[Ann] Cobra 2.5 - Windows GUI test automation tool
Hello, Highlights * Added Perl interface (Contributed by xsawyerx) * Added parallel execution (Leaks memory though, its not default, set LDTP_PARALLEL_MEM_LEAK environment variable before starting test) * Added new APIs (rightclick) * Fixed multiple bugs reported by users Credit: * Sawyer X (Perl LDTP library) * VMware colleagues * Wold (IRC) * Thanks to all others who have reported bugs through forum / email / in-person / IRC Please spread the word and also share your feedback with us (email me: nagap...@gmail.com). About LDTP: Cross Platform GUI Automation tool Linux version is LDTP, Windows version is Cobra and Mac version is PyATOM (Work in progress). * Linux version is known to work on GNOME / KDE (QT = 4.8) / Java Swing / LibreOffice / Mozilla application on all major Linux distribution. * Windows version is known to work on application written in .NET / C++ / Java / QT on Windows XP SP3 / Windows 7 / Windows 8 development version. * Mac version is currently under development and verified only on OS X Lion/Mountain Lion. Where ever PyATOM runs, LDTP should work on it. Download source: https://github.com/ldtp/cobra Download binary (Windows XP / Windows 7 / Windows 8): https://github.com/ldtp/cobra/downloads System requirement: .NET 3.5, refer README.txt after installation Documentation references: For detailed information on LDTP framework and latest updates visit http://ldtp.freedesktop.org For information on various APIs in LDTP including those added for this release can be got from http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/user-doc/index.html Java doc - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/javadoc/ Report bugs - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs To subscribe to LDTP mailing lists, visit http://ldtp.freedesktop.org/wiki/Mailing_20list IRC Channel - #ldtp on irc.freenode.net Thanks Nagappan -- Linux Desktop (GUI Application) Testing Project - http://ldtp.freedesktop.org Cobra - Windows GUI Automation tool - https://github.com/ldtp/cobra http://nagappanal.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Re: How can I hide my stack frames in a TestCase subclass?
Peter Otten scripsit : David Banks wrote: Note that the custom assert method causes a stack trace with two frames, one inside the method itself, whereas the stock unittest method only has one frame, the relevant line in the user's code. How can I apply this frame-hiding behaviour to my own method? Move MyTestCase in a separate module and define a global variable __unittest = True Hum, is it documented somewhere? I can't find it in the doc. Also, I'm curious to know what kind of magic it's using. -- Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard - http://people.math.jussieu.fr/~mpg/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Reading properties file in Python, except using ConfigParser()
Hi All, How to read properties file in Python? I found ConfigParser() but it has a 'section' limitation, so looking for other alternatives. Thanks, Harsh -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How to create a login screen using core python language without using any framework
I need to develop a simple login page using Python language with two fields and a button, like: Username, Password, Login I know there are some beautiful Python frameworks like Django, Grok, WebPy, TurboGears which support web development using Python, but mine is a basic requirement consisting of only 3 screens (pages): * 1st page - Login page (Redirects to 2nd page when login button is clicked) * 2nd page - Page with records in the form of a list, with an option for adding new records (Redirects to 3rd page when Add Records button is clicked) * 3rd page - Page with fields, which are saved as records for the list on 2nd page (After entering details and clicking Submit) So, I have decided to develop the above functionality using Python **without** using any framework, so that I can have flexibility as well as write my own code. 1. Is it possible to create a login page using Python without using a framework? 2. I haven't worked on web services and don't know the basics of web development in Python. 3. If possible, can you provide me an example on how to create a login page using Python and achieve the functionality described above? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Reading properties file in Python, except using ConfigParser()
On 2012-10-05 09:20, justmailha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, How to read properties file in Python? I found ConfigParser() but it has a 'section' limitation, so looking for other alternatives. http://wiki.python.org/moin/ConfigParserShootout -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: final question: logging to stdout and updating files
On 04/10/2012 15:27, Chris Angelico wrote: ensured that Australia won the next Test Match ChrisA may need to schedule surgical detongueing of his cheek I'll arrange the cheek detonguing very cheaply after a comment like that :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How can I hide my stack frames in a TestCase subclass?
Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote: Peter Otten scripsit : David Banks wrote: Note that the custom assert method causes a stack trace with two frames, one inside the method itself, whereas the stock unittest method only has one frame, the relevant line in the user's code. How can I apply this frame-hiding behaviour to my own method? Move MyTestCase in a separate module and define a global variable __unittest = True Hum, is it documented somewhere? I can't find it in the doc. Also, I'm curious to know what kind of magic it's using. I took advantage of the fact that Python is open source and had a look into the source code ;) $ cd /usr/lib/python2.7/unittest $ grep frame *.py -C2 ... result.py- result.py-def _is_relevant_tb_level(self, tb): result.py:return '__unittest' in tb.tb_frame.f_globals result.py- ... $ grep _is_relevant_tb_level *.py -C5 result.py- result.py-def _exc_info_to_string(self, err, test): result.py-Converts a sys.exc_info()-style tuple of values into a string. result.py-exctype, value, tb = err result.py-# Skip test runner traceback levels result.py:while tb and self._is_relevant_tb_level(tb): result.py-tb = tb.tb_next result.py- ... And so on. I actually used an editor, not grep -- but you get the idea. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to create a login screen using core python language without using any framework
Hi, you can write a simple wsgi app for that, and run it through simple server, for example. http://docs.python.org/library/wsgiref.html 05.10.2012 12:06 пользователь shivakrsh...@gmail.com написал: I need to develop a simple login page using Python language with two fields and a button, like: Username, Password, Login I know there are some beautiful Python frameworks like Django, Grok, WebPy, TurboGears which support web development using Python, but mine is a basic requirement consisting of only 3 screens (pages): * 1st page - Login page (Redirects to 2nd page when login button is clicked) * 2nd page - Page with records in the form of a list, with an option for adding new records (Redirects to 3rd page when Add Records button is clicked) * 3rd page - Page with fields, which are saved as records for the list on 2nd page (After entering details and clicking Submit) So, I have decided to develop the above functionality using Python **without** using any framework, so that I can have flexibility as well as write my own code. 1. Is it possible to create a login page using Python without using a framework? 2. I haven't worked on web services and don't know the basics of web development in Python. 3. If possible, can you provide me an example on how to create a login page using Python and achieve the functionality described above? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: final question: logging to stdout and updating files
On 04/10/2012 23:36, Prasad, Ramit wrote: Python is a product for Americans! ;) It should ensure America wins the Test Matchwait, do we even have a cricket team? ChrisA could have been talking rugby, your rugby union team isn't't too bad for a bunch of amateurs, some of whom had to take unpaid leave to play in the world cup. I don't think there's any rugby league sides in the USA. Then there's speedway and...? Optimization really is that important, folks! ChrisA may need to schedule surgical detongueing of his cheek Think we could get a group rate for c.l.p? I'm sure that with some appropriate grovelling the PSF could arrange this. Perhaps fly everybody to the UK for PyCon and get the surgery done on the NHS at the same time. Ramit -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to print html in python the normal way
Hi, Thanks for the reply. Apologies for my question not clear. Yes I am using django framework for it. - Regards Ashish -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: notmm is dead!
On Thursday, 4 October 2012 23:40:47 UTC+5:30, Etienne Robillard wrote: Dear list, Due to lack of energy and resources i'm really sad to announce the removal of notmm from pypi and bitbucket. I deleted also my account from bitbucket as it was not really useful for me. notmm will continue to be accessible from my master site at http://gthc.org/dist/notmm until the server get down, as I cannot find money to pay for the hosting of notmm.org, Can't you use Google Code? neither anyone to encourage the project so it can grow further. I have tried to develop a coherent extension for Django using the open source model but I'm afraid to have been bitten by its failure to encourage a free market over one dictated by profit and the use of cheap tricks to compete unfairly with perhaps too much openness. I always will also continue to love and use free softwares but sadly it seems asking for a little fairness is too much asked to competitors dedicated in stealing and subverting my work for their own advantages... I therefore refuse to continue any longer being mocked by competitors asking excessive prices for having a broken Internet dictated by a few companies and decide the content I should be visiting. Shall you have anything you wish saying I'll be open to discuss further on this list. I wish also to thanks the supporters of the project who have invested time and energy into my business and dedication to the notmm project. Best wishes, Etienne -- Etienne Robillard Green Tea Hackers Club Fine Software Carpentry For The Rest Of Us! http://gthc.org/ e...@gthcfoundation.org If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. -John F. Kennedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On Friday, 5 October 2012 07:31:24 UTC+5:30, Mike wrote: I agree with you, Ian. Thanks for all the help. Now I get the below error. File test.py, line 17, in module total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) File test.py, line 17, in genexpr total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) Thanks You have missed the last line of the traceback (error) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How can I hide my stack frames in a TestCase subclass?
