Steven D'Aprano writes:
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 04:14:57PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > Steven D'Aprano writes:
> >
> > > by the time you have finished debugging the script, the reason for
> > > creating the venv in the first place is no longer relevent.
> >
> > Eh? Would you be willing to unpack that reference to 'venv'
> > specifically, or was that just your patent-pending snark? I can't
> > recall a venv being obviated by later developments,
>
> You have never created a venv and then later decided that it wasn't
> needed because the project was cancelled, the job fell through, somebody
> solved the problem in another way, your client changed the project
> specifications and you deleted the old venv and created a new one, you
> decided to work on something else instead, the company went bust,
> etc?
Oh, sure, that happens. If most of a code base goes away, of course
so does the venv. That's actually a feature! But the *reason* for a
venv in the first place is to ensure that neither the system nor the
project pollutes the other with the "wrong" version of some
dependency. I thought *that* was the "reason" you referred to as
becoming irrelevant.
> we sure are touchy about any suggestion that pip and venvs aren't
> the greatest tools ever made.
Eh, no, I really wanted to know if the need for isolation that venvs
provide somehow goes away and under what circumstances. I have
nothing invested in pip or venvs that would prevent me from adopting
(or even helping to develop) something better (at least for future
projects).
> Here's a hint for the future. When I follow a comment with a smiley
> emoticon or emoji, or *wink*, it means that my comment isn't
> intended to be taken too seriously.
Well, yes, that's why I asked whether it was your patent-pending
snark. Thank you for confirming that it was.
> especially the tendency to spend more time automating a task than will
> ever be saved by the automation.
LOL. All of the automation using pip and venvs that I work with has
more than paid back my investment (especially those that were
developed by somebody else! :-)
Yet-another-Steve-who-knows-how-when-and-why-to-use-smilies
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