Re: list comparison vs integer comparison, which is more efficient?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:19 AM, austin aigbe eshik...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know which is more efficient to use, between an integer comparison and a list comparison: You can test them with the timeit module, but my personal suspicion is that any difference between them will be utterly and completely dwarfed by all your sqrt(2) calls in the complex constructors. If you break those out, and use a tuple instead of a list, you could write this very simply and tidily: bits = { (0,0): complex(1/math.sqrt(2),1/math.sqrt(2)), (0,1): complex(1/math.sqrt(2),-1/math.sqrt(2)), (1,0): complex(-1/math.sqrt(2),1/math.sqrt(2)), (1,1): complex(-1/math.sqrt(2),-1/math.sqrt(2)), } # QPSK - TS 36.211 V12.2.0, section 7.1.2, Table 7.1.2-1 def mp_qpsk(self): r = [] for i in range(self.nbits/2): bit_pair = self.sbits[i*2:i*2+2] r.append(bits[tuple(bit_pair)]) return r At this point, your loop looks very much like a list comprehension in full form, so you can make a simple conversion: # From itertools recipes # https://docs.python.org/3/library/itertools.html def pairwise(iterable): s - (s0,s1), (s1,s2), (s2, s3), ... a, b = tee(iterable) next(b, None) return zip(a, b) # Replace zip() with izip() for the Python 2 equivalent. def mp_qpsk(self): return [bits[pair] for pair in pairwise(self.sbits)] How's that look? I don't care if it's faster or not, I prefer this form :) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: apostrophe not considered with tkinter's wordstart and wordend
ravas wrote: When I place my mouse over a word (and I press something) I want the program to analyze the word. Tkinter almost provides the perfect option: self.text.get('current wordstart', 'current wordend') Unfortunately apostrophes are not considered using wordstart and wordend. http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/ Says: For the purposes of this operation, a word is either a string of consecutive letter, digit, or underbar (_) characters, or a single character that is none of these types. The easy work around is to highlight the word and use: self.text.get('sel.first', 'sel.last') However, it seems like it could be an easy improvement if we could include the apostrophe in the list of word characters. Is it possible that this could be added in an upcoming version of Python -- or is this a Tk issue? I think it is. http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TkCmd/text.htm#M41 does not mention a way to configure the set of word chars either: ?submodifier? wordstart Adjust the index to refer to the first character of the word containing the current index. A word consists of any number of adjacent characters that are letters, digits, or underscores, or a single character that is not one of these. If the display submodifier is given, this only examines non-elided characters, otherwise all characters (elided or not) are examined. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [ANN] EasyGUI_Qt version 0.9
On 01/03/2015 10:11 AM, André Roberge wrote: Would you care to elaborate? All the code I have written works correctly on all the tests I have done. I do have reports from a user using a Mac with Python 2.7 for which some widgets did not quite work properly ... but that's all I have heard about problems with it. I would like to hear about the problems you know about either here, on by filing an issue at https://github.com/aroberge/easygui_qt/issues It's not clear to me that jmf even understands what easygui is intended to do. So I wouldn't worry too much about what he says. So I'd just ignore what he has to say. If someone needs a full event-driven GUI, they can use an appropriate toolkit. For quick and dirty little utilities I can see how easygui fits the bill, and being Qt-based is good news. By the way, I'm not seeing jmf's emails; I think they are being filtered at the mailing list level. I think enough people got tired of his trolling that they banned him, though on USENET he's still getting through. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Enumerating loggers iin logging module
Thanks for the replies, thought there'd be a simple answer. Much appreciated. John On 30/12/2014 22:40, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: While it may involve reaching into the objects may or may not be blessed, the following seems to work for me in Py2.7: import logging # add a bunch of loggers and sub-loggers print logging.Logger.manager.loggerDict.keys() Works in 3.5, too, aside from trivialities: $ python3 Python 3.5.0a0 (default:1c51f1650c42+, Dec 29 2014, 02:29:06) [GCC 4.7.2] on linux Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import logging logging.getLogger(Name) logging.Logger object at 0x7f8dcc339be0 logging.getLogger(name.sublogger) logging.Logger object at 0x7f8dcc339ba8 logging.Logger.manager.loggerDict {'name.sublogger': logging.Logger object at 0x7f8dcc339ba8, 'Name': logging.Logger object at 0x7f8dcc339be0, 'name': logging.PlaceHolder object at 0x7f8dcc33ebe0} I'd say this is fine for debugging with. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Put float number in message.
On 03/01/2015 19:23, John Culleton wrote: Here is my last line in a simple program that is a scribus script. end = scribus.messageBox('Book Spine Width', 'dummy', ICON_WARNING, BUTTON_OK) This works. Now I want to put a float number called S instead of 'dummy'. If I just put S in the command I get an error. If I convert S to a string with SS = str(S) first and then and substitute SS for 'dummy' I get what appears to be the ASCII numbers representing the characters, not the characters I want. I am a total newbie with Python. Anyone have a suggestion? Can I use a print command instead? John Culleton I think you just want some string formatting so (untested) either end = scribus.messageBox('Book Spine Width', '{}'.format(S), ICON_WARNING, BUTTON_OK) or end = scribus.messageBox('Book Spine Width', '%f' % S, ICON_WARNING, BUTTON_OK) For all the formatting options see https://docs.python.org/3/library/string.html#string-formatting or https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#old-string-formatting respectively. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
apostrophe not considered with tkinter's wordstart and wordend
When I place my mouse over a word (and I press something) I want the program to analyze the word. Tkinter almost provides the perfect option: self.text.get('current wordstart', 'current wordend') Unfortunately apostrophes are not considered using wordstart and wordend. http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/tkinter/ Says: For the purposes of this operation, a word is either a string of consecutive letter, digit, or underbar (_) characters, or a single character that is none of these types. The easy work around is to highlight the word and use: self.text.get('sel.first', 'sel.last') However, it seems like it could be an easy improvement if we could include the apostrophe in the list of word characters. Is it possible that this could be added in an upcoming version of Python -- or is this a Tk issue? Windows 7 Python 3.4 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
list comparison vs integer comparison, which is more efficient?
