Re: [Python-Dev] Issues not responded to.

2015-07-31 Thread Stefan Behnel
Carl Meyer schrieb am 31.07.2015 um 06:07:
> So based on my experience with the transition to having a DSF-paid
> Fellow on the Django core team, and having watched important python-dev
> work (e.g. the core workflow stuff) linger due to lack of available
> volunteer time, I'd recommend that python-dev run, not walk, to ask the
> PSF board to fund a similar position for Python core.

Sounds good to me, too. There are already core developers and contributors
being paid for their work in one way or another, either directly or by
'just' being allowed to work on CPython during some of their paid working
hours. Guido's 50% are only the most prominent example. That has never been
a problem. At the end of the day, everyone has to make a living somehow in
order to find time at all to devote to CPython, so I don't see any room for
an envy debate here.

Getting a paid developer in for the background infrastructure work and the
"stuff that needs to get done but wouldn't" seems like a good way to solve
exactly these problems while making it more fun for the others to
concentrate on what they like doing.

Stefan


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Re: [Python-Dev] Issues not responded to.

2015-07-31 Thread Xavier de Gaye



On 07/31/2015 06:42 AM, Zachary Ware wrote:

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Brett Cannon  wrote:

Best thing I can think of is to post the Roundup search you did to find
those 400 so thoseof us who can help can just start whittling them away. You
could also share it with core-mentorship and explain we need help evaluating
these issues with the caveat we have no idea how difficult it is to do the
evaluation.


Here's a query:

https://bugs.python.org/issue?@action=search&@columns=title,id,creator,activity,actor,status&@sort=activity&status=-1,1,3,4&message_count=1



This is nice, thanks.
Note that this is missing the cases where more than one message was required, 
for example to send two attachments (a script as the use case, and a patch).

Xavier
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[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2015-07-31 Thread Python tracker

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2015-07-24 - 2015-07-31)
Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/

To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue.
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Issues counts and deltas:
  open4961 ( +4)
  closed 31563 (+52)
  total  36524 (+56)

Open issues with patches: 2246 


Issues opened (36)
==

#23447: Import fails when doing a circular import involving an `import
http://bugs.python.org/issue23447  reopened by rbcollins

#24476: Statically link vcruntime140.dll
http://bugs.python.org/issue24476  reopened by steve.dower

#24709: Unix build uses '-Wno-unused-result', which icc doesn't recogn
http://bugs.python.org/issue24709  opened by zach.ware

#24710: Class name hardcoded in TracebackException.from_exception()
http://bugs.python.org/issue24710  opened by berker.peksag

#24711: Document getpass.getpass behavior on ^C
http://bugs.python.org/issue24711  opened by untitaker

#24712: Docs page's sidebar vibrates on mouse wheel scroll on Chrome.
http://bugs.python.org/issue24712  opened by Biwin John

#24715: Sorting HOW TO: bad example for reverse sort stability
http://bugs.python.org/issue24715  opened by jwilk

#24718: Specify interpreter when running in IDLE
http://bugs.python.org/issue24718  opened by Daniel Pope

#24720: Python install help
http://bugs.python.org/issue24720  opened by node

#24724: Element.findall documentation misleading
http://bugs.python.org/issue24724  opened by Eric S

#24725: test_socket testFDPassEmpty fails on OS X 10.11 DP with "Canno
http://bugs.python.org/issue24725  opened by ned.deily

#24726: OrderedDict has strange behaviour when dict.__setitem__ is use
http://bugs.python.org/issue24726  opened by Mark.Shannon

#24727: Expand readline module
http://bugs.python.org/issue24727  opened by Barney Stratford

#24731: Incorrect assert in str_subtype_new
http://bugs.python.org/issue24731  opened by Kevin Modzelewski

#24732: 3.5.0b3 Windows accept() on unready non-blocking socket raises
http://bugs.python.org/issue24732  opened by bryangeneolson

#24733: Logically Dead Code
http://bugs.python.org/issue24733  opened by pankaj.s01

#24736: argparse add_mutually_exclusive_group do not print help
http://bugs.python.org/issue24736  opened by Alexandre.Badez

#24739: allow argparse.FileType to accept newline argument
http://bugs.python.org/issue24739  opened by garyp

#24740: make patchcheck doesn't detect changes if commit is done first
http://bugs.python.org/issue24740  opened by rbcollins