Peter Otten scripsit : Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote: Peter Otten scripsit : __unittest = True Hum, is it documented somewhere? I can't find it in the doc. Also, I'm curious to know what kind of magic it's using. I took advantage of the fact that Python is open source and had a look into the source code ;) Fair enough. However, there was an implied question in the documented part: can we rely on it? Isn't it considered an implementation detail (names starting with underscores)? $ cd /usr/lib/python2.7/unittest $ grep frame *.py -C2 ... result.py- result.py-def _is_relevant_tb_level(self, tb): result.py:return '__unittest' in tb.tb_frame.f_globals result.py- ... $ grep _is_relevant_tb_level *.py -C5 result.py- result.py-def _exc_info_to_string(self, err, test): result.py-Converts a sys.exc_info()-style tuple of values into a string. result.py-exctype, value, tb = err result.py-# Skip test runner traceback levels result.py:while tb and self._is_relevant_tb_level(tb): result.py-tb = tb.tb_next result.py- ... And so on. I actually used an editor, not grep -- but you get the idea. Sure, thanks. -- Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard - http://people.math.jussieu.fr/~mpg/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
error bluetooth
the code is output the error of the ubuntu from bluetooth import * target_name = My Phone target_address = None nearby_devices = discover_devices() for address in nearby_devices: if target_name == lookup_name( address ): target_address = address break if target_address is not None: print found target bluetooth device with address, target_address else: print could not find target bluetooth device nearby the error luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ python bluetooth.py Traceback (most recent call last): File bluetooth.py, line 14, in module from bluetooth import * File /home/luca/py-temperature/py-temperature/bluetooth.py, line 19, in module nearby_devices = discover_devices() NameError: name 'discover_devices' is not defined luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ it's a bug of the module? thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: + in regular expression
Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote:
On 03Oct2012 21:17, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
| On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 9:01 PM, contro opinion
| contropin...@gmail.com wrote:
| why the \s{6}+ is not a regular pattern?
|
| Use a group: (?:\s{6})+
Yeah, it is probably a precedence issue in the grammar.
(\s{6})+ is also accepted.
It's about syntax, not precedence, but the documentation doesn't really
spell it out in full. Like most regex documentation it talks in woolly
terms about special characters rather than giving a formal syntax.
A regular expression element may be followed by a quantifier.
Quantifiers are '*', '+', '?', '{n}', '{n,m}' (and lazy quantifiers
'*?', '+?', '{n,m}?'). There's nothing in the regex language which says
you can follow an element with two quantifiers. Parentheses (grouping or
non-grouping) around a regex turn that regex into a single element which
is why you can then use another quantifier.
In bnf, I think Python's regexes would be somthing like:
re ::= union | simple-re
union ::= re | simple-re
simple-re ::= concatenation | basic-re
concatenation ::= simple-re basic-re
basic-re ::= element | element quantifier
element ::= group | nc-group | . | ^ | $ | char | charset
quantifier = * | + | ? | { NUMBER } | { NUMBER , NUMBER
} |*? | +? | { NUMBER , NUMBER }?
group ::= ( re )
nc-group ::= (?: re )
char = any non-special character | \ any character
... and so on. I didn't include charsets or all the (?...) extensions or
special sequences.
--
Duncan Booth http://kupuguy.blogspot.com
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Re: How can I hide my stack frames in a TestCase subclass?
Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote: However, there was an implied question in the documented part: can we rely on it? Isn't it considered an implementation detail (names starting with underscores)? Not documented was my implied answer. I think you have a valid use case, though, so you could make a feature request for an official way to hide stack frames on the bugtracker http://bugs.python.org or the python-ideas mailing list. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to create a login screen using core python language without using any framework
On 5/10/12 10:03:56, shivakrsh...@gmail.com wrote: I need to develop a simple login page using Python language with two fields and a button, like: Username, Password, Login I know there are some beautiful Python frameworks like Django, Grok, WebPy, TurboGears which support web development using Python, but mine is a basic requirement consisting of only 3 screens (pages): * 1st page - Login page (Redirects to 2nd page when login button is clicked) * 2nd page - Page with records in the form of a list, with an option for adding new records (Redirects to 3rd page when Add Records button is clicked) * 3rd page - Page with fields, which are saved as records for the list on 2nd page (After entering details and clicking Submit) Implementing your application using any of those frameworks you mentioned, would be easy. So, I have decided to develop the above functionality using Python **without** using any framework, so that I can have flexibility as well as write my own code. This is a bad idea. You'll get much more flexibility using an existing framework then you'd ever achieve by reinventing the wheel on your own. Especially if you have no experience in this field. 1. Is it possible to create a login page using Python without using a framework? Yes. But it's a lot of work. You'd effectively be rewriting all the functionality you'd get for free with a framework. And it wouldn't be as flexible, because frameworks can flex in directions that you didn't think of. 2. I haven't worked on web services and don't know the basics of web development in Python. In that case, your chances of success are fairly slim. 3. If possible, can you provide me an example on how to create a login page using Python and achieve the functionality described above? The frameworks you mentioned earlier come with tutorials. These tutorials contain such examples. You should really use an existing framework. Once you're aware of how much functionality you get out of a framework (any of them), you wouldn't dream of rewriting all that functionality on your own. Hope this helps, -- HansM -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: error bluetooth
Am 05.10.2012 10:51, schrieb Luca Sanna: the code is output the error of the ubuntu from bluetooth import * [...] nearby_devices = discover_devices() [...] the error luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ python bluetooth.py Traceback (most recent call last): File bluetooth.py, line 14, in module from bluetooth import * File /home/luca/py-temperature/py-temperature/bluetooth.py, line 19, in module nearby_devices = discover_devices() NameError: name 'discover_devices' is not defined The module bluetooth doesn't export any function called discover_devices(). You could try dir(bluetooth) or help(bluetooth) (do that from an interactive prompt) to find out what is in there. I don't know why you expect such a function there, if it is mentioned in the documentation or example code that would be a bug. Uli -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: error bluetooth
On 10/05/2012 04:51 AM, Luca Sanna wrote: the code is output the error of the ubuntu from bluetooth import * target_name = My Phone target_address = None nearby_devices = discover_devices() for address in nearby_devices: if target_name == lookup_name( address ): target_address = address break if target_address is not None: print found target bluetooth device with address, target_address else: print could not find target bluetooth device nearby the error luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ python bluetooth.py Traceback (most recent call last): File bluetooth.py, line 14, in module from bluetooth import * File /home/luca/py-temperature/py-temperature/bluetooth.py, line 19, in module nearby_devices = discover_devices() NameError: name 'discover_devices' is not defined luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ it's a bug of the module? thanks Perhaps you named your script bluetooth.py, and thus masked the module bluetooth.py. Pick a different name for your own sources. -- DaveA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: notmm is dead!
No. All past notmm licenses were and still ARE ISC licensed. The license fee is simply because I'm shifting into commercial license for new releases, including the newer 0.4.5 version... Pypi was not the authority source for notmm and neither anyone can claim the license was left blank, thats once again a form of plagiarism. Shall anyone is really serious about supporting the work i did then he'll want to pay a minimal fee to get the proper license rights and can contact me off-list if he want to fork a branch to github of google code. Thanks, Etienne On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:39:55 -0600 Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/04/2012 05:13 PM, Etienne Robillard wrote: Thanks, but I tried all that and don't have much energy for continuing. If you're serious about open source then maybe you can forward the thread to django-developers and get some fundings to pay for a minimalistic fee to get the project maintained by someone else, otherwise I'd prefer sticking with more profitable activities. Nothing in the existing license prevents someone from taking the latest source and posting it back on Pypi as an unmaintained package. Isn't that correct? What are you referring to when you say minimalistic fee. Would this be a fee you require for transferring copyright assignment? I know of no fee necessary for a new maintainer to take over should one wish to. Copyright assignment is not strictly necessary. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Etienne Robillard Green Tea Hackers Club Fine Software Carpentry For The Rest Of Us! http://gthc.org/ e...@gthcfoundation.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
When was the last time you did something for the first time?
What do you want to talk about today? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: When was the last time you did something for the first time?