Hi, I am currently implementing the LTE physical layer in Python (ver 2.7.7). For the qpsk, 16qam and 64qam modulation I would like to know which is more efficient to use, between an integer comparison and a list comparison: Integer comparison: bit_pair as an integer value before comparison # QPSK - TS 36.211 V12.2.0, section 7.1.2, Table 7.1.2-1 def mp_qpsk(self): r = [] for i in range(self.nbits/2): bit_pair = (self.sbits[i*2] 1) | self.sbits[i*2+1] if bit_pair == 0: r.append(complex(1/math.sqrt(2),1/math.sqrt(2))) elif bit_pair == 1: r.append(complex(1/math.sqrt(2),-1/math.sqrt(2))) elif bit_pair == 2: r.append(complex(-1/math.sqrt(2),1/math.sqrt(2))) elif bit_pair == 3: r.append(complex(-1/math.sqrt(2),-1/math.sqrt(2))) return r List comparison: bit_pair as a list before comparison # QPSK - TS 36.211 V12.2.0, section 7.1.2, Table 7.1.2-1 def mp_qpsk(self): r = [] for i in range(self.nbits/2): bit_pair = self.sbits[i*2:i*2+2] if bit_pair == [0,0]: r.append(complex(1/math.sqrt(2),1/math.sqrt(2))) elif bit_pair == [0,1]: r.append(complex(1/math.sqrt(2),-1/math.sqrt(2))) elif bit_pair == [1,0]: r.append(complex(-1/math.sqrt(2),1/math.sqrt(2))) elif bit_pair == [1,1]: r.append(complex(-1/math.sqrt(2),-1/math.sqrt(2))) return r Thanks -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Tk Tix GUI documentation builder overview and tips
On 1/3/2015 1:30 PM, aba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have had issues running Tix on python 2.7.6 and 3.4.2: More details on the issue here. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27751923/tix-widgets-installation-issue Has anyone had similar issues with Tix? The current doc is wrong in any case. I opened http://bugs.python.org/issue23156 -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: surprise - byte in set
Dear all, Many thanks for your responses. I never realised this difference between 'bytes' and 'string'. Thanks, Patrick --- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I remove/unlink wildcarded files
Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: And how does this strange language called English fits into your rules and (no) special cases scheme? http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/3989/Did-you-know-that-ough-can-be-pronounced-TEN-DIFFERENT-WAYS I learned six, which is no more than there are for the simple vowel 'a' (at least, in British English; American English has a few less sounds for 'a'). What is this thing you call American English? :-) I wouldn't want to put an exact number of distinct accents in the USA, but it's probably in three figures. And it used to be said that a sufficiently skilled linguist could tell what side of the street an English person was born on, that's how fine-grained English accents used to be. Consider cat, bay, car (that's the three most common sounds), watch, water, parent (these three are less common, and American English often folds them into the other three). There's a joke about how people from certain parts of the US suffer from hat attacks (heart attacks). Now have a look at Norwegian, where the fifth of those sounds (water) is spelled with a ring above, eg La den gå - and the sixth is (I think) more often spelled with a slashed O - Den kraften jeg skjulte før. Similarly in Swedish: Slå dig loss, slå dig fri is pronounced Slaw di loss, slaw di free. Or let's look at another of English's oddities. Put a t and an h together, and you get a completely different sound... two different sounds, in fact, voiced or unvoiced. Icelandic uses thorn instead: Þetta er nóg is pronounced (roughly) Thetta air know. English used to include the letter Thorn too. Among others. Little known fact: at one time, ampersand (as in and) used to be included as a letter of the alphabet http://mentalfloss.com/article/31904/12-letters-didnt-make-alphabet And the whole notion of putting a dot on a lower-case i and not putting one on upper-case I is pretty illogical, but Turkish, as I mentioned in the previous post, uses the dots to distinguish between two pronunciations of the vowel, hence aldırma which would sound somewhat different with a dot on the i. (You may be able to see a theme in my example texts, but I figured it's time to see what I can do with full Unicode support. The cold looks of disapproval never bothered me, anyway.) ChrisA -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Command Line Inputs from Windows
On 02/01/2015 19:44, Ken Stewart wrote: Court of King Arthur, Court of BDFL actually. I’d appreciate any help you can provide. I’m having problems passing command line parameters from Windows 7 into a Python script (using Python 3.4.2). It works correctly when I call the interpreter explicitly from the Windows command prompt, but it doesn’t work when I enter the script name without calling the Python interpreter. This works: python myScript.py arg1 arg2 arg3 This doesn’t work: myScript.py arg1 arg2 arg3 The Windows PATH environment variable contains the path to Python, as well as the path to the Script directory. The PATHEXT environment variable contains the Python extension (.py). There are other anomalies too between the two methods of invoking the script depending on whether I include the extension (.py) along with the script name. For now I’m only interested in passing the arguments without explicitly calling the Python interpreter. Here is the script: #! python import sys def getargs(): sys.stdout.write(\nHello from Python %s\n\n % (sys.version,)) print ('Number of arguments =', len(sys.argv)) print ('Argument List =', str(sys.argv)) if __name__ == '__main__': getargs() Result_1 (working correctly): C:\Python34\Scripts python myScript.py arg1 arg2 arg3 Hello from Python 3.4.2 (v3.4.2:ab2c023a9432, Oct 6 2014, 22:15:05) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)] Number of arguments = 4 Argument List = ['myScript.py', 'arg1', 'arg2', 'arg3'] Result_ 2 (Fail) C:\Python34\Scripts myScript.py arg1 arg2 arg3 Hello from Python 3.4.2 (v3.4.2:ab2c023a9432, Oct 6 2014, 22:15:05) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)] Number of arguments = 1 Argument List = ['C:\\Python34\\Scripts\\myScript.py'] As a beginner I’m probably making a mistake somewhere but I can’t find it. I don’t think the shebang does anything in Windows but I’ve tried several variations without success. I’ve tried writing the script using only commands, without the accouterments of a full program (without the def statement and without the if __name__ == ‘__main__’ …) to no avail. I’m out of ideas. Any suggestions? Ken Stewart Works fine for me with this:- c:\Users\Mark\Documents\MyPythonassoc .py .py=Python.File c:\Users\Mark\Documents\MyPythonassoc .pyw .pyw=Python.NoConFile c:\Users\Mark\Documents\MyPythonftype Python.File Python.File=C:\Windows\py.exe %1 %* c:\Users\Mark\Documents\MyPythonftype Python.NoConFile Python.NoConFile=C:\Windows\pyw.exe %1 %* c:\Users\Mark\Documents\MyPythonset pathext PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC;.PY This is set up by the Python Launcher for Windows, introduced in 3.3, see https://docs.python.org/3/using/windows.html#launcher, noting that shebang lines also work. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Command Line Inputs from Windows
