ANN: ConfigObj 4.0.0 Final and Pythonutils 0.2.3
ConfigObj 4.0.0 final and Pythonutils 0.2.3 have just hit the streets. http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/configobj.html http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/pythonutils.html They are both pure Python modules - the source distributions include full documentation, which is also online. What's New ? ConfigObj 4.0.0 final has two bugfixes. Using ``setdefault`` to create a new section would return a reference to the dictionary you passed in - not the new section. Also fixed a trivial bug in ``write`` (wouldn't have affected anyone). Pythonutils 0.2.3 is updated to include the ConfigObj 4.0.0 final and cgiutils 0.3.3 ConfigObj is now marked stable. (But caveat emptor :-) What is ConfigObj ? === ConfigObj is a simple but powerful config file reader and writer: an *ini file round tripper*. Its main feature is that it is very easy to use, with a straightforward programmer's interface and a simple syntax for config files. It has lots of other features though : * Nested sections (subsections), to any level * List values * Multiple line values * String interpolation (substitution) * Integrated with a powerful validation system - including automatic type checking/conversion - repeated sections - and allowing default values * All comments in the file are preserved * The order of keys/sections is preserved * No external dependencies What is Pythonutils ? = The Voidspace Pythonutils package is a simple way of installing the Voidspace collection of modules. Several of the Voidspace Projects depend on these modules. They are also useful in their own right of course. They are primarily general utility modules that simplify common programming tasks in Python. These are currently : * ConfigObj - simple config file handling * validate - validation and type conversion system * listquote - string to list conversion * StandOut - simple logging and output control object * pathutils - for working with paths and files * cgiutils - cgi helpers (and functions for sending emails etc) * urlpath - functions for handling URLs * odict - Ordered Dictionary Class All the best, Fuzzyman http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [ w3c standard v.s. ISO ] You haven't said why you thinbk standards are more valuable than recommendations. We apparently both agree they're no more likely to be observed, so what is the reason? That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things, and mixing them up by calling both standards is a bad thing. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ I ploink googlegroups.com :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Don't want to serialize a variable of object
Hi,
I got a class which I need to serialize, except for couple of variable.
i.e.
import cPickle as p
class Color:
def __init__(self):
print hello world
self.x=10
self.somechar=this are the characters
color=Color()
f=file('poem.txt', 'w')
p.dump(color, f)
f.close()
How do I serialize the object color without serializing the x and
somechar variables?
Is there any modifier which prevents the variable from being serialized.
Another question:
Is there a concept of private variables?
regards
prasad chandrasekaran
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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and what they understand. Standards and recommendations are both irrelevant. Unless, of course, you want to support any compliant browser. Since no browser I know of is perfectly compliant (e.g. bug-free), that's not a feasible goal. I guess you'd say developing any software isn't a feasible goal, because it'll never be bug-free, will never have bug-free compilers to compile it, bug-free linkers to link it, bug-free GUI/db/etc libraries to link with it, bug-free servers to communicate with, and bug-free operating systems to run it on. Fortunately, most developers aren't quite that anal, and realize that you can get useful work done in a less-than-perfect environment. Since a compliant browser has hooks that let users change their behavior, well-written HTML will degrade gracefully in the face of a browser that's had features turned off or had their behavior changed. Dealing with browser bugs isnt any harder than that. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
bug in os.system?
The following code fails (pythonbugtest.exe takes one parameter, a
string):
import os
result = os.system('pythonbugtest.exe test')
assert(result == 0)
The error message is:
'pythonbugtest.exe test' is not recognized as an internal or external
command, operable program or batch file.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File C:\Nick\!My Programs\Python\bugtest\python1.py, line 8, in ?
assert(result == 0)
AssertionError
If I remove the quote marks around pythonbugtest.exe or test, it
works fine. But sometimes I need those quote marks, if e.g. there are
spaces in filenames.
I think this is a bug?
I'm running Python 2.4.1 on Windows XP Pro.
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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
On 18 Oct 2005 06:20:56 GMT, John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things, and mixing them up by calling both standards is a bad thing. Because ... what are the consequences? -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:21:55 -0700, David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : I don't think any of it bordered on force or fraud. However, their obligation to their shareholders requires them to do anythign that borders on force/fraud so long as it isn't force/fraud. I avoid MS products whenever possible. Surely others feel the same way because we have had it up to the teeth with MS dirty tactics. That has to be factored into profitability as well. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18 Oct 2005 06:20:56 GMT, John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things, and mixing them up by calling both standards is a bad thing. Because ... what are the consequences? If you mean if you are put in jail for 20 years, and tortured, none. -- John Small Perl scripts: http://johnbokma.com/perl/ Perl programmer available: http://castleamber.com/ I ploink googlegroups.com :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: bug in os.system?
What happens when you try it without the single quotes? result = os.system(pythonbugtest.exe test) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
In comp.os.linux.misc Richard Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to remember an earlier major ... was there a 2.8 or 2.9? Dunno. The first version I used was 3.4, in 1987. MS-DOS 3.3 was the most popular DOS release back in 1987/1988. I don't recall there ever being a 3.4 release, though. We were talking sunOS. At least I was! Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dynamic generation of doc-strings of dynamically generated classes
Alex Martelli wrote:
The best way to make classes on the fly is generally to call the
metaclass with suitable parameters (just like, the best way to make
instances of any type is generally to call that type):
derived = type(base)('derived', (base,), {'__doc__': 'zipp'})
and George Sakkis said something similar.
Thanks, both of you. As I expected, there was a much better way than my
clumsy way. Anyway, this took me to section 3.3.3 in the reference
manual, and that will help me further.
Thanks again. Back to the keyboard!
/MiO
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Re: Don't want to serialize a variable of object
Iyer, Prasad C wrote:
Hi,
I got a class which I need to serialize, except for couple of variable.
i.e.
import cPickle as p
class Color:
def __init__(self):
print hello world
self.x=10
self.somechar=this are the characters
color=Color()
f=file('poem.txt', 'w')
p.dump(color, f)
f.close()
How do I serialize the object color without serializing the x and
somechar variables?
Is there any modifier which prevents the variable from being serialized.
You can create your own serialization process, by providing some kind of
serialize() method
in a base class that would dump part of the object.
Let's say, the instance __dict__ dictionnary ?
this serialize method can then remove the attributes that starts with '_v_'
(that's what we do in Zope to avoid pickling some attribute)
Another question:
Is there a concept of private variables?
That's a long discussion, you should look at the archives in the list.
But anyway, all attributes that starts with '__' are considered private
to the class.
(ie: can't be reached by instance.__attribute)
even though you can find it if you dig into instance.__dict__
Regards,
Tarek
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Re: bug in os.system?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens when you try it without the single quotes? result = os.system(pythonbugtest.exe test) That would be equivalent to result = os.system(pythonbugtest.exetest) which almost certainly won't do anything useful. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC www.holdenweb.com PyCon TX 2006 www.python.org/pycon/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
make: circular dependency for Modules/signalmodule.o
Hi group, I'm preparing Python 2.4.2 for the upcoming Minix 3.x release, and I have problems with make. configure runs fine and creates the makefile, but right at the end ends with an error about a circular dependency in Modules/signalmodule.o. I'm new to makefiles and makefile rules, so I can understand what this means, but I don't know how I can fix this problem. Looks like I'll need to rewrite one or more makefile rules and during Minix builds add some code to patch it up for those rules (as opposed to perhaps porting a more capable `make` like gmake right now). Can someone please help me make this problem go away? Thanks! James Buchanan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: Don't want to serialize a variable of object
Thanks a lot.
Actually you are right I would be trying same thing now.
Writing my own custom serializable for the object.
But everyone else who face the same problem would come up with their own
Serializable code.
Can't we plug something into cpickle So that it discards some variable from
being serializable. Similar to __data for private variables. But on second
thought that would be too much of change that I am asking.
Anyway thanks a lot.
regards
prasad chandrasekaran
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#Hi,
#I got a class which I need to serialize, except for couple of variable.