Micro$oft :) On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 04:03:52 -0700 (PDT) The Matchmaker i.hudo...@gmail.com wrote: What do you want to talk about today? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Etienne Robillard Green Tea Hackers Club Fine Software Carpentry For The Rest Of Us! http://gthc.org/ e...@gthcfoundation.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: error bluetooth
On 5/10/12 10:51:42, Luca Sanna wrote: from bluetooth import * [..] luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ python bluetooth.py When you say from bluetooth import *, Python will find a file name bluetooth.py and import stuff from that file. Since your script happens to be named bluetooth.py, Python will import your script, thinking it is a module. it's a bug of the module? You've chosen the wrong file name. Rename your script. Hope this helps, -- HansM -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Reading properties file in Python, except using ConfigParser()
justmailha...@gmail.com wrote: How to read properties file in Python? I found ConfigParser() but it has a 'section' limitation, so looking for other alternatives. Have a look at PyYAML. Best regards, Günther -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: error bluetooth
Il giorno venerdì 5 ottobre 2012 13:33:14 UTC+2, Hans Mulder ha scritto: On 5/10/12 10:51:42, Luca Sanna wrote: from bluetooth import * [..] luca@luca-XPS-M1330:~/py-temperature/py-temperature$ python bluetooth.py When you say from bluetooth import *, Python will find a file name bluetooth.py and import stuff from that file. Since your script happens to be named bluetooth.py, Python will import your script, thinking it is a module. it's a bug of the module? You've chosen the wrong file name. Rename your script. Hope this helps, -- HansM i'm sorry, it's ok the rename file in bt.py how do I send a ping in bluetooth? because android phones are not always visible. I can not find the ping command thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Coexistence of Python 2.x and 3.x on same OS
On 10/1/2012 1:32 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:06:04 -0400, Edward Diener eldiener@tropicsoft.invalid declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: My thought is a program distributed by Python which finds the versions of Python on an OS, lets the end-user choose which version should be invoked when Python is invoked, and does whatever is necessary to make that version the default version. Which wouldn't be usable on any system that has to boot/process unattended, and run's Python scripts for configuration set-up. I can understand that but my use of Python on Windows is not that case. I simply want to be able to choose which version of Python runs when it is invoked, when I have multiple versions installed. Surely that is a very common case for end-users running 'python' or invoking some script which is associated with python. Making a version default pretty much means being able to rewrite the PATH environment variable... And I've seen too many messes made by some software already (including once having two generations of Python showing up in one PATH!) The PATH environment is constantly changing whether in Linux or Windows. Claiming that this is too dangerous is silly. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Coexistence of Python 2.x and 3.x on same OS
On 10/1/2012 12:02 PM, Alister wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:14:17 -0400, Edward Diener wrote: Has there been any official software that allows both the Python 2.x and 3.x releases to coexist on the same OS so that the end-user can easily switch between them when invoking Python scripts after each has been installed to their own directories/folders ? I know of some unoffical solutions, but they require lots of tweaks. Given the vagaries of the different OSs on which Python can run I am hoping for some offical solution which will work on any of the most popular OSs ( Windows, Linux, Mac ). The situation is so confusing on Windows, where the file associations, registry entries, and other internal software which allows a given Python release to work properly when invoking Python is so complicated, that I have given up on trying to install more than one Python release and finding a relaible, foolproof way of switching between them. So although I would like to use the latest 3.x series on Windows I have decide to stick with the latest 2.x series instead because much software using Python does not support 3.x yet. on my fedora system it was a simple matter of:- # yum install python3 to use python 3 i specify it in my shebang line #!/usr/bun/env python3 Simple Not sure about Windoze though (Although from memory the install asks where to install so should not be a major issue) Windows installs of Python do not distinguish releases by Pythonx(.x) but just install different versions of Python in different directories. However one can make links to the different versions based on their release numbers, and that would allow a shebang line work if it was supported. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Coexistence of Python 2.x and 3.x on same OS
On 9/30/2012 3:38 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2012.09.30 14:14, Edward Diener wrote: The situation is so confusing on Windows, where the file associations, registry entries, and other internal software which allows a given Python release to work properly when invoking Python is so complicated, that I have given up on trying to install more than one Python release and finding a relaible, foolproof way of switching between them. So although I would like to use the latest 3.x series on Windows I have decide to stick with the latest 2.x series instead because much software using Python does not support 3.x yet. http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0397/ Unix-based OSes should already obey the shebang line, and on Windows, there's py.exe in 3.3 that will launch the intended version based on that shebang line. While I was using the alpha/beta versions of 3.3, I had no problems invoking either 3.2 or 3.3 with the shebang line on Windows. Thanks ! I will get this and hopefully it will do what I want. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Coexistence of Python 2.x and 3.x on same OS
On 05/10/2012 13:15, Edward Diener wrote: On 10/1/2012 12:02 PM, Alister wrote: On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:14:17 -0400, Edward Diener wrote: Has there been any official software that allows both the Python 2.x and 3.x releases to coexist on the same OS so that the end-user can easily switch between them when invoking Python scripts after each has been installed to their own directories/folders ? I know of some unoffical solutions, but they require lots of tweaks. Given the vagaries of the different OSs on which Python can run I am hoping for some offical solution which will work on any of the most popular OSs ( Windows, Linux, Mac ). The situation is so confusing on Windows, where the file associations, registry entries, and other internal software which allows a given Python release to work properly when invoking Python is so complicated, that I have given up on trying to install more than one Python release and finding a relaible, foolproof way of switching between them. So although I would like to use the latest 3.x series on Windows I have decide to stick with the latest 2.x series instead because much software using Python does not support 3.x yet. on my fedora system it was a simple matter of:- # yum install python3 to use python 3 i specify it in my shebang line #!/usr/bun/env python3 Simple Not sure about Windoze though (Although from memory the install asks where to install so should not be a major issue) Windows installs of Python do not distinguish releases by Pythonx(.x) but just install different versions of Python in different directories. However one can make links to the different versions based on their release numbers, and that would allow a shebang line work if it was supported. Please read this http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0397/ and let us know whether or not it fits your needs on Windows. -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: When was the last time you did something for the first time?
On Friday, 5 October 2012 16:33:52 UTC+5:30, The Matchmaker wrote: What do you want to talk about today? Nothing. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to create a login screen using core python language without using any framework
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Hans Mulder han...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 5/10/12 10:03:56, shivakrsh...@gmail.com wrote: I need to develop a simple login page using Python language with two fields and a button, like: Username, Password, Login I know there are some beautiful Python frameworks like Django, Grok, WebPy, TurboGears which support web development using Python, but mine is a basic requirement consisting of only 3 screens (pages): * 1st page - Login page (Redirects to 2nd page when login button is clicked) * 2nd page - Page with records in the form of a list, with an option for adding new records (Redirects to 3rd page when Add Records button is clicked) * 3rd page - Page with fields, which are saved as records for the list on 2nd page (After entering details and clicking Submit) Implementing your application using any of those frameworks you mentioned, would be easy. So, I have decided to develop the above functionality using Python **without** using any framework, so that I can have flexibility as well as write my own code. This is a bad idea. You'll get much more flexibility using an existing framework then you'd ever achieve by reinventing the wheel on your own. Especially if you have no experience in this field. 1. Is it possible to create a login page using Python without using a framework? Yes. But it's a lot of work. You'd effectively be rewriting all the functionality you'd get for free with a framework. And it wouldn't be as flexible, because frameworks can flex in directions that you didn't think of. 2. I haven't worked on web services and don't know the basics of web development in Python. In that case, your chances of success are fairly slim. 3. If possible, can you provide me an example on how to create a login page using Python and achieve the functionality described above? The frameworks you mentioned earlier come with tutorials. These tutorials contain such examples. You should really use an existing framework. Once you're aware of how much functionality you get out of a framework (any of them), you wouldn't dream of rewriting all that functionality on your own. I totally agree about using a framework. You say you want a 'simple' 3 page website. Why do you think it is simple? You say you don't have any skills at creating websites with python. From your description, you will need to build a directory of entries, a form, and attach it to a database, so that means you also need to understand sql (or something!). You need to display individual records I imagine. Do you need to edit them after they are created? How are you going to manage the accounts? Will you create them? Will you let the visitor create an account? Where will you store the account information? Do different accounts have different permissions? If you install django (for instance), go through the online tutorials in about 2 hours, you could probably build your specification in a day. Even if you have problems there is an active django mailing list to ask specific questions. I haven't tried the other frameworks, but there might be similar help available for them. -- Joel Goldstick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: final question: logging to stdout and updating files
On Thursday, 4 October 2012 19:30:26 UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:34:28 -0700, Ramchandra Apte wrote: Optimize code always even if it causes bugs - Ramchandra Apte, 2001- Well, you've just added yourself into my list of people whose advice should always be ignored. That is *terrible* advice. But if you insist on following it, you can optimize *any* Python program to this: # === start code === pass # this line is optional # === end code === There you go. The most heavily optimized, fastest Python program in existence. Sure, it has a few bugs, but boy is it fast!!! -- Steven Please disclose the list of people. This email is subject to important disclosures available at loobafoobajo.ke/legal.html LOOBA FOOBA JOKE COMPANY MAKES NO WARRANTIES ABOUT THIS EMAIL Read at your risk - you may die from reading this email. ;-P -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote: Hi All, I am new to python and am getting the data from hbase. I am trying to do sum on the column as below scanner = client.scannerOpenWithStop(tab, 10, 1000, [cf:col1]) total = 0.0 r = client.scannerGet(scanner) while r: for k in (r[0].columns): total += float(r[0].columns[k].value) r = client.scannerGet(scanner) print total Do you know of better (faster) way to do sum? Any thoughts please? Thanks Sorry about that. Here you go Traceback (most recent call last): File test.py, line 17, in module total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) File test.py, line 17, in genexpr total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) IndexError: list index out of range -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On Friday, 5 October 2012 19:09:15 UTC+5:30, Mike wrote: On Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote: Hi All, I am new to python and am getting the data from hbase. I am trying to do sum on the column as below scanner = client.scannerOpenWithStop(tab, 10, 1000, [cf:col1]) total = 0.0 r = client.scannerGet(scanner) while r: for k in (r[0].columns): total += float(r[0].columns[k].value) r = client.scannerGet(scanner) print total Do you know of better (faster) way to do sum? Any thoughts please? Thanks Sorry about that. Here you go Traceback (most recent call last): File test.py, line 17, in module total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) File test.py, line 17, in genexpr total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) IndexError: list index out of range the variable r is an empty list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On Friday, October 5, 2012 9:41:44 AM UTC-4, Ramchandra Apte wrote: On Friday, 5 October 2012 19:09:15 UTC+5:30, Mike wrote: On Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote: Hi All, I am new to python and am getting the data from hbase. I am trying to do sum on the column as below scanner = client.scannerOpenWithStop(tab, 10, 1000, [cf:col1]) total = 0.0 r = client.scannerGet(scanner) while r: for k in (r[0].columns): total += float(r[0].columns[k].value) r = client.scannerGet(scanner) print total Do you know of better (faster) way to do sum? Any thoughts please? Thanks Sorry about that. Here you go Traceback (most recent call last): File test.py, line 17, in module total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) File test.py, line 17, in genexpr total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) IndexError: list index out of range the variable r is an empty list Here is the actual code. scanner = client.scannerOpenWithStop(tab, 10, 1000, [cf:col1]) next_r = functools.partial(client.scannerGet, scanner) total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) Scanner does have rows. Are we missing something please? Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to call python script from web.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Mike mike20...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I can call the php script from browser assuming apache web server exists. How can I call the python script like php script? Any thought? Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list A popular way for apache is to use mod_wsgi. http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/ -- Joel Goldstick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to create a login screen using core python language without using any framework
On 12-10-05 06:11 AM, Joel Goldstick wrote: I totally agree about using a framework. You say you want a 'simple' 3 page website. Why do you think it is simple? You say you don't have any skills at creating websites with python. From your description, you will need to build a directory of entries, a form, and attach it to a database, so that means you also need to understand sql (or something!). You need to display individual records I imagine. Do you need to edit them after they are created? How are you going to manage the accounts? Will you create them? Will you let the visitor create an account? Where will you store the account information? Do different accounts have different permissions? Not to mention security. Frameworks like Django provide protection against things like: * CSRF (Cross Site Request Forgery) * XSS ((X)Cross Site Scripting) * SQL injection As well as others. For a comprehensive list of protection that Django offers, check out https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/security/. -- Demian Brecht @demianbrecht http://demianbrecht.github.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: notmm is dead!