Chris, Dennis, James, and Mark: SUCCESS! Thanks for your suggestions. It was the registry. Kudos to Dennis. The data strings for a lot of different command keys in the registry were missing the %* (percent star) characters. Thanks Chris for the explanation on why the %* string is needed. Here is a sample key: S1-5-21-1560217580-722697556-320042093-1000-Classes py_auto_file shell open command The corrected data for the key looks like this: C:\Python34\python.exe %1 %* I used the 'find' tool in regedit to search for python in the registry. There were many hits on the word python but only a handful had data fields similar to the one above. Every instance was missing the %* string. I modified them all. My script didn't start working until after I'd modified the very last one. Happily, my computer still boots after mucking around in the registry. I haven't yet investigated the launcher suggested by Chris and Mark. That may well be the proper solution. At the moment it looks like the Python installer didn't create these registry entries properly in Windows 7. Thanks again Ken Stewart -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Command Line Inputs from Windows
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Ken Stewart gordon_ken_stew...@msn.com wrote: I used the 'find' tool in regedit to search for python in the registry. There were many hits on the word python but only a handful had data fields similar to the one above. Every instance was missing the %* string. I modified them all. My script didn't start working until after I'd modified the very last one. Happily, my computer still boots after mucking around in the registry. Excellent! Fiddling with Python's setup under Windows is unlikely ever to stop your computer from booting. Unlike on most Linux and Mac OS systems, there's no system Python that's used internally; Windows itself doesn't make use of Python. So you should have no problems playing around with things. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Command Line Inputs from Windows
On 03/01/2015 08:03, Ken Stewart wrote: At the moment it looks like the Python installer didn't create these registry entries properly in Windows 7. If that is actally the case please raise an issue on the bug tracker at bugs.python.org if one doesn't already exist. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I remove/unlink wildcarded files
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: And how does this strange language called English fits into your rules and (no) special cases scheme? http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/3989/Did-you-know-that-ough-can-be-pronounced-TEN-DIFFERENT-WAYS I learned six, which is no more than there are for the simple vowel 'a' (at least, in British English; American English has a few less sounds for 'a'). What is this thing you call American English? :-) I wouldn't want to put an exact number of distinct accents in the USA, but it's probably in three figures. And it used to be said that a sufficiently skilled linguist could tell what side of the street an English person was born on, that's how fine-grained English accents used to be. American English is the category compassing all of those accents common to the USA. There are certain broad similarities between it and British English, just as there are similarities between Dutch and German; and there are certain commonalities across all accents of American English, allowing generalizations about the number of sounds made by the vowel a. :) Now have a look at Norwegian, where the fifth of those sounds (water) is spelled with a ring above, eg La den gå - and the sixth is (I think) more often spelled with a slashed O - Den kraften jeg skjulte før. Similarly in Swedish: Slå dig loss, slå dig fri is pronounced Slaw di loss, slaw di free. Or let's look at another of English's oddities. Put a t and an h together, and you get a completely different sound... two different sounds, in fact, voiced or unvoiced. Icelandic uses thorn instead: Þetta er nóg is pronounced (roughly) Thetta air know. English used to include the letter Thorn too. Among others. Yes, but it doesn't any more. Icelandic is the only modern language I'm aware of that retains thorn and eth (eg in það). ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I remove/unlink wildcarded files
On 03/01/2015 10:16, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote: And how does this strange language called English fits into your rules and (no) special cases scheme? http://www.omgfacts.com/lists/3989/Did-you-know-that-ough-can-be-pronounced-TEN-DIFFERENT-WAYS I learned six, which is no more than there are for the simple vowel 'a' (at least, in British English; American English has a few less sounds for 'a'). What is this thing you call American English? :-) I wouldn't want to put an exact number of distinct accents in the USA, but it's probably in three figures. And it used to be said that a sufficiently skilled linguist could tell what side of the street an English person was born on, that's how fine-grained English accents used to be. American English is the category compassing all of those accents common to the USA. There are certain broad similarities between it and British English, just as there are similarities between Dutch and German; and there are certain commonalities across all accents of American English, allowing generalizations about the number of sounds made by the vowel a. :) I used to get very confused watching the old westerns. The child when talking about more and paw wasn't referring to possibly an adjective, noun or adverb and a part of an animal, but what we would refer to in the UK as mum and dad :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pathlib type error
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Georg Grafendorfer georg.grafendor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Debian 8 Jessie on an AMD64 machine. Getting this error: ~$ python3 Python 3.4.2 (default, Oct 8 2014, 10:45:20) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from pathlib import Path p = Path(/etc) q = p / init.d Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'PosixPath' and 'str' Unable to reproduce: rosuav@dewey:~$ python3 Python 3.4.2 (default, Oct 8 2014, 10:45:20) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from pathlib import Path p = Path(/etc) q = p / init.d q PosixPath('/etc/init.d') pathlib.__file__ '/usr/lib/python3.4/pathlib.py' Is it possible you have another pathlib installed? It's available on PyPI, maybe you got it with pip - check 'pip freeze|grep pathlib' on the off-chance. Is your pathlib.__file__ the same as mine? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
pathlib type error
Hi I'm using Debian 8 Jessie on an AMD64 machine. Getting this error: ~$ python3 Python 3.4.2 (default, Oct 8 2014, 10:45:20) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from pathlib import Path p = Path(/etc) q = p / init.d Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'PosixPath' and 'str' This also happens if I compile python3.4.2 from scratch: .../data/Python-3.4.2$ ./python Python 3.4.2 (default, Jan 3 2015, 12:42:09) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. from pathlib import Path p = Path(/etc) q = p / init.d Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'PosixPath' and 'str' On the same computer, using rescuecd 4.4.1 (Nov 2014) which ships python 3.4.1 it works as expected. thanks for help, Georg -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Saturday, January 3, 2015 5:26:27 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:43 PM, pramod gowda pramod.s...@gmail.com wrote: I am not getting the output, i am using windows 7 OS.. please check and give me the solution. Windows 7 - that's part of the story. What version of Python are you using? Is 192.168.2.2 the correct IP address? What happens when you run these? Do you get exceptions? ChrisA Hi chris. I am using python 3.4.2 I don get any exceptions, but wn i run the code,i don see any connections, IP address is given as my system IP. c,address=server_socket.accept() in server.py..if am trying to print something,it fails -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Socket programming
