Re: [Python-ideas] Conduct on python-ideas
Hi Everyone Brett Cannon wrote: > I shouldn't be having to explain to adults on how to communicate among > strangers of different cultures, but here we are. I did an entire PyCon US > keynote on why we need to treat open source as a series of kindnesses and > react as such: https://youtu.be/tzFWz5fiVKU?t=49m29s . If we don't treat > everything as a kindness then open source simply doesn't work and people end > up walking way from open source and the Python community. Well, I've just watched that video. Did anyone else? Recommended - it's only 30 minutes. Is that too long? Well, here's two extracts. Video at https://youtu.be/tzFWz5fiVKU?t=4450 > If I had to give guidelines on how to communicate online: > 1. Assume that you are asking *me* for a *favour*. > 2. Assume your *boss* will read what you say. > 3. Assume *your family* will read what you say. Video at https://youtu.be/tzFWz5fiVKU?t=4094 > *If this sounds biased towards maintainers, that's because it is.* > Simply based on scale, maintainers are abused much more > often than contributors. Once again, recommended. I hope you'll watch the video. -- Jonathan ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
Re: [Python-ideas] Conduct on python-ideas
g back and > reading the emails he was replying to). > > And finally, Abe's response was totally uncalled for. I don't care how out > of line someone on this list is, you don't react like that. You come to > Titus and me and we will handle it. If you need to, step back for an hour > or day before replying if that's what it takes to not react in a rude > manner. > > I shouldn't be having to explain to adults on how to communicate among > strangers of different cultures, but here we are. I did an entire PyCon US > keynote on why we need to treat open source as a series of kindnesses and > react as such: https://youtu.be/tzFWz5fiVKU?t=49m29s . If we don't treat > everything as a kindness then open source simply doesn't work and people > end up walking way from open source and the Python community. > > So,* ramifications from all of this* ... > > Steven, stop stating your opinion as fact and being needlessly abrasive. > Your abrasiveness in responses has pushed multiple threads to breaking > points like this before and I know you have the skills to not do that if > you chose to because I've seen it here and on other mailing lists. > Constructive conversations never need anything abrasive in them in order to > get your intentions across. Consider this a warning to scale back the tone > in response to be more respectful. > > Abe, you're receiving a warning about how you eventually reacted. In the > future please just step away from the keyboard until you can react > appropriately. The way you responded to Steven is not acceptable as it > isn't respectful to others on this list and there shouldn't be "vigilante > responses"; if you feel someone has violated the CoC then tell us admins > and we will handle it. > > -Brett & Titus > ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
[Python-ideas] Conduct on python-ideas
don't treat everything as a kindness then open source simply doesn't work and people end up walking way from open source and the Python community. So,* ramifications from all of this* ... Steven, stop stating your opinion as fact and being needlessly abrasive. Your abrasiveness in responses has pushed multiple threads to breaking points like this before and I know you have the skills to not do that if you chose to because I've seen it here and on other mailing lists. Constructive conversations never need anything abrasive in them in order to get your intentions across. Consider this a warning to scale back the tone in response to be more respectful. Abe, you're receiving a warning about how you eventually reacted. In the future please just step away from the keyboard until you can react appropriately. The way you responded to Steven is not acceptable as it isn't respectful to others on this list and there shouldn't be "vigilante responses"; if you feel someone has violated the CoC then tell us admins and we will handle it. -Brett & Titus ___ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