On 10/05/2012 04:43 AM, Etienne Robillard wrote: No. All past notmm licenses were and still ARE ISC licensed. The license fee is simply because I'm shifting into commercial license for new releases, including the newer 0.4.5 version... Pypi was not the authority source for notmm and neither anyone can claim the license was left blank, thats once again a form of plagiarism. Shall anyone is really serious about supporting the work i did then he'll want to pay a minimal fee to get the proper license rights and can contact me off-list if he want to fork a branch to github of google code. Someone certainly could fork any past ISC version and proceed from there. That is simply my point. Without any license fees and without any accusation of plagiarism. Indeed it wouldn't be plagiarism because your name would still be on it, and copyright assigned to you. I don't know what you are talking about with the plagiarism thing. If there indeed was a tarball out there with an empty license file all that would do would be to prevent the downloader from legally doing *anything* with the file. That's all the original poster was saying. We're just trying to be clear on the terms here, not accusing you of anything, nor trying to denigrate all your hard work. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Re: + in regular expression
On 10/05/2012 04:23 AM, Duncan Booth wrote:
A regular expression element may be followed by a quantifier.
Quantifiers are '*', '+', '?', '{n}', '{n,m}' (and lazy quantifiers
'*?', '+?', '{n,m}?'). There's nothing in the regex language which says
you can follow an element with two quantifiers.
In fact, *you* did -- the first sentence of that paragraph! :-)
\s is a regex, so you can follow it with a quantifier and get \s{6}.
That's also a regex, so you should be able to follow it with a quantifier.
I can understand that you can create a grammar that excludes it. I'm
actually really interested to know if anyone knows whether this was a
deliberate decision and, if so, what the reason is. (And if not --
should it be considered a (low priority) bug?)
Was it because such patterns often reveal a mistake? Because \s{6}+
has other meanings in different regex syntaxes and the designers didn't
want confusion? Because it was simpler to parse that way? Because the
hey you recognize regular expressions by converting it to a finite
automaton story is a lie in most real-world regex implementations (in
part because they're not actually regular expressions) and repeated
quantifiers cause problems with the parsing techniques that actually get
used?
Evan
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Re: notmm is dead!
On Oct 4, 2012 6:56 PM, Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com wrote: You probably have a old tarball or something... Not unless you've replaced it since I made my post, as I had just downloaded it to check the license. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: + in regular expression
On 10/05/2012 10:27 AM, Evan Driscoll wrote:
On 10/05/2012 04:23 AM, Duncan Booth wrote:
A regular expression element may be followed by a quantifier.
Quantifiers are '*', '+', '?', '{n}', '{n,m}' (and lazy quantifiers
'*?', '+?', '{n,m}?'). There's nothing in the regex language which says
you can follow an element with two quantifiers.
In fact, *you* did -- the first sentence of that paragraph! :-)
\s is a regex, so you can follow it with a quantifier and get \s{6}.
That's also a regex, so you should be able to follow it with a
quantifier.
OK, I guess this isn't true... you said a regular expression *element*
can be followed by a quantifier. I just took what I usually see as part
of a regular expression and read into your post something it didn't
quite say. Still, the rest of mine applies.
Evan
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RE: When was the last time you did something for the first time?
I learn trigonometry -Original Message- From: Ramchandra Apte [mailto:maniandra...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:03 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: When was the last time you did something for the first time? On Friday, 5 October 2012 16:33:52 UTC+5:30, The Matchmaker wrote: What do you want to talk about today? Nothing. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: notmm is dead!
On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 09:29:39 -0600 Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 4, 2012 6:56 PM, Etienne Robillard animelo...@gmail.com wrote: You probably have a old tarball or something... Not unless you've replaced it since I made my post, as I had just downloaded it to check the license. The 0.4.4 release is old, however, so you might really got a wrong tarball. :-) Cheers, Etienne -- Etienne Robillard Green Tea Hackers Club Fine Software Carpentry For The Rest Of Us! http://gthc.org/ e...@gthcfoundation.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: + in regular expression
On 2012-10-05 16:27, Evan Driscoll wrote:
On 10/05/2012 04:23 AM, Duncan Booth wrote:
A regular expression element may be followed by a quantifier.
Quantifiers are '*', '+', '?', '{n}', '{n,m}' (and lazy quantifiers
'*?', '+?', '{n,m}?'). There's nothing in the regex language which says
you can follow an element with two quantifiers.
In fact, *you* did -- the first sentence of that paragraph! :-)
\s is a regex, so you can follow it with a quantifier and get \s{6}.
That's also a regex, so you should be able to follow it with a quantifier.
I can understand that you can create a grammar that excludes it. I'm
actually really interested to know if anyone knows whether this was a
deliberate decision and, if so, what the reason is. (And if not --
should it be considered a (low priority) bug?)
Was it because such patterns often reveal a mistake? Because \s{6}+
has other meanings in different regex syntaxes and the designers didn't
want confusion? Because it was simpler to parse that way? Because the
hey you recognize regular expressions by converting it to a finite
automaton story is a lie in most real-world regex implementations (in
part because they're not actually regular expressions) and repeated
quantifiers cause problems with the parsing techniques that actually get
used?
You rarely want to repeat a repeated element. It can also result in
catastrophic
backtracking unless you're _very_ careful.
In many other regex implementations (including mine), *+, *+ and
?+ are possessive quantifiers, much as ??, *? and ?? are lazy
quantifiers.
You could, of course, ask why adding ? after a quantifier doesn't
make it optional, e.g. why r\s{6}? doesn't mean the same as
r(?:\s{6})?, or why r\s{0,6}? doesn't mean the same as
r(?:\s{0,6})?.
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Re: [fcgi.py] Force cache upgrade?
Gilles wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:57:14 +0200, Gilles nos...@nospam.com wrote: I guess the FastCGI server (Flup) only updates its cache every so often. Do I need to type a command to force Flup to recompile the Python script? Turns out that, yes, mod_fcgid is configured to reload a script only after some time or some number of hits, Well, that's the whole point of using FastCGI: Have a long-running process for better performance. Ciao, Michael. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
instance.attribute lookup
There is a StackOverflow question [1] that points to this on-line book [2] which has a five-step sequence for looking up attributes: When retrieving an attribute from an object (print objectname.attrname) Python follows these steps: 1. If attrname is a special (i.e. Python-provided) attribute for objectname, return it. 2. Check objectname.__class__.__dict__ for attrname. If it exists and is a data-descriptor, return the descriptor result. Search all bases of objectname.__class__ for the same case. 3. Check objectname.__dict__ for attrname, and return if found. If objectname is a class, search its bases too. If it is a class and a descriptor exists in it or its bases, return the descriptor result. 4. Check objectname.__class__.__dict__ for attrname. If it exists and is a non-data descriptor, return the descriptor result. If it exists, and is not a descriptor, just return it. If it exists and is a data descriptor, we shouldn't be here because we would have returned at point 2. Search all bases of objectname.__class__ for same case. 5. Raise AttributeError I'm thinking step 1 is flat-out wrong and doesn't exist. Does anybody know otherwise? ~Ethan~ [1] http://stackoverflow.com/q/10536539/208880 [2] http://www.cafepy.com/article/python_attributes_and_methods/ch01s05.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On 10/5/2012 9:47 AM, Mike wrote: On Friday, October 5, 2012 9:41:44 AM UTC-4, Ramchandra Apte wrote: On Friday, 5 October 2012 19:09:15 UTC+5:30, Mike wrote: On Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:52:50 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote: Hi All, I am new to python and am getting the data from hbase. If you want as many people as possible to read your posts, stop using a mail-agent and site that spits in the face of readers by doubling blank lines each iteration. Alternatives have been discussed previously. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
calendar from python to html
hi, I enter a calendar in an html page in each calendar day, I enter a time that is used by the program to perform actions with python What can I use to do this? thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Mike mike20...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry about that. Here you go Traceback (most recent call last): File test.py, line 17, in module total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) File test.py, line 17, in genexpr total = sum(float(col.value) for r in iter(next_r, None) for col in r[0].columns.itervalues()) IndexError: list index out of range Maybe the sentinel value is not None as I assumed, and it's overrunning the end of the data? What does client.scannerGet return when there is no more data? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Are ABCs an anti-pattern?