#24743: Make _PyTraceback_Add public
http://bugs.python.org/issue24743  opened by mic-e

#24744: Lack of type checks in pkgutil.walk_packages and friends
http://bugs.python.org/issue24744  opened by sleepycal

#24745: Better default font for editor
http://bugs.python.org/issue24745  opened by markroseman

#24746: doctest 'fancy diff' formats incorrectly strip trailing whites
http://bugs.python.org/issue24746  opened by r.david.murray

#24747: ctypes silently truncates ints larger than C int
http://bugs.python.org/issue24747  opened by encukou

#24748: Change of behavior for importlib between 3.4 and 3.5 with DLL 
http://bugs.python.org/issue24748  opened by ebfortin

#24750: IDLE: Cosmetic improvements for main window
http://bugs.python.org/issue24750  opened by markroseman

#24751: regrtest/buildbot: test run marked as failure even when re-run
http://bugs.python.org/issue24751  opened by zach.ware

#24752: SystemError when importing from a non-package directory
http://bugs.python.org/issue24752  opened by fossilet

#24754: argparse add_argument with action="store_true", type=bool shou
http://bugs.python.org/issue24754  opened by dbagnall

#24755: asyncio.wrap_future undocumented
http://bugs.python.org/issue24755  opened by wodny

#24756: doctest run_docstring_examples does have an obvious utility
http://bugs.python.org/issue24756  opened by r.david.murray

#24757: Installing Py on Windows: Need to restart or logout for path t
http://bugs.python.org/issue24757  opened by John Palermo

#24758: unittest.mock.Mock's new "unsafe" feature needs a better error
http://bugs.python.org/issue24758  opened by Randy Syring

#24760: IDLE settings dialog shouldn't be modal
http://bugs.python.org/issue24760  opened by markroseman

#24761: ERROR: test_dh_params (test.test_ssl.ThreadedTests)
http://bugs.python.org/issue24761  opened by cloud2han9

#24762: Branchless, vectorizable frozen set hash
http://bugs.python.org/issue24762  opened by rhettinger



Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15)
==

#24762: Branchless, vectorizable frozen set hash
http://bugs.python.org/issue24762

#24761: ERROR: test_dh_params (test.test_ssl.ThreadedTests)
http://bugs.python.org/issue24761

#24755: asyncio.wrap_future undocumented
http://bugs.python.org/issue24755

#24746: doctest 'fancy diff' formats incorrectly strip trailing whites
http://bugs.python.org/issue24746

#24743: Make _PyTraceback_Add public
http://bugs.python.org/issu

Re: [Python-Dev] Issues not responded to.

2015-07-31 Thread Terry Reedy

On 7/31/2015 7:30 AM, Xavier de Gaye wrote:



On 07/31/2015 06:42 AM, Zachary Ware wrote:

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Brett Cannon 
wrote:

Best thing I can think of is to post the Roundup search you did


Just put 1 in the Message count box on the standard search page. 
Nothing special.



to find those 400 so thoseof us who can help can just start
whittling them away. You could also share it with core-mentorship
and explain we need help evaluating these issues with the caveat
we have no idea how difficult it is to do the evaluation.


Here's a query:
https://bugs.python.org/issue?@action=search&@columns=title,id,creator,activity,actor,status&@sort=activity&status=-1,1,3,4&message_count=1



This is nice, thanks. Note that this is missing the cases where more
than one message was required, for example to send two attachments (a
script as the use case, and a patch).


A second attachment by itself should not increase the message count. 
But people sometimes add a second message with or without an upload.


Putting 1 in the Nosy count will also pick up orphans if no one else has 
been added as nosy.  But the latter can be done by both the original 
poster or triagers or even automatically by the tracker itself.


--

Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: [Python-Dev] Issues not responded to.

2015-07-31 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Xavier de Gaye writes:

 > > Here's a query:
 > >
 > > https://bugs.python.org/issue?@action=search&@columns=title,id,creator,activity,actor,status&@sort=activity&status=-1,1,3,4&message_count=1
 > >
 > 
 > This is nice, thanks.
 > Note that this is missing the cases where more than one message was
 > required, for example to send two attachments (a script as the use
 > case, and a patch).

If this picks up more than 100 (I bet it's the kind of thing Mark
used, so 400 is probably a reasonable estimate), we can clean these up
and worry about the ones that fall through the cracks later.

It's arbitrary but as far as I can see not unfair.

Steve
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