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#
#import cPickle as p
#class Color:
#def __init__(self):
#print hello world
#self.x=10
#self.somechar=this are the characters
#color=Color()
#f=file('poem.txt', 'w')
#p.dump(color, f)
#f.close()
#
#How do I serialize the object color without serializing the x and
#somechar variables?
#Is there any modifier which prevents the variable from being serialized.
#
#
#You can create your own serialization process, by providing some kind of
#serialize() method
# in a base class that would dump part of the object.
#
#Let's say, the instance __dict__ dictionnary ?
#this serialize method can then remove the attributes that starts with '_v_'
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Re: Don't want to serialize a variable of object
Iyer, Prasad C wrote: How do I serialize the object color without serializing the x and somechar variables? Is there any modifier which prevents the variable from being serialized. See the pickle documentation. The example given in the documentation pickles a class while excluding one of its attributes. http://www.python.org/doc/2.4.2/lib/pickle-example.html Another question: Is there a concept of private variables? 'private variables' can mean either of two things: hiding the variables to prevent accidental naming conflicts in subclasses, or security to prevent malicious manipulation of a class's internal state. Python provides the former (to a certain extent) when you give an attribute a name prefixed with a double underscore, but makes no attempt to provide the latter. Some other languages (such as C++) make no attempt to provide the former and a completely inadequate attempt at the latter. In other words: Python has a concept of private variables, but it is different than in some other languages, and if you google past threads you can find endless discussions on the pro's and con's of the Python approach. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
In comp.lang.java.programmer Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted: Tim Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are there any examples of HTML email causing security problems - outside of Microsoft's software? There was a pretty good one that went something like Click this link to download latest security patch! a href=http://www.mxx.com.Microsoft Security Center/a where mxx is microsoft with the letter i replaced by some exotic Unicode character that looks exactly like an ascii i in normal screen fonts. The attacker had of course registered that domain and put evil stuff there. I didn't think unicode domain names existed. It seems that they are in the pipeline: ``After much debate and many competing proposals, a system called Internationalizing Domain Names in Applications (IDNA) was adopted as the chosen standard, and is currently, as of 2005, in the process of being rolled out.'' - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_names It looks like the security issues are probably going to be dealt with via technical fixes: ``On February 17, 2005, Mozilla developers announced that they would ship their next versions of their software with IDN support still enabled, but showing the punycode URLs instead, thus thwarting any attacks while still allowing people to access websites on an IDN domain. This is a change from the earlier plans to disable IDN entirely for the time being.'' - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_names Anyway, I'm inclined to suggest this is a DNS problem. It would apply to any format that allowed rendering of domain names using the unicode character set they are intended to be displayed using. Even without unicode, the homograph attack is still viable, due to things like the l/I issue in many fonts - as pointed out on: http://www.centr.org/docs/2005/02/homographs.html -- __ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove lock to reply. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
[Ken] Web interfaces are missing a lot more than this. Here are just a few things that cannot be done with web-based interfaces (correct me where I'm wrong): 1) A real word processor. http://www.writely.com/ http://www.goffice.com/ 2) Keybindings in a web application http://rememberthemilk.com/ Google Keys (but what happened to it? It's disappeared!) 3) Drag and drop http://www.walterzorn.com/dragdrop/dragdrop_e.htm http://qooxdoo.oss.schlund.de/demo/release/public/test/user/Index.html (pick Drag and Drop N from the dropdown on the right hand side of the top bar) 4) Resizable windows (i.e. not the browser window) within the application. http://qooxdoo.oss.schlund.de/demo/release/public/test/user/Index.html (pick Window N from the dropdown on the right hand side of the top bar) http://www.bindows.net/ (click Click for a quick DEMO) 5) Anything other than absolutely trivial graphical programs. Not sure what you mean by this... Google maps? web interfaces are still basically forms that can contain buttons, checkboxes, text fields, and a few other basic controls. I wish it were otherwise. It *is* otherwise. You should follow the Ajaxian weblog here: http://www.ajaxian.com/ -- Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: override a property
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: Robin Becker a écrit : Is there a way to override a data property in the instance? Do I need to create another class with the property changed? Do you mean attributes or properties ? I mean property here. My aim was to create an ObserverProperty class that would allow adding and subtracting of set/get observers. My current implementation works fine for properties on the class, but when I need to specialize an instance I find it's quite hard. -- Robin Becker -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
In comp.lang.java.programmer Ross Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted: Roedy, I would just _love_ to see the response from the industry when you tell them they should dump their whole mail infrastructure, and switch over to a whole new system (new protocols, new security holes, new problems start to finish). [...] That's essentially what the IM folk did. It seems quite possible that future email systems will evolve out of existing IM ones. Essentially, IM can do pretty-much everything email can these days, but the reverse is not true at all. IM also seems more evolvable than email is managing to be. About all email has going for it these days is an open format and a large existing user base. -- __ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove lock to reply. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Paul Rubin http://[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torsten Bronger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because everybody is capable of running a JS engine, even on computers on which you don't have rights to install something. I don't think using JS so heavily without a compelling reason is really in the WWW spirit. Lots of browsers don't have JS. And lots of JS is so annoying that some users like to turn it off even in browsers that have it. I don't have the exact numbers, and I'm pretty certain they'd be confidential if I did, but I believe the factors you mention (browsers completely lacking JS, and users turning JS off), *combined*, still allow JS-rich interfaces to run for well over 95% of visitors to our sites. Maybe that's the key difference between the mindset of a mathematician and that of an engineer -- I consider reaching over 95% of visitors to be _quite good indeed_, while you appear to disagree because of WWW spirit issues. Is making a rapidly responsive site (not requiring roundtrips for every interaction) a compelling reason? It seems to me that it is -- and why else would one use ANY Javascript, after all? My one issue with the JS/AJAX mania is that I really dislike JS as a language, particularly when you take the mixed mongrel dialect that you do need to reach all the various browsers and releases needed to make that 95% goal. But, alas, there is really no alternative!-( Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
Gordon Burditt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted: Before worrying about the possible bugs in the implementations, worry about security issues present in the *DESIGN*. Email ought to be usable to carry out a conversation *SAFELY* with some person out to get you. Thus features like this are dangerous (in the *design*, not because they *might* hide a buffer-overflow exploit): - Hyperlinks to anything *outside* the email in which the link resides (web bugs). Acceptable risk, IMO. - Any ability to automatically generate hits on sender-specified servers when the email is read. I hadn't though of that one. As well as use in DDOS attacks, that can help let spammers know if they have reached a human :-| Even a link in a plain text email can be used (though with reduced effectiveness) in such a context :-( -- __ |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove lock to reply. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
global interpreter lock
I just need confirmation that I think right. Is the files thread_xxx.h (xxx = nt, os2 or whatever) responsible for the global interpreter lock in a multithreaded environment? I'm currently writing my own thread_VW for VxWorks, thats why I'm asking. //Tommy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: override a property
Robin Becker wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Robin Becker a écrit :
Is there a way to override a data property in the instance? Do I need
to create another class with the property changed?
Do you mean attributes or properties ?
I mean property here.
Ok, wasn't sure... And sorry, but I've now answer.
My aim was to create an ObserverProperty class
that would allow adding and subtracting of set/get observers.
Could you elaborate ? Or at least give an exemple ?
My current
implementation works fine for properties on the class, but when I need
to specialize an instance I find it's quite hard.