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 07:23:05AM -0700, Demian Brecht wrote: I don't use them anymore, but I'm curious about others opinions on this list... I like them. In particular, I like that I can enumerate all the subclasses that happen to implement the ABC via the metaclass's __subclasses__() method. I also like that I can trust Python not to instantiate a subclass of an ABC unless it meets all the interface criteria I've stipulated. Both of these aspects make ABCs a great fit when your base classes will be subclassed by other users/libraries (i.e. that you have no control over). For example, I use them in a project of mine called Enversion in order to automatically generate command-line scaffolding with as little effort (programming/typing-wise as possible). The ABC stuff lives in 'evn.cli' and provides a set of generic classes for command-line tools. One of the command line tools that ships with Enversion is the 'evnadmin' command. Thanks to all the ABC scaffolding in the 'evn.cli/command' module, all I need to write is the following to get an 'evnadmin' command-line interface: from evn.cli import ( CLI, CommandLine, ) class AdminCommandLine(CommandLine): @property def commands_module(self): return evn.admin.commands class AdminCLI(CLI): @property def program_name(self): return 'evnadmin' @property def commandline_subclasses(self): return AdminCommandLine.__subclasses__() class DoctestCommandLine(AdminCommandLine): _quiet_ = True class DumpDefaultConfigCommandLine(AdminCommandLine): pass class DumpConfigCommandLine(AdminCommandLine): _conf_ = True class ShowConfigFileLoadOrderCommandLine(AdminCommandLine): _conf_ = True class DumpHookCodeCommandLine(AdminCommandLine): _conf_ = True _repo_ = True [snip] Running 'evnadmin' with no arguments yields this: % evnadmin Type 'evnadmin subcommand help' for help on a specific subcommand. Available subcommands: analyze create disable-remote-debug (drd) doctest dump-config (dc) dump-default-config (ddc) dump-hook-code (dhc) enable enable-remote-debug (erd) find-merges (fm) fix-hooks (fh) root-info (ri) run-hook (rh) show-config-file-load-order (scflo) show-repo-hook-status (srhs) show-repo-remote-debug-sessions (srrds) show-roots (sr) toggle-remote-debug (trd) version The scaffolding can generate all of that automatically thanks to the ability to enumerate __subclasses__() of a metaclass. The fact that Python will bomb out if a derived class doesn't implement all the required methods/properties is icing on the cake. When you are expecting other developers to leverage your ABCs, getting instant feedback when you forget to implement a required method/property is incredibly useful. It's definitely not a case of battling the design decisions made by the ABC author... Relevant Python files: https://github.com/tpn/enversion/blob/master/evn/cli.py https://github.com/tpn/enversion/blob/master/evn/admin/cli.py Regards, Trent. Demian Brecht @demianbrecht http://demianbrecht.github.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
I added the print command. It prints [] when there is no data. Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: notmm is dead!
Steven D'Aprano wrote: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:22 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: notmm is dead! On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:10:46 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: Dear list, Due to lack of energy and resources i'm really sad to announce the removal of notmm from pypi and bitbucket. Well that's just rude. Even if you don't intend to maintain the software any more, why are you removing it from pypi? Since you say you are a fan of Open Source software, just flag it as unmaintained and leave it for somebody else to pick up. If you are going to abandon the project, release it on PyPI with a dual MIT and GPL licence, and let it be taken over by somebody else. If you were looking for sympathy here, starting off by removing your project from free hosting, then complaining that you can't pay for the non-free hosting, was NOT the right way to do so. I might be misunderstanding, but I think Etienne wants money in exchange for letting someone else take over. By the way, the latest version of notmm (0.4.4) has an empty licence file. No licence means that everyone using it is unlicenced and therefore infringing your copyright. This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
Terry, I am not using the mail client. I am just posting on the site. Something wrong with this site. When you do individual reply, it does the double posting which it shouldn't. See Ramachandra Apte's reply. It is posted twice too. Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Mike mike20...@gmail.com wrote: I added the print command. It prints [] when there is no data. Change iter(next_r, None) to iter(next_r, []) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
fmap(), inverse of Python map() function
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Re: sum function
On 10/05/2012 04:09 PM, Mike wrote: Terry, I am not using the mail client. I am just posting on the site. And which site would that be (that you're using)? There are a few. I'm guessing you use google-groups. And all of them get gatewayed to the actual list, with differing numbers of bugs. I use email to access it directly. I solve one of the duplicate-message problems with google groups by automatically deleting any message addressed to google-groups. There are about 100 such messages each month. Another problem is that lots of these gateways post to both the newsgroup and to the python-list. Something wrong with this site. When you do individual reply, it does the double posting which it shouldn't. See Ramachandra Apte's reply. It is posted twice too. Thanks -- DaveA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: sum function
That worked, Ian. Thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: fmap(), inverse of Python map() function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM, vasudevram vasudev...@gmail.com wrote: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2012/10/fmap-inverse-of-python-map-function.html Your fmap is a special case of reduce. def fmap(functions, argument): return reduce(lambda result, func: func(result), functions, argument) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: fmap(), inverse of Python map() function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM, vasudevram vasudev...@gmail.com wrote: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2012/10/fmap-inverse-of-python-map-function.html Your fmap is a special case of reduce. def fmap(functions, argument): return reduce(lambda result, func: func(result), functions, argument) In a more functional style, you could also use reduce to compose the functions before applying them: def compose(f, g): return lambda x: f(g(x)) def fmap(functions): return reduce(compose, reversed(functions)) # Allowing you to then do: result = fmap(functions)(argument) Cheers, Ian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Job
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Executing untrusted scripts in a sandboxed environment
Hi all, I need to execute untrusted scripts in my Python application. To avoid security issues, I want to use a sandboxed environment. This means that the script authors have no access to the file system. They may only access objects, modules and classes that are flagged or approved for scripting. I read that I will not be able to do this with Python scripts. (See SandboxedPython page in the Python wiki [0] and several SE.com questions, e. g. [1].) So my question is: What is the best way to embed a script engine in a sandboxed environment that has access to the Python modules and classes that I provide? Thanks for your help. Best regards, Robin [0] http://wiki.python.org/moin/SandboxedPython [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3068139/how-can-i-sandbox-python-in-pure-python -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: fmap(), inverse of Python map() function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM, vasudevram vasudev...@gmail.com wrote: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2012/10/fmap-inverse-of-python-map-function.html Your fmap is a special case of reduce. So is map. def map(f, seq): return reduce( lambda rseq, newpre: rseq.append(f(newpre)) or rseq, seq, []) X is a special case of reduce is basically the same as saying X can be implemented using a for loop. If it's meant as a complaint, it's a poor one. -- Devin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: instance.attribute lookup
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:39:53 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote: There is a StackOverflow question [1] that points to this on-line book [2] which has a five-step sequence for looking up attributes: When retrieving an attribute from an object (print objectname.attrname) Python follows these steps: 1. If attrname is a special (i.e. Python-provided) attribute for objectname, return it. [...] I'm thinking step 1 is flat-out wrong and doesn't exist. Does anybody know otherwise? I'm thinking I don't even understand what step 1 means. What's a Python-provided attribute, and how is it different from other attributes? -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: instance.attribute lookup
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:39:53 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote: There is a StackOverflow question [1] that points to this on-line book [2] which has a five-step sequence for looking up attributes: When retrieving an attribute from an object (print objectname.attrname) Python follows these steps: 1. If attrname is a special (i.e. Python-provided) attribute for objectname, return it. [...] I'm thinking step 1 is flat-out wrong and doesn't exist. Does anybody know otherwise? I'm thinking I don't even understand what step 1 means. What's a Python-provided attribute, and how is it different from other attributes? Well, if /you/ don't understand it I feel a lot better about not understanding it either! :) Glad to know I'm not missing something (besides ESP, a crystal ball, and a mind-reader!) ~Ethan~ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: fmap(), inverse of Python map() function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Devin Jeanpierre jeanpierr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:19 PM, vasudevram vasudev...@gmail.com wrote: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/2012/10/fmap-inverse-of-python-map-function.html Your fmap is a special case of reduce. So is map. I realize that. My point is that the function *feels* more like a variant of reduce than of map. If it's meant as a complaint, it's a poor one. It's not. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: instance.attribute lookup
Am 05.10.2012 19:39, schrieb Ethan Furman: I'm thinking step 1 is flat-out wrong and doesn't exist. Does anybody know otherwise? The answer is confusing and also wrong. For instance it ignores the existence of __slots__, metaclasses and the different lookup strategy of __special__ methods in old style and new style classes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: instance.attribute lookup
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote: There is a StackOverflow question [1] that points to this on-line book [2] which has a five-step sequence for looking up attributes: When retrieving an attribute from an object (print objectname.attrname) Python follows these steps: 1. If attrname is a special (i.e. Python-provided) attribute for objectname, return it. 2. Check objectname.__class__.__dict__ for attrname. If it exists and is a data-descriptor, return the descriptor result. Search all bases of objectname.__class__ for the same case. 3. Check objectname.__dict__ for attrname, and return if found. If objectname is a class, search its bases too. If it is a class and a descriptor exists in it or its bases, return the descriptor result. 4. Check objectname.__class__.__dict__ for attrname. If it exists and is a non-data descriptor, return the descriptor result. If it exists, and is not a descriptor, just return it. If it exists and is a data descriptor, we shouldn't be here because we would have returned at point 2. Search all bases of objectname.__class__ for same case. 5. Raise AttributeError I'm thinking step 1 is flat-out wrong and doesn't exist. Does anybody know otherwise? I think step 1 refers to looking up attributes like foo.__class__ or foo.__dict__ themselves. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: instance.attribute lookup
On 06/10/2012 00:12, Ethan Furman wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:39:53 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote: There is a StackOverflow question [1] that points to this on-line book [2] which has a five-step sequence for looking up attributes: When retrieving an attribute from an object (print objectname.attrname) Python follows these steps: 1. If attrname is a special (i.e. Python-provided) attribute for objectname, return it. [...] I'm thinking step 1 is flat-out wrong and doesn't exist. Does anybody know otherwise? I'm thinking I don't even understand what step 1 means. What's a Python-provided attribute, and how is it different from other attributes? Well, if /you/ don't understand it I feel a lot better about not understanding it either! :) Glad to know I'm not missing something (besides ESP, a crystal ball, and a mind-reader!) ~Ethan~ My probably highly uneducated guess is that Python-provided attribute refers to double underscore names. YMMV by several trillion light years :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: fmap(), inverse of Python map() function
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com wrote: I realize that. My point is that the function *feels* more like a variant of reduce than of map. If it's meant as a complaint, it's a poor one. It's not. Fair enough all around. Sorry for misunderstanding. -- Devin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: + in regular expression
On 05Oct2012 10:27, Evan Driscoll drisc...@cs.wisc.edu wrote:
| I can understand that you can create a grammar that excludes it. [...]
| Was it because such patterns often reveal a mistake?