Hi i am learning socket programming, client code: import socket client_socket=socket.socket() server_address='192.168.2.2' server_port= 80 print(hello) client_socket.connect((server_address,server_port)) print(hello) data=client_socket.recv(1024) print(data) client_socket.close() server code: import socket server_socket=socket.socket() server_name='192.168.2.2' server_port= 80 server_socket.bind((server_name,server_port)) server_socket.listen(1) while True: print(hello) c,address=server_socket.accept() print(we got connection from:,address) c.send(hello,hw ru) c.close() I am not getting the output, i am using windows 7 OS.. please check and give me the solution. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: pathlib type error
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Georg Grafendorfer georg.grafendor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Debian 8 Jessie on an AMD64 machine. Getting this error: ~$ python3 Python 3.4.2 (default, Oct 8 2014, 10:45:20) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux Unable to reproduce: rosuav@dewey:~$ python3 Python 3.4.2 (default, Oct 8 2014, 10:45:20) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux Should have clarified: Dewey is also running Debian Jessie. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:43 PM, pramod gowda pramod.s...@gmail.com wrote: I am not getting the output, i am using windows 7 OS.. please check and give me the solution. Windows 7 - that's part of the story. What version of Python are you using? Is 192.168.2.2 the correct IP address? What happens when you run these? Do you get exceptions? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Tk Tix GUI documentation builder overview and tips
Hi, I have had issues running Tix on python 2.7.6 and 3.4.2: More details on the issue here. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27751923/tix-widgets-installation-issue Has anyone had similar issues with Tix? Thanks and Happy New Year. On Friday, March 27, 2009 5:19:42 PM UTC-4, bal...@googlemail.com wrote: I have recently started development for a small video conversion project using a GUI. After some research I decided to use Tkinter/Tix (Tk/Tix). The reasons are mainly: 1. the GUI is rather simple, and 2. the end-user is not necessarily technically inclined so I want to keep a) required libraries as few as possible, and b) installation as painless as possible. 3. Tk/Tix is included with Python. Thus only a Python installation is needed. Nothing else. 4. Tk itsself misses some rudimentary widgets like meters, multi/colum lists, grid and scrolled widgets. Tix provides those. Good enough for my little application (more advanced and more modern widgets are available in frameworks like Qt, Gtk, or wxWindows). Before starting I spent some effort to find a) relevant documentation, b) GUI Builders which might help me, c) answers to non-obvious questions. The process took some time and effort so I want to share my findings: a) Documentation resources Python Docs http://docs.python.org/library/tkinter.html Tk Commands http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/contents.htm Tix Reference http://tix.sourceforge.net/man/html/contents.htm Tix demo application You want to extract the Tix demo application coming with the Tix 8.4.3 source distribution. It containsexamples for many widgets - unfortunately none for multi-column HList or the Grid (see below). https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5649package_id=5704 Tix8.4.3-src.tar.gz, then look in /Tix8.4.3/Python/Demo/tix Thinking in Tkinter I recommend the Individual programs online http://www.ferg.org/thinking_in_tkinter/index.html b) GUI development tools ActiveState GUI Builder (using grid layout) SpecTcl is the predecessor of GUI Builder (by ActivaState). http://spectcl.sourceforge.net/ FAQ (where to get source) http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/komodo-announce/3355346 PAGE v3.0 by Stewart Allen (using placer layout) http://page.sourceforge.net/ There are many more for other GUI toolkits mentioned in this post: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-February/250727.html Finally I decided to use the packer layout and create the widgets manually. Just the simplest and quickest way for me. c) How do I ...? How do I use all methods available in the Tix Grid? Tix Grid with full implementation of all methods http://klappnase.bubble.org/TixGrid/index.html How do I create a multi-column Tix.HList? import Tkinter as Tk import Tix root = Tix.Tk() # setup HList hl = Tix.HList(root, columns = 5, header = True) hl.header_create(0, text = File) hl.header_create(1, text = Date) hl.header_create(1, text = Size) # create a multi-column row hl.add(row1, text = filename.txt) hl.item_create(entry_path, 1, text = 2009-03-26 21:07:03) hl.item_create(entry_path, 2, text = 200MiB) I haven't found out how to right-justify individual columns? Anyone? How to implement Tk GUI with multiple threads? Usually there are two options to make threads wait for an event: * gui thread polling (lame) see here how to use Tk.after() (actually a Tcl command) to poll http://uucode.com/texts/pylongopgui/pyguiapp.html see here how to imitate the Tk event loop to poll for non-Tk events (a socket, for example) https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5649package_id=5704 Tix8.4.3-src.tar.gz, then look in /Tix8.4.3/Python/Demo/tix/ tixwidgets.py, find loop() * multithreaded with events (the option to choose) Basically this uses bind and event_generate to send Notify messages to the Tk instance. I suspect the following example failed due to not synchronising the event_generate call http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Python/comp.lang.python/2006-07/msg01479.html For multithreading Python Tk GUI applications the following rules apply: 1. same thread calling Tk must do all subsequent GUI calls, 2. other threads may send events with send_event to the root Tk instance, 3. with threading problems you might try to synchonise access to event_generate(). Using event_generate() with one non-GUI thread seems to be safe. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I remove/unlink wildcarded files
