates pypy using cpython 2.7 in about half the time it typically
 takes.

 I am looking forward to handing this over to the team who will be
 running with the project from here on out - special thanks to Van, Bob
 Gobeille at HP and the entire OSU/OSL team.


Thanks for the continuing effort, Jesse, Van, and everyone!  This is
why Python is great and not just good.  I can't say thank you enough
to all the people that work so hard on tracker issues, documentation,
conferences, outreach, infrastructure, and all the pieces that make
Python more than just a good idea.  Not to discount the effort leading
up to the ideas, but the Python community realizes them through the
hard work of so many individuals willing to sacrifice for something
they love.

I've been following this list for a year and have not seen much
recognition, so it likely goes without saying (or I've just broken an
unwritten rule :), but sometimes it needs to be said out loud
regardless and sometimes loudly.  So thanks everyone!

-eric

 jesse
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