For myself, I would consider that sufficient reason.
I've seen plenty of languages (C and shell, for example, though they
are not alone or egrarious) where a compiler can emit a syntax complaint
many lines from the actual coding mistake (in shell, an unclosed quote
or control construct is a common examplei; Python has the same issue
but mitigated by the indentation requirements which cut the occurence
down a lot).
Forbidding a common error by requiring a wordier workaround isn't
unreasonable.
| Because \s{6}+
| has other meanings in different regex syntaxes and the designers didn't
| want confusion?
I think Python REs are supposed to be Perl compatible; ISTR an opening
sentence to that effect...
| Because it was simpler to parse that way? Because the
| hey you recognize regular expressions by converting it to a finite
| automaton story is a lie in most real-world regex implementations (in
| part because they're not actually regular expressions) and repeated
| quantifiers cause problems with the parsing techniques that actually get
| used?
There are certainly constructs that can cause an exponential amount
of backtracking is misused. One could make a case for discouragement
(though not a case for forbidding them).
Just my 2c,
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Problems building Python from hg trunk on Open SUSE
I haven't messed around with Python 3 recently, so decided to give it a whirl again. I cloned the trunk (cpython) and set about it. This is on an OpenSUSE 12.1 system. I configured like so: ./configure --prefix=/home/skipm/.linux-local and ran the usual make ; make install. I'm a bit perplexed about how it is installed. Instead of installing shared objects in /home/skipm/.linux-local/lib/python3.4/lib-dynload they were installed in /home/skipm/.linux-local/lib64/python3.4/lib-dynload (note the lib64 vs. lib). This would be fine, except sys.path doesn't include the lib64 version of this path: % PYTHONPATH= PYTHONSTARTUP= ~/.linux-local/bin/python3.4 -S Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix] Python 3.4.0a0 (default:26200f535296, Oct 3 2012, 12:48:07) [GCC 4.4.6 [TWW]] on linux import sys sys.path ['', '', '/home/skipm/.linux-local/lib/python34.zip', '/home/skipm/.linux-local/lib/python3.4/', '/home/skipm/.linux-local/lib/python3.4/plat-linux', '/home/skipm/.linux-local/lib/lib-dynload'] I see the message about setting PYTHONHOME. (That happens to be bad advice as sys.prefix and sys.exec_prefix are identical in this case.) What I don't understand is why directories containing lib64 are not in sys.path by default, given that that's where make install put things. GCC is as delivered by The Written Word. (This is a work computer. The powers that be settled on TWW awhile ago for packaging all open source software we use on Linux and Solaris, thus removing a headache from our support staff.) It is: % gcc --version gcc (GCC) 4.4.6 [TWW] Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. The architecture looks like this: % uname -a Linux udesktop264 3.1.0-1.2-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Nov 3 14:45:45 UTC 2011 (187dde0) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux I don't see anything in the output of ./configure --help which relates to 64-bit install directories, though I do see some lines in config.log about guessing the architecture. Some cursory googling didn't turn up any promising web pages, and I didn't find anything in the various documentation files in the repo related to building Python. Any suggestions about how to resolve this would be appreciated. Thx, Skip -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Coexistence of Python 2.x and 3.x on same OS
On 10/5/2012 5:32 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 08:15:30 -0400, Edward Diener eldiener@tropicsoft.invalid declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Windows installs of Python do not distinguish releases by Pythonx(.x) but just install different versions of Python in different directories. Really? E:\Python27dir Volume in drive E is Data Volume Serial Number is 2626-D991 Directory of E:\Python27 08/28/2012 05:32 PMDIR . 08/28/2012 05:32 PMDIR .. 08/28/2012 02:11 PMDIR DLLs 08/28/2012 05:43 PMDIR Doc 08/28/2012 02:11 PMDIR include 08/31/2012 04:58 PMDIR Lib 08/28/2012 02:11 PMDIR libs 08/28/2012 02:15 PM 108,255 matplotlib-wininst.log 08/28/2012 02:18 PM 4,169 MySQL-python-wininst.log 08/28/2012 02:15 PM98,498 numpy-wininst.log 08/28/2012 02:20 PM17,816 PIL-wininst.log 08/28/2012 03:29 PM 1,572 PyOpenGL-accelerate-wininst.log 08/28/2012 03:38 PM 3,009 pyserial-wininst.log 06/24/2011 12:38 PM27,136 python.exe 06/24/2011 12:38 PM27,136 python2.7.exe 06/24/2011 12:38 PM27,136 python2.exe 08/28/2012 05:32 PM90,943 PythonCard-wininst.log 06/24/2011 12:38 PM27,136 pythonw.exe 06/24/2011 12:38 PM27,136 pythonw2.7.exe 06/24/2011 12:38 PM27,136 pythonw2.exe That's, as you say, ActievState. The normal Python installer does not create a python2.7.exe etc. But of course I can create any links I want, so that's not really the problem. The major difficulty is that prior to invoking either python directly or a script with a normal Python file association, I want to be able to specify which version of Python should be invoked as the default without having to specifically invoke a partiocular version by typing 'python2.7 ...' or 'python3.3 ...' etc. 08/28/2012 02:15 PM 196,096 Removematplotlib.exe 08/28/2012 02:18 PM 196,096 RemoveMySQL-python.exe 08/28/2012 02:15 PM 196,096 Removenumpy.exe 08/28/2012 02:20 PM 196,096 RemovePIL.exe 08/28/2012 03:29 PM 196,096 RemovePyOpenGL-accelerate.exe 08/28/2012 03:38 PM 196,096 Removepyserial.exe 08/28/2012 05:32 PM61,440 RemovePythonCard.exe 08/28/2012 02:20 PM 196,096 Removereportlab.exe 08/28/2012 02:19 PM 196,096 Removescipy.exe 08/28/2012 05:29 PM 196,096 RemoveWConio.exe 08/28/2012 02:20 PM40,362 reportlab-wininst.log 08/28/2012 02:19 PM 159,420 scipy-wininst.log 08/28/2012 05:32 PMDIR Scripts 08/28/2012 02:11 PMDIR tcl 08/28/2012 02:11 PMDIR Tools 11/28/2007 04:32 PM 258,352 unicows.dll 06/24/2011 12:38 PM49,664 w9xpopen.exe 08/28/2012 05:29 PM 891 WConio-wininst.log 28 File(s) 2,822,071 bytes 10 Dir(s) 148,557,684,736 bytes free E:\Python27 That's what was set up by a recent ActiveState installer (well, recent for me -- I'd still been using 2.5 three months ago) Yes, it IS in a version numbered directory, but there are copies of the executable named as plain python, pythonX, and pythonX.Y E:\Python27cd %homepath% E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documentspython ActivePython 2.7.2.5 (ActiveState Software Inc.) based on Python 2.7.2 (default, Jun 24 2011, 12:21:10) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. ^Z E:\UserData\Wulfraed\My Documentspython2.7 ActivePython 2.7.2.5 (ActiveState Software Inc.) based on Python 2.7.2 (default, Jun 24 2011, 12:21:10) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. Granted, one would need to have each installation directory in the PATH, ordered such that the preferred version would be found first when using just python. There is much more than just the PATH needed to change to have a different Python be the default. File associations also. I thnk there are more things too, but I know it has always been difficult on Windows to easily change which distribution is called when python is executed or some Python file association is executed. I welcome the new Python launcher for Windows mentioned but have not had a chance to use it and see how it works yet. I will try it this weekend and hopefully it will work well to solve the problem of having multiple Python installations installed on Windows at the same time, and being able to easily specify the one I want invoked. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Problems building Python from hg trunk on Open SUSE
In article canc-5uwg-dgcrtkax-xwri4j4sb2gjvtgn2qszj0qxe--v7...@mail.gmail.com, Skip Montanaro s...@pobox.com wrote: I haven't messed around with Python 3 recently, so decided to give it a whirl again. I cloned the trunk (cpython) and set about it. This is on an OpenSUSE 12.1 system. I configured like so: [...] Any suggestions about how to resolve this would be appreciated. It looks like you're running into the problems described in: http://bugs.python.org/issue15631 -- Ned Deily, n...@acm.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: notmm is dead!
Prasad, Ramit於 2012年10月6日星期六UTC+8上午4時06分31秒寫道： Steven D'Aprano wrote: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:22 PM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: notmm is dead! On Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:10:46 -0400, Etienne Robillard wrote: Dear list, Due to lack of energy and resources i'm really sad to announce the removal of notmm from pypi and bitbucket. Well that's just rude. Even if you don't intend to maintain the software any more, why are you removing it from pypi? Since you say you are a fan of Open Source software, just flag it as unmaintained and leave it for somebody else to pick up. If you are going to abandon the project, release it on PyPI with a dual MIT and GPL licence, and let it be taken over by somebody else. If you were looking for sympathy here, starting off by removing your project from free hosting, then complaining that you can't pay for the non-free hosting, was NOT the right way to do so. I might be misunderstanding, but I think Etienne wants money in exchange for letting someone else take over. By the way, the latest version of notmm (0.4.4) has an empty licence file. No licence means that everyone using it is unlicenced and therefore infringing your copyright. This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. I think it is OK to have some string attatched in those open source projects. Nowadays the software industry is just like the perfume and prtinting and the audio-video entaertainment industry. The replication cost is so low. Don't forget the lawsuites in Facebook about the participants charged the founder in the courts. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: calendar from python to html
Well, you need a web server, a webpage, a database (could just be a
file), a cgi script, and the datetime module. Optionally, you can use a
web framework like CherryPy or Django, which covers a lot of these by
itself.