On 03/01/2015 17:53, Rick Johnson wrote: On Saturday, January 3, 2015 4:39:25 AM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote: I used to get very confused watching the old westerns. The child when talking about more and paw wasn't referring to possibly an adjective, noun or adverb and a part of an animal, but what we would refer to in the UK as mum and dad :) Early Americans are easy to satirize since most were schooled at home by illiterate parents. I believe the redneck vernacular substituted mother and father for maw and paw respectively. Which is not surprising since most uneducated folks tend to favor single syllable simplifications of words over their multi-syllable counterparts. Widespread centralized free schooling did not exists until almost the 1900's. Heck, looking back at American history, the world *SHOULD* be in awe. To go from a rag-tag illiterate bunch of cowboys, to the worlds most powerful and technically advanced society (in roughly one hundred years!) has to be the most amazing transformation in the history of the human society. I suspect that the engineers who pushed the railways across North America were hardly a rag-tag illiterate bunch of cowboys. I won't mention that the transformation involved wiping out 99% of the indigenous population. Of course with all success stories, timing and luck had a little to do with it, but it was undoubtedly the rebellious and self reliant nature of Americans that made them so successful. So before you go and spouting off about how dumb Americans are/were, ask yourself, what greatness has *MY* country achieved in the span of a century? I'm not entirely sure how a little bit of gentle teasing about accents in fictional films translates into spouting off about how dumb Americans are/were but there you go. Hardly a century but I believe that the British Empire covered 25% of the land surface on the planet. Quite an achievement for a tiny patch of islands sitting off the coast of Europe. However I suspect that a large number of people were glad to see the back of us, although I still think it audacious for those people to actually want to run their own countries. *school bell rings* PS: I've recently developed an industrial grade scraper specially designed for removing dried egg residue from the human face with a minimal amount of collateral damage. If any of you are interested in volunteering your egg covered faces for testing i would be thankful! Please send me a private message as the alpha phase begins soon! I believe that this has already been done. Should I ever need one I'll probably get a cheap one, complete with its Made in China sticker, from one of the many £ stores that are springing up in the UK. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How do I remove/unlink wildcarded files
On Saturday, January 3, 2015 4:39:25 AM UTC-6, Mark Lawrence wrote: I used to get very confused watching the old westerns. The child when talking about more and paw wasn't referring to possibly an adjective, noun or adverb and a part of an animal, but what we would refer to in the UK as mum and dad :) Early Americans are easy to satirize since most were schooled at home by illiterate parents. I believe the redneck vernacular substituted mother and father for maw and paw respectively. Which is not surprising since most uneducated folks tend to favor single syllable simplifications of words over their multi-syllable counterparts. Widespread centralized free schooling did not exists until almost the 1900's. Heck, looking back at American history, the world *SHOULD* be in awe. To go from a rag-tag illiterate bunch of cowboys, to the worlds most powerful and technically advanced society (in roughly one hundred years!) has to be the most amazing transformation in the history of the human society. Of course with all success stories, timing and luck had a little to do with it, but it was undoubtedly the rebellious and self reliant nature of Americans that made them so successful. So before you go and spouting off about how dumb Americans are/were, ask yourself, what greatness has *MY* country achieved in the span of a century? *school bell rings* PS: I've recently developed an industrial grade scraper specially designed for removing dried egg residue from the human face with a minimal amount of collateral damage. If any of you are interested in volunteering your egg covered faces for testing i would be thankful! Please send me a private message as the alpha phase begins soon! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [ANN] EasyGUI_Qt version 0.9
On 03/01/2015 17:11, André Roberge wrote: On Saturday, 3 January 2015 04:52:21 UTC-4, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote: Le vendredi 2 janvier 2015 20:11:25 UTC+1, André Roberge a écrit : On Friday, 2 January 2015 06:29:37 UTC-4, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote: Le mercredi 31 décembre 2014 23:24:50 UTC+1, André Roberge a écrit : EasyGUI_Qt version 0.9 has been released. This is the first announcement about EasyGUI_Qt on this list. snip I toyed and I spent a couple of hours with it. I do not know to much what to say. Well, this is more positive than your previous comment expressing doubt that it would work. ;-) So, thank you! Do not get me wrong, I do not wish to be rude. You are building a tool upon a toolkit which simply does not work properly. If for some reason you are not aware of this, you are not aware of this, it is unfortunately a simple as this. (Not only I know why, I'm able to explain the cause). Would you care to elaborate? All the code I have written works correctly on all the tests I have done. I do have reports from a user using a Mac with Python 2.7 for which some widgets did not quite work properly ... but that's all I have heard about problems with it. I would like to hear about the problems you know about either here, on by filing an issue at https://github.com/aroberge/easygui_qt/issues jmf I hope you know that you're engaging with a person who makes statements about the inadequacies of various tools, but when challenged to provide evidence to support his claims he can never do so. He is our Resident Unicode Expert, in other words when it comes to Unicode he hasn't got the faintest idea what he's talking about, at least with respect to PEP 393 and the Flexible String Representation. Please ignore him as he's just not worth the effort. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: surprise - byte in set
On 01/03/2015 10:50 AM, patrick vrijlandt wrote: Hello list, Let me first wish you all the best in 2015! Today I was trying to test for occurrence of a byte in a set ... sys.version '3.4.2 (v3.4.2:ab2c023a9432, Oct 6 2014, 22:15:05) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)]' 'b' in 'abc' True b'b' in b'abc' True 'b' in set('abc') True b'b' in set(b'abc') False I was surprised by the last result. What happened? (Examples simplified; I was planning to manipulate the set) The surprise is really that the 3rd test is True not that the fourth is False. First, as should be expected, a byte string is a sequence of (small) ints. So b'b' is a (short) byte string and the set set(b'abc') is composed of three ints. You should not expect your inclusion test to return True when testing for a bytes-type object in a set of int-type objects. And that explains your False result in the 4th test. type(b'abc') class 'bytes' type(b'abc'[0]) class 'int' But things are different for strings. You might think a string is a sequence of characters, but Python does not have a character type. In fact the elements of a string are just 1 char long strings: type('abc') class 'str' type('abc'[0]) class 'str' You would not logically expect to find a string 'b' in a set of characters in, say C++, where the two types are different. But that's not the Python way. In Python a set of characters set('abc') is really a set of (short) strings, and the character 'b' is really a (short) string, so the inclusion test works. Python's way of returning a 1-byte string when indexing a string (instead of returning an element of type character) allows this surprising result. 'abc'[0] 'a' 'abc'[0][0] 'a' 'abc'[0][0][0] 'a' 'abc'[0][0][0][0] 'a' ... I've never considered this a problem, but a infinitely indexable object *is* a bit of an oddity. Patrick --- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. http://www.avast.com -- Dr. Gary Herron Department of Computer Science DigiPen Institute of Technology (425) 895-4418 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