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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
On 18 Oct 2005 06:57:47 GMT, John Bokma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : That an HTML standard (ISO/IEC 15445:2000) and an HTML recommendation by w3c (4.01 for example) are two different things, and mixing them up by calling both standards is a bad thing. Because ... what are the consequences? If you mean if you are put in jail for 20 years, and tortured, none. No. ANY consequences. You have not explained the downside. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Question on class member in python
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Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:12:23 GMT, Tim Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : - Any ability to automatically generate hits on sender-specified servers when the email is read. I hadn't though of that one. As well as use in DDOS attacks, that can help let spammers know if they have reached a human :-| If you think about it, much as you hate spammers you WANT them to have that information. If you never read spam, and they know that, they eventually might stop sending it to you and focus on the nitwits who read it. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:59:47 GMT, Tim Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : Essentially, IM can do pretty-much everything email can these days, but the reverse is not true at all. The problem with IM is the various IM schemes don't talk to each other. You need a client that knows all the IM protocols. But that seems to be happening with Jabber and Trillian. You have too much reliance on a central server. You have to trust the relaying company. I think it is time that nearly all mail was routinely and transparently end to end encrypted, with the exception of long enclosures that are explicitly marked not confidential. You still have spam to a lesser extent and strangers just wanting to talk. -- Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green. http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: override a property
Robin Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
Robin Becker a écrit :
Is there a way to override a data property in the instance? Do I need
to create another class with the property changed?
Do you mean attributes or properties ?
I mean property here. My aim was to create an ObserverProperty class
that would allow adding and subtracting of set/get observers. My current
implementation works fine for properties on the class, but when I need
to specialize an instance I find it's quite hard.
A property is an 'overriding descriptor', AKA 'data descriptor', meaning
it captures assignments ('setattr' kinds of operations), as well as
accesses ('getattr' kinds), when used in a newstyle class. If for some
reason you need an _instance_ to bypass the override, you'll need to set
that instance's class to one which has no overriding descriptor for that
attribute name. A better design might be to use, instead of the builtin
type 'property', a different custom descriptor type that is specifically
designed for your purpose -- e.g., one with a method that instances can
call to add or remove themselves from the set of instances overriding
this ``property'' and a weak-key dictionary (from the weakref module)
mapping such instances to get/set (or get/set/del, if you need to
specialize attribute deletion too) tuples of callables.
Alex
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Re: wxPython question
I've had some problems, it seems that they dont render well in Linux. I tried it with Ubuntu Breezy. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Question on class member in python
Johnny Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Thanks for your help, maybe I should learn how to turn an attibute into a property first. Easy -- in your class's body, just code: def getFoo(self): ... def setFoo(self, value): ... def delFoo(self): ... foo = property(getFoo, setFoo, delFoo, 'this is the foo') Note that if you want subclasses to be able to customize behavior of foo accesses by simple method overrides, you need to program some hooks (an extra level of indirection, if you will). Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Question on class member in python
Johnny Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I still wonder what's the difference between the A().getMember and A().member besides the style Without parentheses after it, getMember is a method. The difference between a method object and an integer object (which is what member itself is in your example) are many indeed, so your question is very strange. You cannot call an integer, you cannot divide methods, etc. Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How to make command history persistent?
Hello, My question is: Is there an easy mean to make Python command history persistent across interpreter invokations? PS: In the case the question above is not clear, I rephrase it below verbosely... When I work from the Python prompt, I enjoy features like command line editing and searching/recalling previous lines of code from the history. (This is similar to working from a Unix shell prompt.) But I would like, in addition, be able to keep the history from one session to another (when I quit Python, the history is lost, but I would like to retrieve it each time In invoke again Python interactively). Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: override a property
bruno modulix wrote:
.
Could you elaborate ? Or at least give an exemple ?
.
in answer to Bengt Bruno here is what I'm sort of playing with. Alex suggests
class change as an answer, but that looks really clunky to me. I'm not sure
what
Alex means by
A better design might be to use, instead of the builtin
type 'property', a different custom descriptor type that is specifically
designed for your purpose -- e.g., one with a method that instances can
call to add or remove themselves from the set of instances overriding
this ``property'' and a weak-key dictionary (from the weakref module)
mapping such instances to get/set (or get/set/del, if you need to
specialize attribute deletion too) tuples of callables.
I see it's clear how to modify the behaviour of the descriptor instance, but is
he saying I need to mess with the descriptor magic methods so they know what
applies to each instance?
## my silly example
class ObserverProperty(property):
def __init__(self,name,observers=None,validator=None):
self._name = name
self._observers = observers or []
self._validator = validator or (lambda x: x)
self._pName = '_' + name
property.__init__(self,
fset=lambda inst, value: self.__notify_fset(inst,value),
)
def __notify_fset(self,inst,value):
value = self._validator(value)
for obs in self._observers:
obs(inst,self._pName,value)
inst.__dict__[self._pName] = value
def add(self,obs):
self._observers.append(obs)
def obs0(inst,pName,value):
print 'obs0', inst, pName, value
def obs1(inst,pName,value):
print 'obs1', inst, pName, value
class A(object):
x = ObserverProperty('x')
a=A()
A.x.add(obs0)
a.x = 3
b = A()
b.x = 4
#I wish I could get b to use obs1 instead of obs0
#without doing the following
class B(A):
x = ObserverProperty('x',observers=[obs1])
b.__class__ = B
b.x = 7
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Re: bug in os.system?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following code fails (pythonbugtest.exe takes one parameter, a
string):
import os
result = os.system('pythonbugtest.exe test')
assert(result == 0)
The error message is:
'pythonbugtest.exe test' is not recognized as an internal or external
command, operable program or batch file.
Traceback (most recent call last):
File C:\Nick\!My Programs\Python\bugtest\python1.py, line 8, in ?
assert(result == 0)
AssertionError
If I remove the quote marks around pythonbugtest.exe or test, it
works fine. But sometimes I need those quote marks, if e.g. there are
spaces in filenames.
I think this is a bug?
yup, but unfortunately, it's a bug at the windows level, not in Python. from
what
I can tell, the problem is that cmd.exe cannot parse the command string it's
given
by the C-level system() call.
possible workarounds:
1. get rid of the quotes around the command name:
result = os.system('pythonbugtest.exe test')
2. add an extra quote (!) before the quoted command name:
result = os.system('pythonbugtest.exe test')
3. use os.spawn or the subprocess module instead.
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Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
John Bokma wrote: [snip] I see little difference with other big companies. You're right that there is no excuse for such behaviour, but if MS isn't doing it, another company will take their place. And if companies are allowed to behave this way (because of your 'nice,fatalistic' argument), this will never change. Showing companies that you don't excuse such behavior would include not buying there products, using other products, whatever. To say that they are just playing the evil part that somebody *has* to play, is to excuse their behavior, IMO. ++ Eike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to make command history persistent?
If using unix, you should have readline available. See the tutotial appendix:- http://www.python.org/doc/current/tut/node15.html Regards, Paul Clinch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Bloodhound.Exploit.49 trojan found in MIMEBase.pyc
Symantec antivirus has apparently picked up a virus in my Python 2.4 (under cygwin): Scan type: Scheduled Scan Event: Threat Found! Threat: Bloodhound.Exploit.49 File: C:\cygwin\lib\python2.4\email\MIMEBase.pyc Location: Quarantine Action taken: Quarantine succeeded There's info to be found on various pages, but it's a pretty terse explanation: http://secunia.com/virus_information/22534/bloodhound.exploit.49/ Has anyone had this also? Is it perhaps a false positive? alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
OT: MS litigation history, was MS FAQ
David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/05 7:21 am Roedy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:44:55 -0700, David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted : It is not Microsoft's obligation to be fair. It is Microsoft's obligation to push their vision of the future of computing, one with Microsoft's products at the center, using anything short of force or fraud. I think that what they did borders on force/fraud. I don't think any of it bordered on force or fraud. However, their obligation to their shareholders requires them to do anythign that borders on force/fraud so long as it isn't force/fraud. However, the use of things too close to force/fraud often backfires. Microsoft has an obligation to be strategic and look nice where those things beneficially impact the bottom line. It's Bill Gates' job to make his company worth as much as possible. DS I think MS obligation to its shareholders to maximise profits, does seem to make them cross the line quite frequently. Because of the slow legal process it seems that it's more profitable to do so. A lot of these were however settled out of court, so technically, in a lot of them MS was not proven to have crossed the line, it does show a certain pattern though, some examples for googling Microsoft lawsuit: - 1982 Microsoft vs Seattle Computer Products, settled out of court. - 1982 Microsoft vs Digital Research, DR won. - 1985 Microsoft vs Apple, settled by Apple leasing MS access to the MacOS code. - 1988-1998 Microsoft vs Apple, settled out of court, MS buys $150 mil Apple stock - 1989 Microsoft vs DEC, settled out of court, MS paid $150 mil - 1994 Microsoft vs Stac Electronics, MS lost, paid $84 mil - 1996 Microsoft vs Novell/Caldera, settled out of court, MS paid $200 mil - 1998-2002 Microsoft vs DOJ20 states, MS lost, MS ordered to split up overturned in appeal. - 2003 Microsoft vs Time-warner, settled out of court, MS pays $750 mil - 2004 Microsoft vs EU, MS fined $613 mil - 2004 Microsoft vs Sun, settled out of court, MS pays $700 mil these guys also have a list, but it contains very few details: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24621 They compute a total of over 9 billion in fines/settlements over the 30 year history of Microsoft. To me it seems that MS finds it more profitable to do cross the line, and just pay the fines afterwards. I find it a real flaw in the corporate legal system that this is a valid way of doing business. That's a whole different topic though. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
html parser?