I only know Python 2, but here are some examples:
A basic web server:
webdir = '.'
port = 80
import os, sys
from BaseHTTPServer import HTTPServer
from CGIHTTPServer import CGIHTTPRequestHandler
if len(sys.argv) 1: webdir = sys.argv[1]
if len(sys.argv) 2: port = int(sys.argv[2])
print 'webdir %s, port %s' % (webdir, port)
#Windows only hack
if sys.platform[:3] == 'win':
CGIHTTPRequestHandler.have_popen2 = False
CGIHTTPRequestHandler.have_popen3 = False
sys.path.append('cgi-bin')
os.chdir(webdir)
srvraddr = (, port)
srvrobj = HTTPServer(srvraddr, CGIHTTPRequestHandler)
srvrobj.serve_forever()
Start the script in the same directory as the cgi script and HTML.
Assuming you have a file that holds '1' time per date, you could
write a program to pickle and unpickle dictionaries that
are derived from form data:
import pickle
import cgi
file = open('dates.pkl', 'rb')
mydates = pickle.load(file)
file.close()
html =
html
body
h1Schedule/h1
form method=POST action=yourscript.py
table border=1
tr
tdinput type=text name=april01 value=%(april01)s/td
tdinput type=text name=april02 value=%(april02)s/td
/tr
tr
tdinput type=text name=april03 value=%(april03)s/td
tdinput type=text name=april04 value=%(april04)s/td
/tr
/table
input type=hidden name=submitted value=done
pinput type=submit
/form
/body
/html
dates = ['april01', 'april02', 'april03', 'april04']
if form.has_key('submitted'):
newdates = {}
for d in dates:
if form.has_key(d):
newdates[d] = form[d].value
else:
newdates[d] = ''
mydates = newdates
output = open('dates.pkl', 'wb')
pickle.dump(mydates, output)
output.close()
else:
for d in dates:
if not mydates.has_key(d):
mydates[d] = ''
print html % mydates
Then you could write an additional program that runs
in the background or something:
import pickle
from datetime import date, datetime
mycode = 'print Hello World!'
file = open('dates.pkl', 'rb')
mydates = pickle.load(file)
file.close()
while True:
today = date.today()
if today.month == 4 and today.day == 01:
hour = datetime.time(datetime.now()).hour
min = datetime.time(datetime.now()).minute
if hour == int(mydates['april04'][0]) and min ==
int(mydates['april04'][-2:]):
exec mycode
_exec_ executes a Python string like a program. To execute an actual
python script use subprocess instead:
import subprocess
subprocess.call([python, myscript.py])
Hope this helps.
On 10/05/2012 11:55 AM, Luca Sanna wrote:
hi,
I enter a calendar in an html page
in each calendar day, I enter a time that is used by the program to perform
actions with python
What can I use to do this?
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Re: notmm is dead!
On 10/05/2012 07:43 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: I think it is OK to have some string attatched in those open source projects. What are you talking about? What string? Nowadays the software industry is just like the perfume and prtinting and the audio-video entaertainment industry. True The replication cost is so low. Don't forget the lawsuites in Facebook about the participants charged the founder in the courts. What do lawsuits have to do with replication costs? I suppose a person can fail a turing test... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
write binary with struct.pack_into
Dear pythonists,
I'm having a problem with read/write binary in python.
I have a binary file that I need to read information, extract a array,
modify this array and put these values into file again in same binary
format.
I need to use unpack_from and pack_into because sometimes gonna need
read/write in the middle of file.
Script:
import struct
bloco='%df' %(252) #Binary format
# READ
fa=open('testIN.bin')
my_array=struct.unpack_from(bloco,fa.read()[0*4:251*4])# my_aray = 252
elements array
## This read is OK!
#WRITE
fb=open('testOUT.bin')
test=struct.pack_into(bloco,fb.write()[0*4:251*4]) # ERROR in this WRITE
Regards,
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Re: write binary with struct.pack_into
palmeira於 2012年10月6日星期六UTC+8上午11時27分47秒寫道：
Dear pythonists,
I'm having a problem with read/write binary in python.
I have a binary file that I need to read information, extract a array,
modify this array and put these values into file again in same binary
format.
I need to use unpack_from and pack_into because sometimes gonna need
read/write in the middle of file.
Script:
import struct
bloco='%df' %(252) #Binary format
# READ
fa=open('testIN.bin')
my_array=struct.unpack_from(bloco,fa.read()[0*4:251*4])# my_aray = 252
elements array
## This read is OK!
#WRITE
fb=open('testOUT.bin')
test=struct.pack_into(bloco,fb.write()[0*4:251*4]) # ERROR in this WRITE
Regards,
Ronaldo Palmeira.
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Are you writing and reading files produce by different
languages?
The pickle part is better for OOP and glue logics in python.
The heavy computing part should be done in CYTHON.
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Re: notmm is dead!
On Saturday, 6 October 2012 08:29:02 UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote: On 10/05/2012 07:43 PM, 8 Dihedral wrote: I think it is OK to have some string attatched in those open source projects. What are you talking about? What string? Nowadays the software industry is just like the perfume and prtinting and the audio-video entaertainment industry. True The replication cost is so low. Don't forget the lawsuites in Facebook about the participants charged the founder in the courts. What do lawsuits have to do with replication costs? I suppose a person can fail a turing test... You are talking to a bot. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue16112] platform.architecture does not correctly escape argument to /usr/bin/file
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: Jesús Cea Avión wrote: Jesús Cea Avión added the comment: Thanks for the heads-up, Victor. I have added Marc-Andre Lemburg to the nosy list, so he can know about this issue and can provide feedback (or request a backout for 2.7). Marc-Andre?. The comment that Viktor posted still stands for Python 2.7. You can use subprocess in platform for Python 2.7, but only if it's available. Otherwise the module must fall back to the portable popen() that comes with the platform module. It may be worth adding that selection process to the popen() function in platform itself. For Python 3.x, you can use subprocess. Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 05 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2012-09-27: Released eGenix PyRun 1.1.0 ... http://egenix.com/go35 2012-09-26: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.1 ... http://egenix.com/go34 2012-09-25: Released mxODBC 3.2.1 ... http://egenix.com/go33 2012-10-23: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... 18 days to go eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16112 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue11678] Add support for Arch Linux to platform.linux_distributions()
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: Éric Araujo wrote: Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment: Feature freeze just came by; sorry we missed this. Given our recent-ish discussion about additions to mimetypes (and the consensus (IIRC) that matching the IANA database can be considered a bug fix), I wonder if detecting more OSes in platform should be considered a new feature. On one end we have mimetypes when there is just a dictionary update with no risk, on the other end we have ports to new OSes which clearly are new features; I think platform is on the fence, maybe just a bit on the new feature side. I'm fine with adding new OS support to platform in bugfix releases. The idea is to support as many platforms as possible and if a popular one is missing, that's a bug. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 05 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2012-09-27: Released eGenix PyRun 1.1.0 ... http://egenix.com/go35 2012-09-26: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.1 ... http://egenix.com/go34 2012-09-25: Released mxODBC 3.2.1 ... http://egenix.com/go33 2012-10-23: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... 18 days to go eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue11678 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16112] platform.architecture does not correctly escape argument to /usr/bin/file
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: The implementation of platform.architecture shells out to the file command. It tries to escape quotes by replacing with \, but that's not sufficient. $ python3.2 -c 'import platform; platform.architecture(foo\\\; echo Hi there /tmp/Z; echo \\\)' cat /tmp/Z Hi there Here's a patch to make it use subprocess instead. I haven't tested it thoroughly building everything from trunk and running tests, but I verified it works by replacing the platform.py in my system Python install. I think a much better patch would be to test for existence of the file in question. File names rarely use any of the mentioned quoting and most certainly not for an executable, so if the check fails, that's a good indication that something is not right. Perhaps such a check could be added in addition to the other things in the patch ? BTW: It's probably better to discuss such patches on the tracker first, before applying them to the code base. It becomes difficult discussing patches that have already been partially applied to the code. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 05 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2012-09-27: Released eGenix PyRun 1.1.0 ... http://egenix.com/go35 2012-09-26: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.1 ... http://egenix.com/go34 2012-09-25: Released mxODBC 3.2.1 ... http://egenix.com/go33 2012-10-23: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... 18 days to go eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16112 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16140] subprocess.Popen the os.close calls in _execute_child can raise an EBADF exception
New submission from Gregory P. Smith:
Ben Leslie writes this on python-dev:
Hi all,
I have a Python program where I have many threads each calling Popen, and I was
hitting some trouble.
I've been seeing this on 3.2.3, however I believe the same issue is still
potentially a problem on head.
The error manifests itself when a call to os.close(errpipe_read) fails with
EBADF
(http://hg.python.org/releasing/3.2.3/file/86d1421a552c/Lib/subprocess.py#l1314)
I believe the root cause of this problem is due to a double close() on a
different file descriptor (which is then reused as errpipe_read).
The file descriptors: p2cwrite, c2pread and errread are all closed at the end
of the _execute_child method:
http://hg.python.org/releasing/3.2.3/file/86d1421a552c/Lib/subprocess.py#l1351
However, these filedescriptors are wrapped up into file objects during __init__
(see:
http://hg.python.org/releasing/3.2.3/file/86d1421a552c/Lib/subprocess.py#l725)
As far as I can tell at the point where the garbage collector kicks in
Popen.{stdin,stdout,stderr} all go out of scope, and will be deallocated, and
the underlying filedescriptor closed.
However because the filedescriptor is already closed, and by this time is
actually reused, this deallocation closes what ends up being an incorrect
file-descriptor.