surprise - byte in set
Hello list, Let me first wish you all the best in 2015! Today I was trying to test for occurrence of a byte in a set ... sys.version '3.4.2 (v3.4.2:ab2c023a9432, Oct 6 2014, 22:15:05) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)]' 'b' in 'abc' True b'b' in b'abc' True 'b' in set('abc') True b'b' in set(b'abc') False I was surprised by the last result. What happened? (Examples simplified; I was planning to manipulate the set) Patrick --- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. http://www.avast.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Put float number in message.
Here is my last line in a simple program that is a scribus script. end = scribus.messageBox('Book Spine Width', 'dummy', ICON_WARNING, BUTTON_OK) This works. Now I want to put a float number called S instead of 'dummy'. If I just put S in the command I get an error. If I convert S to a string with SS = str(S) first and then and substitute SS for 'dummy' I get what appears to be the ASCII numbers representing the characters, not the characters I want. I am a total newbie with Python. Anyone have a suggestion? Can I use a print command instead? John Culleton -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: surprise - byte in set
sys.version '3.4.2 (v3.4.2:ab2c023a9432, Oct 6 2014, 22:15:05) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (Intel)]' 'b' in 'abc' True b'b' in b'abc' True 'b' in set('abc') True b'b' in set(b'abc') False I was surprised by the last result. What happened? (Examples simplified; I was planning to manipulate the set) I'm no expert, but I see: for i in set(b'abc'): ... print(type(i)) ... class 'int' class 'int' class 'int' -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: surprise - byte in set
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:50 AM, patrick vrijlandt pvrijla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, Let me first wish you all the best in 2015! Today I was trying to test for occurrence of a byte in a set ... In the last case, the set has integers in it. Try: b'b'[0] in set(b'abc') -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [ANN] EasyGUI_Qt version 0.9
On Saturday, 3 January 2015 04:52:21 UTC-4, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote: Le vendredi 2 janvier 2015 20:11:25 UTC+1, André Roberge a écrit : On Friday, 2 January 2015 06:29:37 UTC-4, wxjm...@gmail.com wrote: Le mercredi 31 décembre 2014 23:24:50 UTC+1, André Roberge a écrit : EasyGUI_Qt version 0.9 has been released. This is the first announcement about EasyGUI_Qt on this list. snip I toyed and I spent a couple of hours with it. I do not know to much what to say. Well, this is more positive than your previous comment expressing doubt that it would work. ;-) So, thank you! Do not get me wrong, I do not wish to be rude. You are building a tool upon a toolkit which simply does not work properly. If for some reason you are not aware of this, you are not aware of this, it is unfortunately a simple as this. (Not only I know why, I'm able to explain the cause). Would you care to elaborate? All the code I have written works correctly on all the tests I have done. I do have reports from a user using a Mac with Python 2.7 for which some widgets did not quite work properly ... but that's all I have heard about problems with it. I would like to hear about the problems you know about either here, on by filing an issue at https://github.com/aroberge/easygui_qt/issues jmf -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 3:43 AM, pramod gowda pramod.s...@gmail.com wrote: Hi i am learning socket programming, This works on Linux Mint 17.1. Server: #!/usr/local/cpython-3.4/bin/python import socket server_socket = socket.socket() #server_name = '192.168.2.2' server_socket.setsockopt(socket.SOL_SOCKET, socket.SO_REUSEADDR, 1) server_name = 'localhost' server_port = 8080 server_socket.bind((server_name, server_port)) server_socket.listen(1) while True: print(hello) c,address = server_socket.accept() print(we got connection from:,address) c.send(bhello,hw ru) c.close() client: #!/usr/local/cpython-3.4/bin/python import socket client_socket = socket.socket() #server_address='192.168.2.2' server_address = 'localhost' server_port = 8080 print(hello) client_socket.connect((server_address,server_port)) print(hello) data=client_socket.recv(1024) print(data) client_socket.close() But note that if you send 10 bytes into a socket, it could be received as two chunks of 5, or other strangeness. So you should frame your data somehow - adding crlf to the end of your send's is one simple way. There are multiple ways of dealing with this. Here's one: http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/~strombrg/bufsock.html with links to others. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Saturday, January 3, 2015 9:27:20 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: pramod gowda wrote: HI, i m doing n personal laptop. so i think i ve rights to open a listening socket,could u pls tell me hw can i check it? Is your keyboard broken? There are a lot of missing characters in your sentences. You're going to have a lot of trouble programming with a broken keyboard. As far as sockets, this is a Python discussion group, not Windows experts. Try googling for more information and see if that helps: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=windows%20permission%20to%20open%20sockets -- Steven Hi Steven, Sorry for using short words while posting,I am using python in windows7 with Python ver 3.4.2 for socket program,so i am asking for help. Thanks Pramod SP -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:39:26 PM UTC+5:30, mm0fmf wrote: On 03/01/2015 11:43, pramod gowda wrote: server_socket=socket.socket() server_name='192.168.2.2' server_port= 80 server_socket.bind((server_name,server_port)) server_socket.listen(1) I don't do much Python on Windows but do you have the necessary access rights to open a listening socket on port 80? Don't you need to run this with Administrator rights? HI, i m doing n personal laptop. so i think i ve rights to open a listening socket,could u pls tell me hw can i check it? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