Hi *,
is there a html parser available, which could i.e. extract all links from a
given text like that:
a href=foo.php?param1=testBARimg src=none.gif/a
a href=foo2.php?param1=testparam2=testBAR2/a
and return a set of dicts like that:
{
['foo.php','BAR','param1','test'],
['foo2.php','BAR2','param1','test','param2','test']
}
thanks,
Chris
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Re: Bloodhound.Exploit.49 trojan found in MIMEBase.pyc
Alex Hunsley wrote: Symantec antivirus has apparently picked up a virus in my Python 2.4 (under cygwin): Scan type: Scheduled Scan Event: Threat Found! Threat: Bloodhound.Exploit.49 File: C:\cygwin\lib\python2.4\email\MIMEBase.pyc Location: Quarantine Action taken: Quarantine succeeded There's info to be found on various pages, but it's a pretty terse explanation: http://secunia.com/virus_information/22534/bloodhound.exploit.49/ Has anyone had this also? Is it perhaps a false positive? if Python had anything to do with this, they would probably have mentioned it in the related documents: http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/venc/data/bloodhound.exploit.49.html http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS05-048.mspx /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: html parser?
Christoph Söllner wrote:
Hi *,
is there a html parser available, which could i.e. extract all links from a
given text like that:
a href=foo.php?param1=testBARimg src=none.gif/a
a href=foo2.php?param1=testparam2=testBAR2/a
and return a set of dicts like that:
{
['foo.php','BAR','param1','test'],
['foo2.php','BAR2','param1','test','param2','test']
}
thanks,
Chris
I asked the same question a week ago, and the answer I got was a really
beautiful one. :-)
http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/
Les
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unittest of file-reading function
Say I have a function def f(filename): result = openFileAndProcessContents(filename) return result Can that function be unit tested without having a real file as input? Something along the lines of import unittest class tests(unittest.TestCase): def test1(self): fileContents = bla bla bla\nmore bla bla bla ??? # make f read this string instead of opening a file expected = expectedResult result = f(filename) self.assertEqual(result, expected) One possibility would be to make the unit test write to a temporary file. Are there better alternatives? -- Helge Stenström -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
在消息 test中发现病毒
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ANN: ConfigObj 4.0.0 Final and Pythonutils 0.2.3
ConfigObj 4.0.0 final and Pythonutils 0.2.3 have just hit the streets. http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/configobj.html http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/pythonutils.html They are both pure Python modules - the source distributions include full documentation, which is also online. What's New ? ConfigObj 4.0.0 final has two bugfixes. Using ``setdefault`` to create a new section would return a reference to the dictionary you passed in - not the new section. Also fixed a trivial bug in ``write`` (wouldn't have affected anyone). Pythonutils 0.2.3 is updated to include the ConfigObj 4.0.0 final and cgiutils 0.3.3 ConfigObj is now marked stable. (But caveat emptor :-) What is ConfigObj ? === ConfigObj is a simple but powerful config file reader and writer: an *ini file round tripper*. Its main feature is that it is very easy to use, with a straightforward programmer's interface and a simple syntax for config files. It has lots of other features though : * Nested sections (subsections), to any level * List values * Multiple line values * String interpolation (substitution) * Integrated with a powerful validation system - including automatic type checking/conversion - repeated sections - and allowing default values * All comments in the file are preserved * The order of keys/sections is preserved * No external dependencies What is Pythonutils ? = The Voidspace Pythonutils package is a simple way of installing the Voidspace collection of modules. Several of the Voidspace Projects depend on these modules. They are also useful in their own right of course. They are primarily general utility modules that simplify common programming tasks in Python. These are currently : * ConfigObj - simple config file handling * validate - validation and type conversion system * listquote - string to list conversion * StandOut - simple logging and output control object * pathutils - for working with paths and files * cgiutils - cgi helpers (and functions for sending emails etc) * urlpath - functions for handling URLs * odict - Ordered Dictionary Class All the best, Fuzzyman http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Question on class member in python
Johnny Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Martelli ??? Now that's a peculiar question... Johnny Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I still wonder what's the difference between the A().getMember and A().member besides the style Without parentheses after it, getMember is a method. The difference between a method object and an integer object (which is what member itself is in your example) are many indeed, so your question is very strange. You cannot call an integer, you cannot divide methods, etc. Alex Sorry, I didn't express myself clear to you. I mean: b = A().getMember() c = A().member what's the difference between b and c? If they are the same, what's the difference in the two way to get the value besides the style. If getMember's body is nothing but a 'return self.member', then there is no difference -- 'assert b is c'. What is the difference between: x = 2 and y = 2+2-2*2/2 ??? Answer: in terms of final results, no difference. On the other hand, the second approach does a lot of obviously useless and intricate computation, so it's a sheer waste of time and effort. Exactly the same answer applies to your question -- obtaining the .member attribute indirectly, by calling a method that returns it, does some obviously useless and moderately intricate computation, which in some ways is a waste of (some) time and effort. That's all! Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: html parser?
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HTTPResponse.read() returns an empty string?
Hi again,
my Source:
import httplib
conn = httplib.HTTPConnection('www.python.org');
conn.request(GET, /index.html);
answ = conn.getresponse();
print answ.status, answ.reason
200 OK
conn.close();
print Start;
Start
print answ.read();
print len(answ.read());
0
print End;
End
And the header states a content length of 11kBytes. What am I doin wrong?
Thanks again,
Chris
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Re: HTTPResponse.read() returns an empty string?
ok got it:
One cannot close the connection before reading the answer.
Seems that in my original source the new assigned variable
'answ' is destroyed or emptied with the connection.close()
command; very strange behaviour.
