Re: [Python-Dev] version-specific PYTHONPATH env var

2007-03-09 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Anthony Baxter schrieb:
 What do people think about the idea of a version-specific PYTHONPATH 
 environment variable?

I agree with Guido. I normally need an application-specific PYTHONPATH,
and I do that by editing the start script adding a sys.path.append
into it (these days, Python applications often come with a tiny
start script that then imports the main functionality from a module).
Examples where I do this include buildbot, moinmoin, and roundup.
As a system's administrator, I discourage people from setting PATH,
LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PYTHONPATH, and, if possible, CLASSPATH. Instead, I
try to manage the system so that system-wide software is available
to every user without additional setup.

Regards,
Martin

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Re: [Python-Dev] version-specific PYTHONPATH env var

2007-03-09 Thread Ralf Schmitt

On 3/9/07, Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What do people think about the idea of a version-specific PYTHONPATH
environment variable? Something like PYTHON25PATH or the like.
Reason I ask is that on our production systems, we have a couple of
versions of Python being used by different systems. Yes, yes, in a
perfect world they'd be all updated at the same time, sure. There's
occasionally issues with the PYTHONPATH being pointed at something
like .../lib/python2.4/site-packages or the like, and then have
issues when python2.3 or some other different version is run. If we
allowed people to optionally specify a more specific version this
problem would go away.



Few weeks ago I actually needed exactly this functionality. I worked around
it with a .pth file installed for
each version of python I'm using with the following contents:

import sys; sys.path.insert(0, os.path.expanduser(~/pylib%s.%s %
sys.version_info[:2]))
import site, os, sys; site.addsitedir(os.path.expanduser(~/pylib%s.%s %
sys.version_info[:2]))
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[Python-Dev] version-specific PYTHONPATH env var

2007-03-08 Thread Anthony Baxter
What do people think about the idea of a version-specific PYTHONPATH 
environment variable? Something like PYTHON25PATH or the like. 
Reason I ask is that on our production systems, we have a couple of 
versions of Python being used by different systems. Yes, yes, in a 
perfect world they'd be all updated at the same time, sure. There's 
occasionally issues with the PYTHONPATH being pointed at something 
like .../lib/python2.4/site-packages or the like, and then have 
issues when python2.3 or some other different version is run. If we 
allowed people to optionally specify a more specific version this 
problem would go away. 

Anthony
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Re: [Python-Dev] version-specific PYTHONPATH env var

2007-03-08 Thread Guido van Rossum
I recommend not setting these variables at all, or to use wrapper
scripts that set them instead. But there's probably some reason why
you can't do that...

On 3/8/07, Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What do people think about the idea of a version-specific PYTHONPATH
 environment variable? Something like PYTHON25PATH or the like.
 Reason I ask is that on our production systems, we have a couple of
 versions of Python being used by different systems. Yes, yes, in a
 perfect world they'd be all updated at the same time, sure. There's
 occasionally issues with the PYTHONPATH being pointed at something
 like .../lib/python2.4/site-packages or the like, and then have
 issues when python2.3 or some other different version is run. If we
 allowed people to optionally specify a more specific version this
 problem would go away.

 Anthony
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