pramod gowda wrote: HI, i m doing n personal laptop. so i think i ve rights to open a listening socket,could u pls tell me hw can i check it? Is your keyboard broken? There are a lot of missing characters in your sentences. You're going to have a lot of trouble programming with a broken keyboard. As far as sockets, this is a Python discussion group, not Windows experts. Try googling for more information and see if that helps: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=windows%20permission%20to%20open%20sockets -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Saturday, January 3, 2015 6:08:28 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:25 PM, pramod gowda pramod.s...@gmail.com wrote: I am using python 3.4.2 I don get any exceptions, but wn i run the code,i don see any connections, IP address is given as my system IP. What does the client say? ChrisA After c,address=server_socket.accept() ,this line of code,nothing s being executed. example i am just trying to print Hello thts also not being printed -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Command Line Inputs from Windows
Ken Stewart wrote: Here is a sample key: S1-5-21-1560217580-722697556-320042093-1000-Classes py_auto_file shell open command The corrected data for the key looks like this: C:\Python34\python.exe %1 %* Yikes! You use the awful cmd.exe as the shell don't you? An advice is to use something like TakeCommand or 4NT (from jpsoft.com) and create an executable extension for .py/.pyw files. Like I've done: set .py=C:\Python34\python.exe set .pyw=C:\Python34\pythonw.exe No need to fiddle with registry settings. -- --gv -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:25 PM, pramod gowda pramod.s...@gmail.com wrote: I am using python 3.4.2 I don get any exceptions, but wn i run the code,i don see any connections, IP address is given as my system IP. What does the client say? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Socket programming
On 03/01/2015 11:43, pramod gowda wrote: server_socket=socket.socket() server_name='192.168.2.2' server_port= 80 server_socket.bind((server_name,server_port)) server_socket.listen(1) I don't do much Python on Windows but do you have the necessary access rights to open a listening socket on port 80? Don't you need to run this with Administrator rights? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue23116] Python Tutorial 4.7.1: Improve ask_ok() to cover more input values
Carol Willing added the comment: @amylou Thank you for submitting this documentation suggestion about the Python Tutorial. This tutorial section, 4.7.1 Default Argument Values, tries to show that a function can have multiple input arguments which may be given default values. While the suggestion to use lower() does offer more robust input handling, it also adds some complexity to the example by introducing another function to a possibly new user. I do believe that the 'ask_ok' function could be improved by renaming the 'complaint' argument to something more positive, perhaps 'reminder'. I would also recommend replacing the error message 'uncooperative user' to something with a softer tone, perhaps 'invalid user response'. @amyluo If you are interested in working on documentation, section 6 of the Developer Guide is a handy resource (https://docs.python.org/devguide/docquality.html). -- assignee: - docs@python components: +Documentation nosy: +docs@python, willingc ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23116 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue1602] windows console doesn't print or input Unicode
Drekin added the comment: I tried the following code: import pdb pdb.set_trace() print(1 + 2) print(αβγ∫) When run in vanilla Python it indeed ends with UnicodeEncodeError as soon as it hits the line with non-ASCII characters. However, the solution via win_unicode_console package seems to work correctly. There is just an issue when you keep calling 'next' even after the main program ended. It ends with a RuntimeError after a few iterations. I didn't know that pdb can continue debugging after the main program has ended. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue1602 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23150] urllib parse incorrect handing of params
Julian Reschke added the comment: An example URI for this issue is: http://example.com/; The RFC 3986 path component for this URI is /;. After using urllib's parse function, how would you know? (I realize that changing behavior of the existing API may cause problems, but this is an information loss issue). One ugly, but workable way to fix this would be to also provide access to a RFC3986path component. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23150 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22256] pyvenv should display a progress indicator while creating an environment
Donald Stufft added the comment: I just noticed this issue. I think all that really needs done here is changing the venv module to use subprocess.check_call instead of subprocess.check_output when calling ensurepip. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22256 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23121] pip.exe breaks if python 2.7.9 is installed under c:\Program Files\Python
Donald Stufft added the comment: I do not know what setuptools plans on with regards to distlib sorry. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23121 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23010] unclosed file warning when defining unused logging FileHandler in dictConfig
Walter Doekes added the comment: No worries. I know how it is ;) Thanks for the update. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23010 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23153] Clarify Boolean Clause Results
R. David Murray added the comment: I mistyped 'josh' as 'joel', sorry. Ethan covers it pretty well, but I'll add a few things. Boolean operators are indeed not always used in a boolean context. There is a long tradition in Python of using them to return values via the short-circuit mechanism. Python is not the only language that does this. That said, there are disadvantages to that use of boolean operators, and eventually the trinary expression 'x if y else z' was introduced, and is now the preferred way to compute such values. The tutorial has not been updated to reflect that, and that is something that could be done, but probably requires a significant rewrite...someone on irc pointed out that the passage we are discussing is the first introduction of 'or' in the tutorial). However, the short-circuit-and-value-returning behavior of the boolean operators will not change, since it is a long standing part of the language. Your suggestion that this whole thing be discussed more is a valid point, but the question is, is this point in the tutorial the place to do it? Again, a more extensive rewrite is probably needed in order to make a real improvement (a project that is being discussed, whose status I don't know). Finally, the 4.1 text you quote is noting and/or as an exception is talking about the built-in functions and operators. and and or are important exceptions both because their default is different from other logical operations and because, unlike the other python operators, a type cannot override them. Thus they always return a value, whereas other *logical* operations will return a boolean *unless otherwise documented* in the documentation for the type. (I'm not sure there are any exceptions to that in the sdtlib, but there are, for example, in numpy.) Now, that all said, the tutorial section explicitly mentions the behavior of and and or, so I don't see how their being exceptional in this regard is an issue with the tutorial text. If you assigned another logical expression to a variable, you'd get True or False, but in Python's philosophy that's just a special case of the fact that all values in python have a truth value, as discussed by Ethan. So, in summary, I hear you that as an experienced programmer this tutorial section did not give you all the information you wanted. However, it is a *tutorial*, and so it *can't* (and be a readable *tutorial*) cover all the issues. Perhaps it could cover more if it were rewritten, but I don't think changing this section in any of the ways suggested so far would, as it is currently organized, be an improvement. If anyone wants to take another stab at it, though, we'll definitely evaluate it. willingc on IRC suggested adding links to other parts of the docs, for further reading, and that might be worthwhile if someone wants to take a look at making a suggestion in that regard. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23153 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23156] Update tix install information in tkinter tix chapter of doc