import httplib
conn = httplib.HTTPConnection('www.python.org');
conn.request(GET, /index.html);
answ = conn.getresponse();
print answ.status, answ.reason
200 OK
conn.close();
print Start;
Start
print answ.read();
print len(answ.read());
0
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Re: Hygenic Macros
David Pokorny wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one good use case. In R, the statistical programming language, you can multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise multiplication). In Python, I have to type import Numeric matrixmultiply(A,B) which makes my code almost unreadable. Thanks, David The problem here is that Python's parse trees are of non-trivial ugliness. A page on the compiler.ast module: http://docs.python.org/lib/node792.html it is, in fact, perfectly possible to write yourself a pre-processor for your particular application. You may have to fiddle with the token you want for notation depending on how the AST fleshes out (% is used by at least a couple of things, after all). My cursory familiarity with python grammar suggests to me that this particular choice of token could be a problem. I would say try it and see. Keep in mind though that since Python's AST is not a trivial matter like it is in Lisp and the like that doing metaprogramming of this sort probably falls into the category of black magic unless it turns out to be very trivial. Another option is to define your own tiny class that will override the __mult__ method so that you can simply do: A * B Which may not be what you want. df -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hygenic Macros
Using numarray/pylab there's also dot: from pylab import * A = array(range(10)) B = array(range(10)) A * B [ 0, 1, 4, 9,16,25,36,49,64,81,] dot(A, B) 285 It might also make your code more readable. I would like A dot B, but even using ipython I can only get as close as dot A, B Dan Farina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/05 1:33 pm David Pokorny wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one good use case. In R, the statistical programming language, you can multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise multiplication). In Python, I have to type import Numeric matrixmultiply(A,B) which makes my code almost unreadable. Thanks, David The problem here is that Python's parse trees are of non-trivial ugliness. A page on the compiler.ast module: http://docs.python.org/lib/node792.html it is, in fact, perfectly possible to write yourself a pre-processor for your particular application. You may have to fiddle with the token you want for notation depending on how the AST fleshes out (% is used by at least a couple of things, after all). My cursory familiarity with python grammar suggests to me that this particular choice of token could be a problem. I would say try it and see. Keep in mind though that since Python's AST is not a trivial matter like it is in Lisp and the like that doing metaprogramming of this sort probably falls into the category of black magic unless it turns out to be very trivial. Another option is to define your own tiny class that will override the __mult__ method so that you can simply do: A * B Which may not be what you want. df -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: popen4
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Re: Hygenic Macros
I seem to remember a rather ugly hack at some point in the past that created a new operator like so A |dot| B where dot was an object which had the OR operator for left and right arguments redefined seperately so that it only made sense when used in that syntax. I guess you could hack something together along the same lines. I just wish I could remember what it was called, it's on the ActiveState Cookbook somewhere. On 18 Oct 2005, at 13:17, Adriaan Renting wrote: Using numarray/pylab there's also dot: from pylab import * A = array(range(10)) B = array(range(10)) A * B [ 0, 1, 4, 9,16,25,36,49,64,81,] dot(A, B) 285 It might also make your code more readable. I would like A dot B, but even using ipython I can only get as close as dot A, B Dan Farina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/05 1:33 pm David Pokorny wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one good use case. In R, the statistical programming language, you can multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise multiplication). In Python, I have to type import Numeric matrixmultiply(A,B) which makes my code almost unreadable. Thanks, David The problem here is that Python's parse trees are of non-trivial ugliness. A page on the compiler.ast module: http://docs.python.org/lib/node792.html it is, in fact, perfectly possible to write yourself a pre- processor for your particular application. You may have to fiddle with the token you want for notation depending on how the AST fleshes out (% is used by at least a couple of things, after all). My cursory familiarity with python grammar suggests to me that this particular choice of token could be a problem. I would say try it and see. Keep in mind though that since Python's AST is not a trivial matter like it is in Lisp and the like that doing metaprogramming of this sort probably falls into the category of black magic unless it turns out to be very trivial. Another option is to define your own tiny class that will override the __mult__ method so that you can simply do: A * B Which may not be what you want. df -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to make command history persistent?
Great! The indicated history save works! Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wxPython + pyPlot
Hellow! I'm writing program with wxpython and pyplot. I need to put a graph (example): def _draw1Objects(): # 100 points sin function, plotted as green circles data1 = 2.*Numeric.pi*Numeric.arange(200)/200. data1.shape = (100, 2) data1[:,1] = Numeric.sin(data1[:,0]) markers1 = PolyMarker(data1, legend='Green Markers', colour='green', marker='circle',size=1) # 50 points cos function, plotted as red line data1 = 2.*Numeric.pi*Numeric.arange(100)/100. data1.shape = (50,2) data1[:,1] = Numeric.cos(data1[:,0]) lines = PolyLine(data1, legend= 'Red Line', colour='red') # A few more points... pi = Numeric.pi markers2 = PolyMarker([(0., 0.), (pi/4., 1.), (pi/2, 0.), (3.*pi/4., -1)], legend='Cross Legend', colour='blue', marker='cross') return PlotGraphics([markers1, lines, markers2],Graph Title, X Axis, Y Axis) on the PlotConvas object self.notebook1 = wx.Notebook(id=wxID_FRAME1NOTEBOOK1, name='notebook1', parent=self, pos=wx.Point(8, 24), size=wx.Size(800, 360), style=0) self.Okno_PT = wx.Window(id=wxID_FRAME1Okno_PT, name='Okno_PT', parent=self.notebook1, pos=wx.Point(0, 0), size=wx.Size(798,328), style=0) self.Wykres_PT = wx.lib.plot.PlotCanvas(id=wxID_FRAME1WYKRES_PT, name=u'Wykres_PT', parent=self.Okno_PT, pos=wx.Point(0, 0), size=wx.Size(510, 328), style=0) and I don't now how to do that. thanks for any help. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: popen4
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Re: Hygenic Macros
Ahar got it http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/384122 Would something like that be any use? On 18 Oct 2005, at 13:21, Alex Stapleton wrote: I seem to remember a rather ugly hack at some point in the past that created a new operator like so A |dot| B where dot was an object which had the OR operator for left and right arguments redefined seperately so that it only made sense when used in that syntax. I guess you could hack something together along the same lines. I just wish I could remember what it was called, it's on the ActiveState Cookbook somewhere. On 18 Oct 2005, at 13:17, Adriaan Renting wrote: Using numarray/pylab there's also dot: from pylab import * A = array(range(10)) B = array(range(10)) A * B [ 0, 1, 4, 9,16,25,36,49,64,81,] dot(A, B) 285 It might also make your code more readable. I would like A dot B, but even using ipython I can only get as close as dot A, B Dan Farina [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/18/05 1:33 pm David Pokorny wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one good use case. In R, the statistical programming language, you can multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise multiplication). In Python, I have to type import Numeric matrixmultiply(A,B) which makes my code almost unreadable. Thanks, David The problem here is that Python's parse trees are of non-trivial ugliness. A page on the compiler.ast module: http://docs.python.org/lib/node792.html it is, in fact, perfectly possible to write yourself a pre- processor for your particular application. You may have to fiddle with the token you want for notation depending on how the AST fleshes out (% is used by at least a couple of things, after all). My cursory familiarity with python grammar suggests to me that this particular choice of token could be a problem. I would say try it and see. Keep in mind though that since Python's AST is not a trivial matter like it is in Lisp and the like that doing metaprogramming of this sort probably falls into the category of black magic unless it turns out to be very trivial. Another option is to define your own tiny class that will override the __mult__ method so that you can simply do: A * B Which may not be what you want. df -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: unittest of file-reading function
Helge Stenstroem wrote: Say I have a function def f(filename): result = openFileAndProcessContents(filename) return result Can that function be unit tested without having a real file as input? Something along the lines of import unittest class tests(unittest.TestCase): def test1(self): fileContents = bla bla bla\nmore bla bla bla ??? # make f read this string instead of opening a file expected = expectedResult result = f(filename) self.assertEqual(result, expected) One possibility would be to make the unit test write to a temporary file. Are there better alternatives? The simplest approach is to use a StringIO. Often that will require passing a file object to the routine instead of a file *name*, but often that's better anyway (decouples file management and parsing). Another approach is to create a mock file object. Depending on your needs, this can be a very simple or a very complex thing to do. I can offer more detail/suggestions here if you need. -Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Bloodhound.Exploit.49 trojan found in MIMEBase.pyc
It's almost certainly a false positive. In my day job we run into false positive antivirus detections like this once or twice a year, and typically get a runaround from the AV vendor (who often have the gall to suggest that we should buy a copy of their broken software before they'll fix their problems) Jeff pgpjaq8H7Vm4a.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hygenic Macros
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:23:43 -0700, David Pokorny wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone has considered macros for Python. I have one good use case. In R, the statistical programming language, you can multiply matrices with A %*% B (A*B corresponds to pointwise multiplication). In Python, I have to type import Numeric matrixmultiply(A,B) which makes my code almost unreadable. Yes, I see what you mean, it is pretty confusing. It almost looks like a function that multiplies two matrices and returns the result. Have you tried coming up with better names for your arguments than A and B? Many people find that using self-documenting variable names helps make code easier to understand. -- Steven. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython + pyPlot
Maebe, does anyone have some examples with wxPython and pyplot? Thanks again, Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)
Hmm. I'm not sure what bothered you about cygwin, but if it has been awhile it's worth another look. For me it makes windows tolerable, and even productive. I'm scared more by your thoughts of transitioning from OS-X to windows. I've seen a bit of OS-X and am slowly be warmed up to it as an option for my next machine by some folks here. What is causing you problems with it ( enough to swtich to windows-wow.)? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Vim capable IDE?