Since closing a file object where the underlying fd is already closed is
silenced
(http://hg.python.org/releasing/3.2.3/file/86d1421a552c/Modules/_io/iobase.c#l235)
this would not normally be very apparent.
This race between a new filedescriptor being allocated and the garbage
collector deallocating the file descriptors certainly hits when using a few
threads, but I guess depending on the exact behaviour of the garbage collector
it could potentially also occur in a single threaded case as well.
I think a fix would be to remove the explicit close of these file descriptors
at the end of _execute_child, and let the garbage collector close them. Of
course that may leak file descriptors, if the GC doesn't kick in for a while,
so the other option would be to close the file object, rather than just the
file descriptor.
Hopefully someone more intimately familiar with the module can point me in the
right direction to verify this, and provide a fix.
Thanks,
Benno
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title: subprocess.Popen the os.close calls in _execute_child can raise an EBADF
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type: behavior
versions: Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4
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[issue16140] subprocess.Popen the os.close calls in _execute_child can raise an EBADF exception
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[issue16129] No good way to set 'PYTHONIOENCODING' when embedding python.
Marc-Andre Lemburg added the comment: IMHO either of these solutions would be fine. * have a PyOS_PutEnv() function, gettext has gettext_putenv() to workaround this problem. This solution would help in many other cases as well, so adding such an API would certainly help more than specialized interfaces. * manage this the same as Py_GetPythonHome(), which can be defined by the embedding application to override the default. I think you meant Py_SetPythonHome(). Given that the IO encoding is very important for Python 3.x, a special API just for setting the encoding may be useful to have as well. Care must be taken, though, that the encoding cannot be set after Py_Initialize() has been called. It may overall be easier to go with the PyOS_PutEnv() solution to not run into the problems with having to check for an initialized interpreter first. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Oct 05 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2012-09-27: Released eGenix PyRun 1.1.0 ... http://egenix.com/go35 2012-09-26: Released mxODBC.Connect 2.0.1 ... http://egenix.com/go34 2012-09-25: Released mxODBC 3.2.1 ... http://egenix.com/go33 2012-10-23: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... 18 days to go eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16129 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16112] platform.architecture does not correctly escape argument to /usr/bin/file
STINNER Victor added the comment: 1.7 -with open(DEV_NULL) as dev_null: 1.8 -proc = subprocess.Popen(['file', '-b', '--', target], 1.9 -stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=dev_null) 1.9 +proc = subprocess.Popen(['file', target], 1.10 +stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.STDOUT) Errors should be ignored, not written into stderr. subprocess.DEVNULL was added to Python 3.3, in older version you have to manually call open the DEV_NULL file. (Oh by the way, it should be opened in write mode for stderr, not in read mode!?) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16112 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16140] subprocess.Popen the os.close calls in _execute_child can raise an EBADF exception
Gregory P. Smith added the comment: What you've described makes sense. The file descriptors are indeed conditionally wrapped in file objects using io.open which could lead to a double close in the error case in a threaded application. yuck. 1) The code needs to check if the fd was wrapped before calling os.close() on it. It could do this by checking the sys.stdin, sys.stdout and sys.stderr attributes respectively for each fd. 2) another option that is a little more clear code wise as it doesn't try to use an implied connection between the stdin/stdout/strerr attributes would be to _always_ wrap the fd's that this can happen to in an io object (regardless of if they've been assigned to the stdin/stdout/stderr attributes) and pass those to _execute_child. Their .fileno() method can be used for the value to pass to _posixsubprocess.fork_exec(). And the os.close on those would turn into a close method call which won't allow double close EBADF errors. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16140 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16112] platform.architecture does not correctly escape argument to /usr/bin/file
STINNER Victor added the comment: You can use subprocess in platform for Python 2.7, but only if it's available. Otherwise the module must fall back to the portable popen() that comes with the platform module. Marc-Andre: I still don't understand why you want to run platform.py of Python 2.7 on older Python version? How does it happen? I expected Python 2.3 to use its own version of platform.py. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16112 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16112] platform.architecture does not correctly escape argument to /usr/bin/file
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[issue16109] urllib2.urlopen throws HTTP Error in python 2.7.2, 2.7.3, but not in python 2.7
Christian Fertig added the comment:
ok, here's a run with debuglevel for the headers:
python 2.7 on openSuSE 11.4:
fertig@hornisse:/home/fertig python
Python 2.7 (r27:82500, Aug 07 2010, 16:54:59) [GCC] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import urllib2
request = urllib2.Request('https://172.23.6.222')
opener = urllib2.build_opener(urllib2.HTTPSHandler(debuglevel=111))
feeddata = opener.open(request).read()
send: 'GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nAccept-Encoding: identity\r\nHost:
172.23.6.222\r\nConnection: close\r\nUser-Agent: Python-urllib/2.7\r\n\r\n'
reply: 'HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n'
header: Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:46:33 GMT
header: Server: Virata-EmWeb/R6_2_0
header: Connection: close
header: Transfer-Encoding: chunked
header: Content-Type: text/html
header: Expires: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:46:33 GMT
header: Last-Modified: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:46:33 GMT
header: Cache-Control: no-cache
python 2.7.2 on openSuSE 12.1:
fertig@wespe:/home/fertig python
Python 2.7.2 (default, Aug 19 2011, 20:41:43) [GCC] on linux2
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import urllib2
request = urllib2.Request('https://172.23.6.222')
opener = urllib2.build_opener(urllib2.HTTPSHandler(debuglevel=111))
feeddata = opener.open(request).read()
urllib2.Request instance at 0x90d878
send: 'GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nAccept-Encoding: identity\r\nHost:
172.23.6.222\r\nConnection: close\r\nUser-Agent: Python-urllib/2.7\r\n\r\n'
reply: 'HTTP/1.1 405 Method Not Allowed\r\n'
header: Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 09:44:11 GMT
header: Server: Virata-EmWeb/R6_2_0
header: Connection: close
Traceback (most recent call last):
File stdin, line 1, in module
File /usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 401, in open
response = meth(req, response)
File /usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 514, in http_response
'http', request, response, code, msg, hdrs)
File /usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 439, in error
return self._call_chain(*args)
File /usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 372, in _call_chain
result = func(*args)
File /usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py, line 522, in http_error_default
raise HTTPError(req.get_full_url(), code, msg, hdrs, fp)
urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 405: Method Not Allowed
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[issue16109] urllib2.urlopen throws HTTP Error in python 2.7.2, 2.7.3, but not in python 2.7
Christian Fertig added the comment: the IP is private and even for testing I can't put it in a public IP range, as the device is an IP Phone with a custom firmware (Siemens optiPoint 420). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16109 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16123] IDLE - deprecate running without a subprocess
Ned Deily added the comment: A popup menu on every invocation of IDLE would be a very user-unfriendly thing to do. If it's possible that a print to stderr might not be visible to a user, another solution might be to use the approach in Lib/idlelib/macosxSupport.py tkVersionWarning which causes the warning message to show up in the PyShell window. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16123 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16136] Removal of VMS support
Charles-François Natali added the comment: After the blog post, Mathew, Sandeep from HP asked how to help: It was more than a year ago. Has something actually be done? -- nosy: +neologix ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16136 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16139] Python 3.3 fails when starting from read-only FS
Richard Oudkerk added the comment: This is more or less a duplicate of #15833 (although the errno mentioned there is EIO instead of the more sensible EROFS). -- nosy: +sbt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16139 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16116] Can not install C extension modules to inside a venv on Python 3.3.0 for Win32
Masami HIRATA added the comment: I have tested the workaround and it works correctly. Please see attached log file. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file27429/Python33_with_venv_2.txt ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16116 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue8800] add threading.RWLock
Kristján Valur Jónsson added the comment: Thanks Richard. I wonder if the issues with the multiprocessing tests can be fixed by making use of Barriers? One of the reasons I introduced Barriers into the lib originally was my alarm at seeing the various springklings of different _wait() calls in the unittests, particularly in the threading module (there are Condition variable tests there still that have race conditions, that are cunnrently hidden by liberal use of _wait()) Then I started to wonder if it were appropriate to use a Barrier in the Condition variable tests, particularly given that the former is implemented by way of the latter :) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue8800 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue8800] add threading.RWLock
Kristján Valur Jónsson added the comment: although I'd prefer a BSD errno example, such as ECONNRESET, instead of a winsock one Are you referring to the comment where I mention ECONNABORTED? That is a regular unix error (windows version is WSAECONNABORTED). This error occurs when the local stack decides to kill the connection, as opposed to ECONNRESET which occurs on account of receiving a RST packet. New patch includes documentation change. If 2.7 is still in bugfix mode, then this patch could probably be accepted. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file27430/socketserver.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue8800 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16138] In the glossary there is a small typo about __len__() in the sequence definition
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 7cf0d8b2744b by Andrew Svetlov in branch '3.2': Issue #16138: fix typo. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7cf0d8b2744b New changeset a093d39fdda4 by Andrew Svetlov in branch '3.3': Merge issue #16138: fix typo. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a093d39fdda4 New changeset cbb9b5dcb88a by Andrew Svetlov in branch 'default': Merge issue #16138: fix typo. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/cbb9b5dcb88a -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16138 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16116] Can not install C extension modules to inside a venv on Python 3.3.0 for Win32
Masami HIRATA added the comment: btw, it seems to me that -IC:\Python33\include -IC:\Python33\include should be -IC:\Users\msmhrt\mypython\3.3.0\include -IC:\Python33\include. What do you think about it? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16116 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16138] In the glossary there is a small typo about __len__() in the sequence definition
Andrew Svetlov added the comment: Fixed. Thanks to py.user -- nosy: +asvetlov resolution: - fixed stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16138 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