Thanks for your responses, guys. I can't get the PIDA page to come up for me; server timeout error. I'll have to look into Eclipse more, but I've been warned that it's resource greedy and that the VI plugin doesn't provide very much functionality. Still, that's hearsay, so I'll have to find out for myself. I would have figured Vim or VI editing behavior would be a lot more prevalent in IDEs but it seems to be quite rare. I don't understand that, because a lot of people seem to use IDEs, and a lot of people seem to use VI/Vim or Emacs. Is it the young guns that are tied to the IDEs, never knowing powerful text-editors exist, and old dogs sticking to their favorite editors, not giving in to all those distracting bells and whistles of IDEs? What's the deal? A marriage of the two would seem like the best of both worlds. Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython + pyPlot
I think wxWidget comes with a sample Philippe Robert wrote: Maebe, does anyone have some examples with wxPython and pyplot? Thanks again, Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: global interpreter lock
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need confirmation that I think right. Is the files thread_xxx.h (xxx = nt, os2 or whatever) responsible for the global interpreter lock in a multithreaded environment? I'm currently writing my own thread_VW for VxWorks, thats why I'm asking. //Tommy Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but the lock actually lives in ceval.c, around here: 802 PyThread_release_lock(interpreter_lock); 803 804 /* Other threads may run now */ 805 806 PyThread_acquire_lock(interpreter_lock, 1); This was taken from what appears to be a 2.4.1 release rather than a CVS checkout. It looks like the PyThread_type_lock is defined in the thread_xxx.h files, though. HTH, - jmj -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Vim capable IDE?
On 18 Oct 2005 07:16:11 -0700, Chris Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A marriage of the twowould seem like the best of both worlds.Chris The pessimists would say the worst of both worlds ;) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: unittest of file-reading function
Helge Stenstroem wrote: Say I have a function def f(filename): result = openFileAndProcessContents(filename) return result Can that function be unit tested without having a real file as input? If you can refactor openFileAndProcessContents() so it looks like this: def openFileAndProcessContents(filename): data = open(filename).read() processContents(data) then you can write your tests against processContents() and just pass it a string with the test data. I usually have a set of test files as part of my project that I can pass to functions like this. Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Vim capable IDE?
True and I had to give up emacs when I went to eclipse, but it was well worth it. I seem to recall that sourcenavigator allowed to configure an external editor (or maybe was it sniff+ ?) Regards, Philippe Chris Lasher wrote: Thanks for your responses, guys. I can't get the PIDA page to come up for me; server timeout error. I'll have to look into Eclipse more, but I've been warned that it's resource greedy and that the VI plugin doesn't provide very much functionality. Still, that's hearsay, so I'll have to find out for myself. I would have figured Vim or VI editing behavior would be a lot more prevalent in IDEs but it seems to be quite rare. I don't understand that, because a lot of people seem to use IDEs, and a lot of people seem to use VI/Vim or Emacs. Is it the young guns that are tied to the IDEs, never knowing powerful text-editors exist, and old dogs sticking to their favorite editors, not giving in to all those distracting bells and whistles of IDEs? What's the deal? A marriage of the two would seem like the best of both worlds. Chris -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and what they understand. Standards and recommendations are both irrelevant. Unless, of course, you want to support any compliant browser. Since no browser I know of is perfectly compliant (e.g. bug-free), that's not a feasible goal. I guess you'd say developing any software isn't a feasible goal, because it'll never be bug-free, will never have bug-free compilers to compile it, bug-free linkers to link it, bug-free GUI/db/etc libraries to link with it, bug-free servers to communicate with, and bug-free operating systems to run it on. Fortunately, most developers aren't quite that anal, and realize that you can get useful work done in a less-than-perfect environment. I'm not speaking theroetically. My company (though not me personally) creates browser-based UIs, and one of the biggest expenses has been dealing with IE rendering bugs Given the market share of IE, the fact that something should work, and even does work in Firefox, Opera, etc, is irrelevant. If it breaks IE, we can't use it. When we've had similar issues with C++ compilers, patches have usually been forthcoming, or perhaps optimization has to be turned off on a few source files. In a few areas, though, the solution has been Don't do that, and again, the fact that the standard supports it is irrelevant. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to get a raised exception from other thread
Before, after, or during the .start() call, or somewhere else? I'd like to catch *just after* the .start() call. I'm quite sure the problem you are trying to solve can be solved, but you are still describing part of the solution you believe you need, rather than explaining why you want to do this (which may let us show you other, simpler or cleaner ways to accomplish your goals). The thing is that I have in ProgramB a class derived from threading.Thread, that runs a TCPServer, listening to a port on local ip address. As you surely know, you have to specify certain parameters when instantiating the tcpserver: SocketServer.TCPServer(server_address, RequestHandlerClass) where server_address is a tuple (ip,port) ip has to be one of three modes of values (If I remember well): 1. A null string '' Listens on all IP local address 2. A string containing the local IP address where you want it to listen Listens only in the specified local IP address 3. A string containing localhost. Listens only for connections from localhost. Here comes the problem: When you specify the case number 2, the IP must be valid for the computer where the program runs, otherwise, it raises an exception saying that Can't assign requested address. The TCPServer class, defined in a module, is ran (instantiatedly) from the main program through a started thread. The thread also is in the same module as TCPServer class. It looks like (it's much more code than this. If you want the whole code, tell me): MainProgram.py ... SrvrTCP = module.ThreadedTCPServer(ip,port) SrvrTCP.start() #Here, I want to know if the TCPServer started well. ... module.py ... class ThreadedTCPServer(threading.Thread): def __init__(self, ip,port): threading.Thread.__init__(self) self.ip= ip self.port= port def run(self): TCPServer((self.ip,self.port)) #Here, if the self.ip is invalid, it raises an exception. ... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Installing Python at Work
Nikola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm currently learning Python for my own use. I'm considering installing it on a work laptop, knowing that it is non-licensed, distributable software. However, does it access communication ports? I know the company checks their ports regularly for activity. I won't be doing anything very serious; I'm just trying out Python, learning the basics from 'Learning Python' by O'Reilly. Are you asking if it is ok to install Python on your company machine or if Python does anything that might cause you to get caught doing something the company has already said not to do? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: override a property
Robin Becker wrote: Is there a way to override a data property in the instance? Do I need to create another class with the property changed? -- Robin Becker It is possible to decorate a method in a way that it seems like property() respects overridden methods. The decorator cares polymorphism and accesses the right method. def overridable(f): def __wrap_func(self,*args,**kwd): func = getattr(self.__class__,f.func_name) if func.func_name == __wrap_func: return f(self,*args,**kwd) else: return func(self,*args,**kwd) return __wrap_func class A(object): def __init__(self, x): self._x = x @overridable def get_x(self): return self._x x = property(get_x) class B(A): def get_x(self): return self._x**2 class C(B):pass a = A(7) a.x 7 b = B(7) b.x 49 c = C(7) c.x 49 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Installing Python at Work
On 2005-10-17, Nikola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm considering installing it on a work laptop, knowing that it is non-licensed, distributable software. However, does it access communication ports? Only if you tell it to. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm having BEAUTIFUL at THOUGHTS about the INSIPID visi.comWIVES of smug and wealthy CORPORATE LAWYERS... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Writing an immutable object in python
Ok, I've understood my mistake. Now, my list contains a shared entry of an empty object. When an entry is needed to be changed, I check if the entry is the shared empty object; in that case I create a new unique instance. If the entry is already a unique instance, I use it, so the empty object isn't touched. Thanks, Guy. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Richard Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to remember an earlier major ... was there a 2.8 or 2.9? Dunno. The first version I used was 3.4, in 1987. MS-DOS 3.3 was the most popular DOS release back in 1987/1988. I don't recall there ever being a 3.4 release, though. You snipped the bits that provide the context showing that here Peter and I were talking about versions of SunOS, not MS-DOS. I too don't recall an MS-DOS 3.4. The Victor/Sirius version I mentioned was definitely 3.10 (three point ten)--the version byte was hex 030A. Perhaps the gap in sequencing was introduced to separate the versions for IBM-compatible machines from the versions for non-IBM-compatible machines. -- John WingateMathematics is the art which teaches [EMAIL PROTECTED]one how not to make calculations. --Oscar Chisini -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
example of using urllib2 with https urls
Can somebody provide an example of how to retrieve a https url, given username and password? I don't find it in the standard documentation. TIA, Michele Simionato -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython + pyPlot
Philippe C. Martin wrote: I think wxWidget comes with a sample Philippe Yes I use it, but there is not a sample with pyplot. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: Maybe that's the key difference between the mindset of a mathematician and that of an engineer -- I consider reaching over 95% of visitors to be _quite good indeed_, Oh? So you'd consider an SMTP/IMAP/POP/DNS/NFS/etc server that rejected 5% of the systems connecting to be _quite good indeed_? I think I'm glad that the internet wasn't built by people who agreed with that. If you know what you're doing, you can have the best of both worlds for a lot of web applications. Yes, it won't be as rich or functional for the five percent who worry about security (or whatever), but it'll still work. And yes, you can't do it for every application. For those, anyone vaguely competent will add a warning. What surprises me is that marketing types will accept turning away - what's the current internet user base? 200 million? - 10 million potential customers without a complaint. Or maybe they just don't get told that that's what's going on. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: html parser?
* Christoph Söllner (2005-10-18 12:20 +0100) right, that's what I was looking for. Thanks very much. For simple things like that BeautifulSoup might be overkill. import formatter, \ htmllib, \ urllib url = 'http://python.org' htmlp = htmllib.HTMLParser(formatter.NullFormatter()) htmlp.feed(urllib.urlopen(url).read()) htmlp.close() print htmlp.anchorlist and then use urlparse to parse the links/urls... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: reading hebrew text file
realy thanks hagai -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What matters in generating HTML is which browsers you want to support and what they understand. Standards and recommendations are both irrelevant. Unless, of course, you want to support any compliant browser. Since no browser I know of is perfectly compliant (e.g. bug-free), that's not a feasible goal. I guess you'd say developing any software isn't a feasible goal, because it'll never be bug-free, will never have bug-free compilers to compile it, bug-free linkers to link it, bug-free GUI/db/etc libraries to link with it, bug-free servers to communicate with, and bug-free operating systems to run it on. Fortunately, most developers aren't quite that anal, and realize that you can get useful work done in a less-than-perfect environment. I'm not speaking theroetically. My company (though not me personally) creates browser-based UIs, and one of the biggest expenses has been dealing with IE rendering bugs Given the market share of IE, the fact that something should work, and even does work in Firefox, Opera, etc, is irrelevant. If it breaks IE, we can't use it. Been there, done that, threw out the T-shirt as to ugly to wear. Yes, you have to work around bugs in the popular browsers. That hasn't changed since the first published specs showed up. That doesn't mean you throw out the standards and only support a trivial set of browsers. That means you restrict yourself to a subset of the standard, or - better - detect the deficiency and fail soft, the same as you would do when you get a visit from someone who's disabled some feature you want to use. In extreme cases, you wind up implementing something twice: once for busted-but-popular browsers, and once for people using browsers written by developers who read specifications. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[wxPython-users] Web based applications are possible with wxPython?
Hi, I am reading some essays --http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html Beating the averages-- and i am very interested in the web-based applications. I want to take the advantages having the application on a server. Is easy to update, maintain, etc... My questions is Can i have a wxPython GUI app available on a web browser? I founded some doc on the www but the most refers to GUI wrote in java script and tool kits relates with java. Some java script samples are interesting but is not what i am looking for. There is a way for having wxpython frames, dialogs etc on a web browser? If not, can you suggest me any kind oh method for have something similar? Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry
Tim Tyler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In comp.lang.java.programmer Ross Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote or quoted: About all email has going for it these days is an open format and a large existing user base. Yeah, and all that Windows has going for it is being on 9X% of the desktops. Nothing really important at all. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: Maybe that's the key difference between the mindset of a mathematician and that of an engineer -- I consider reaching over 95% of visitors to be _quite good indeed_, What surprises me is that marketing types will accept turning away - what's the current internet user base? 200 million? - 10 million potential customers without a complaint. Or maybe they just don't get told that that's what's going on. Obviously we all agree the effort to support both is significant. The question is not so much do we turn away 5% as do we use the effort we do have to provide a better experience for the 95%, or to provide a slightly worse experience for the 95%, and an ok experience for the 5%. If you're a business, the question then becomes, does the incrementally better experience produce a higher conversion rate (i.e. more sales), in which case it may well be a better investment to focus there and ignore the 5%. It's but one perspective, but depending on your goals, can be a reasonable choice to make. Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
A little help with time calculations
I am trying to make a very simple program and am very new to the whole programming thing. my program is supposed to ask a user for any time in the for format XX:XX:XX and then ask for a time corrrection to add or subtract to this. my only problem is that once the user inputs the time and the correction its adding it like it was 100 not to 60 any help? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 05:32, Richard Steiner stood up and spoke the following words to the masses in /comp.os.linux.misc...:/ Here in comp.os.linux.misc, John Wingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying: Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that I was using 3.x. Maybe it was 3.1? I seem to remember an earlier major ... was there a 2.8 or 2.9? Dunno. The first version I used was 3.4, in 1987. MS-DOS 3.3 was the most popular DOS release back in 1987/1988. I don't recall there ever being a 3.4 release, though. There wàs indeed a version 3.4, but I don't know whether this was MS-DOS. IBM did have a PC-DOS 3.4 at one stage, where it offered the purchaser of the PS/2 series computers the choice between DOS 3.4 and DOS 4.00. However, Peter was of course not talking of DOS. ;-) -- With kind regards, *Aragorn* (Registered Gnu/Linux user #223157) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Mike Meyer a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: Maybe that's the key difference between the mindset of a mathematician and that of an engineer -- I consider reaching over 95% of visitors to be _quite good indeed_, Oh? So you'd consider an SMTP/IMAP/POP/DNS/NFS/etc server that rejected 5% of the systems connecting to be _quite good indeed_? I think I'm glad that the internet wasn't built by people who agreed with that. If you know what you're doing, you can have the best of both worlds for a lot of web applications. Yes, it won't be as rich or functional for the five percent who worry about security (or whatever), but it'll still work. And yes, you can't do it for every application. For those, anyone vaguely competent will add a warning. What surprises me is that marketing types will accept turning away - what's the current internet user base? 200 million? - 10 million potential customers without a complaint. Or maybe they just don't get told that that's what's going on. mike Last time I checked, it was only 60% of the users with Javascript enabled. Not sure about the current ratio but with the various locked down IE installs it doesn't surprise me too much. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Mike Meyer a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: Maybe that's the key difference between the mindset of a mathematician and that of an engineer -- I consider reaching over 95% of visitors to be _quite good indeed_, Oh? So you'd consider an SMTP/IMAP/POP/DNS/NFS/etc server that rejected 5% of the systems connecting to be _quite good indeed_? I think I'm glad that the internet wasn't built by people who agreed with that. If you know what you're doing, you can have the best of both worlds for a lot of web applications. Yes, it won't be as rich or functional for the five percent who worry about security (or whatever), but it'll still work. And yes, you can't do it for every application. For those, anyone vaguely competent will add a warning. What surprises me is that marketing types will accept turning away - what's the current internet user base? 200 million? - 10 million potential customers without a complaint. Or maybe they just don't get told that that's what's going on. mike Last time I checked, it was only 60% of the users with Javascript enabled. Not sure about the current ratio but with the various locked down IE installs it doesn't surprise me too much. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wxPython + pyPlot
My mistake, I understood plot (as in from wx.lib.plot import * that comes with wxwidgets and which does have a demo) Sorry, Philippe Robert wrote: Philippe C. Martin wrote: I think wxWidget comes with a sample Philippe Yes I use it, but there is not a sample with pyplot. Robert -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Yes, this is a python question, and a serious one at that (moving to Win XP)
The shell that comes with MSys (from the MinGW guys). Is pretty good, although it does have a bit of a problem with stdout output before a process exits, ie it will hold back output until the process exits. As a bonus, the file system is a little more sane, and if you are interested in compiling software that is not open source, you are not tied to the Cygwin DLL which is GPLed. I have given up on Cygwin in favour of the tools that come with MSys because they seem slightly better suited to the windows environment. -Chris On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 08:45:17AM +, Jorgen Grahn wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:37:25 +0200, Christophe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth McDonald a ?crit : For unfortunate reasons, I'm considering switching back to Win XP (from OS X) as my main system. Windows has so many annoyances that I can ... Yes, I know that Cygwin is out there, but last I looked, they still went through the Win command-line window, which imposes a lot of restrictions. ... Last time I checked, you could install a native win32gui version of rxvt with cygwin. This would give you a better terminal window than that crappy thing you get in XP. Last time /I/ checked (two years ago or so) that rxvt looked nice enough, but was impossible to use in practice. I cannot remember /what/ the problem was -- possibly it was that it could only run CygWin-compiled commands, or something vital only worked with CygWin-compiled commands. Google probably knows more. I wouldn't be surprised if this has improved since then, or if someone else has come up with a serious Win32 terminal. There is surely a need for one! /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn jgrahn@ Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu \X/algonet.se R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Microsoft Hatred FAQ
Michael Heiming wrote: Let's not forget about the Internet, they invented together with Al Gore and of course the wheel! No fair picking on Al Gore. All he ever claimed was that he was the Congressional point man for the Information Superhighway, which he was. -- John W. Kennedy Read the remains of Shakespeare's lost play, now annotated! http://pws.prserv.net/jwkennedy/Double%20Falshood/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Paul Rubin wrote: All this extreme use of JS misses the point, it's client side programming all over again This is so true, although I don't expect those people relentlessly hyping AJAX to either realise the significance of that observation or to necessarily make an accessible Web site for those people who, for whatever reason, can't use the mountains of JavaScript that perform the fancy fades and colour flashes that seem de rigeur in their Web 2.0 applications. Here's an interesting perspective from outside the AJAX clique: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2005/10/web-office-suites-rofl.html (It even has a Monty Python reference, too.) Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: UI toolkits for Python
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... What surprises me is that marketing types will accept turning away - what's the current internet user base? 200 million? - 10 million potential customers without a complaint. Or maybe they just don't get told that that's what's going on. In firms where marketing has lots of power, they may indeed well decide to pursue those 10 millions by demanding an expenditure of effort that's totally out of proportion (to the detriment of the other 190 millions, of course, since there IS a finite amount of development resources to allocate). Maybe that's part of the explanation for the outstanding success of some enterprises founded by engineers, led by engineers, and staffed overwhelmingly with engineers, competing with other firms where marketing wield power...? Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Vim capable IDE?
Chris Lasher wrote: Thanks for your responses, guys. I can't get the PIDA page to come up for me; server timeout error. I'll have to look into Eclipse more, but I've been warned that it's resource greedy and that the VI plugin doesn't provide very much functionality. Still, that's hearsay, so I'll have to find out for myself. I would have figured Vim or VI editing behavior would be a lot more prevalent in IDEs but it seems to be quite rare. I don't understand that, because a lot of people seem to use IDEs, and a lot of people seem to use VI/Vim or Emacs. Is it the young guns that are tied to the IDEs, never knowing powerful text-editors exist, and old dogs sticking to their favorite editors, not giving in to all those distracting bells and whistles of IDEs? What's the deal? A marriage of the two would seem like the best of both worlds. Chris What features are you looking for. I think most Vim users just add what they want to Vim. Here's what I use to launch a script and capture the output into a read only panel. I think it may still needs a little fine tuning. This is on windows, but it should work on linux with some minor changes. Cheers, Ron Add this to your python.vim file in your ftplugin directory. Run a python script and get the output into a window. set switchbuf=useopen function! RunPython(rmode) if a:rmode=='wnd' Run in python shell and capture the output to a vim buffer window. execute w! if bufnr(python_stdout) 0 exe sb python_stdout else exe 'split python_stdout' endif setlocal noswapfile set buftype=nofile setlocal modifiable normal ggdG silent! exe 'r!python #' setlocal nomodified set filetype=txt normal 1G elseif a:rmode=='ext' Execute script in python shell execute w! !start python -i % else Open an interactive shell !start python endif endfunction Add keymap to run and open console map F12 :call RunPython(wnd)cr map S-F12 :call RunPython(ext)crcr map c-F12 :call RunPython(psh)crcr imap F12 C-\C-N:call RunPython(wnd)cr:starcr imap S-F12 C-\C-N:call RunPython(ext)crcr:starcr imap c-F12 C-\C-N:call RunPython(psh)crcr:starcr -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I pass args using Python Windows
Have a main function that you pass the arguments into. This entry on Guido's blog should help you out: http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=106thread=4829 -Chris On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 09:02:10PM -0400, Ross Reyes wrote: Hi - I wonder if someone might be able to lend a quick answer to this. I have a python script that I normally run from the command line on Solaris. i.e.%pythonscript filein fileout I decided to try IDLE on Windows to do some debugging with the debugger (which I unfortunately dont' have on Solaris 5.7 ) So my question is: How do I pass the command line args when using the Windows IDLE/Python environment? Thanks for any tips. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PEP: Adding decorators for everything
@GuardedClass class Foo: The functionality can be done using a meta-class, in a similarily declarative way. @Transient a = 'a transient field, ignored when serializing' @Const PI = 22.0 / 7 @TypeSafe(int) count = 10 These are tricky, as the implicitly change the nature of the values - they become properties. And the decorator protocol has to change, as the passed value is obviously not a callable, but a random value. So in the end, you could simply do something like this: @Const(3.24) def PI(self): pass with Const basically ignoring its callable-argument and simply returning a get-only-property. I have to admit that I was tempted to use such a thingy just the other day. But it is not exactly nice, and using PI = Const(3.14) as you suggested is even more pleasing. Additionally, the first @Transient-decorator can't be done that way, as the decorator protocol doesn't know about the _name_ a thing is bound to later. And you'd need that to actually set up e.g. __getstate__ operate properly. And it doesn't mkae much sense anyway, as a is a class variable, not a instance variable. So - I'm not very much in favour of these enhancements. It would also be better if multiple decorators could be written on the same line. E.g.: @A @B(x, y) @C def foo(): ... That one I like. Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Vim capable IDE?
I would second that. I use Vim for editing. I find I don't need an IDE (not even for C/C++). Vim does everything I need. If I want a debugger I will use the shell debugger. Most other things can be added to Vim, though I tend to run with very few plugins. -Chris On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 05:12:30PM +, Ron Adam wrote: What features are you looking for. I think most Vim users just add what they want to Vim. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Well written open source Python apps
This is an old thread in this subject that I bookmarked: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/984262217c1b3727/8793a0b7722bb32f -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: html parser?
Thorsten Kampe wrote: For simple things like that BeautifulSoup might be overkill. [HTMLParser example] I've used SGMLParser with some success before, although the SAX-style processing is objectionable to many people. One alternative is to use libxml2dom [1] and to parse documents as HTML: import libxml2dom, urllib url = 'http://www.python.org' doc = libxml2dom.parse(urllib.urlopen(url), html=1) anchors = doc.xpath(//a) Currently, the parseURI function in libxml2dom doesn't do HTML parsing, mostly because I haven't yet figured out what combination of parsing options have to be set to make it happen, but a combination of urllib and libxml2dom should perform adequately. In the above example, you'd process the nodes in the anchors list to get the desired results. Paul [1] http://www.python.org/pypi/libxml2dom -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