New submission from Terry J. Reedy: Update tix install info in doc. Using tix starts with 3 lines for testing one's tix install and continues '''If this fails, you have a Tk installation problem which must be resolved before proceeding. Use the environment variable TIX_LIBRARY to point to the installed Tix library directory, and make sure you have the dynamic object library (tix8183.dll or libtix8183.so) in the same directory that contains your Tk dynamic object library (tk8183.dll or libtk8183.so). The directory with the dynamic object library should also have a file called pkgIndex.tcl (case sensitive), which contains the line: package ifneeded Tix 8.1 [list load [file join $dir tix8183.dll] Tix]''' Almost nothing above matches my working-with-tix 3.4.2 Win 7 install. I do have a tix library directory: python34/tcl/tix8.4.3, but the version number is much newer. Since it is in the right place, TIX_LIBRARY is not needed and there is none. python34/DLLs contains tcl86t.dll and tk86t.dll and NO tix.dll. Is the once separate tix dll now part of tk dll? I cannot find pkgIndex.tcl; it is certainly not in the DLLs directory nor in the /tcl. The current doc seems useless to people who do not have tix working. See, for example, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27751923/tix-widgets-installation-issue which is a semi-repeat question and which claims seeing similar reports elsewhere on the net. -- assignee: docs@python components: Documentation, Tkinter messages: 233368 nosy: docs@python, serhiy.storchaka, terry.reedy, zach.ware priority: normal severity: normal stage: needs patch status: open title: Update tix install information in tkinter tix chapter of doc type: behavior versions: Python 2.7, Python 3.4, Python 3.5 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23156 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23157] Lib/test/time_hashlib.py doesn't work
New submission from Antoine Pitrou: I suppose it was totally forgotten in the transition to 3.x, and nobody appears to have complained. Perhaps we should remove it. -- components: Demos and Tools, Library (Lib) messages: 233375 nosy: christian.heimes, gregory.p.smith, pitrou priority: low severity: normal status: open title: Lib/test/time_hashlib.py doesn't work type: behavior versions: Python 3.4, Python 3.5 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23157 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23143] Remove some conditional code in _ssl.c
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset e9f05a4a5f16 by Antoine Pitrou in branch 'default': Issue #23143: Remove compatibility with OpenSSLs older than 0.9.8. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e9f05a4a5f16 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23143 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23143] Remove some conditional code in _ssl.c
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 37c6fd09f71f by Antoine Pitrou in branch 'default': Issue #23143: Remove compatibility with OpenSSLs older than 0.9.8. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/37c6fd09f71f -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23143 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23143] Remove some conditional code in _ssl.c
Antoine Pitrou added the comment: Thanks! Now done. -- resolution: - fixed stage: needs patch - resolved status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23143 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23156] Update tix install information in tkinter tix chapter of doc
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: Added Zach for Window build info, Ned for OSX info. -- nosy: +ned.deily ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23156 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23143] Remove some conditional code in _ssl.c
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[issue23143] Remove some conditional code in _ssl.c
Donald Stufft added the comment: +1, This sounds completely reasonable to do to me. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23143 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23153] Clarify Boolean Clause Results
John Potelle added the comment: I'm learning Python and informing you this is confusing - and you close the ticket without hearing any response to your questions? Re: Josh 1. To show how to return a Boolean result from a Boolean clause. If there's a better way, I'm all for it. 2. Most is a generalization. Perhaps Many is a better term? All traditional 3GLs and some other scripting languages don't; e.g. REXX and Beanshell return Boolean. But it's not important here. 3. As I said, or some better method. I've been programming 30 years but am only now learning Python. All I asking for is better clarification in the tutorial. If this were a wiki I would add one myself. Re: Ethan; quote from the line above, same section in the Tutorial: When used as a general value and not as a Boolean, the return value of a short-circuit operator is the last evaluated argument. If this isn't correct, please fix it. And this whole sentence is a bit weird to me - Boolean operators are *always* used in a Boolean context - unless the op is overloaded with some other functionality. Why would it return anything else? (well let's not go there...) Re: R.David Sorry I didn't see any input from Joel. But, yes, this is a tutorial. I argue that using A = (B or C or D) construct is not good, intuitive programming style, anyway. To me this looks like A should hold a Boolean, even only from a pseduocode standpoint. Even so, one wouldn't need to cast a Boolean if a Boolean was returned, as old programmers like me would expect. But, OK, so don't use bool() - but what you said is basically what I'm looking for IN the tutorial - eduction about why a Boolean should NOT be expected. Or how to achieve a Boolean, since it's a valid data type since version 2.3. This is a tutorial, after all. For example, the full documentation for v3.4 section 4.1: Operations and built-in functions that have a Boolean result always return 0 or False for false and 1 or True for true, unless otherwise stated. (Important exception: the Boolean operations or and and always return one of their operands.). Even here the docs says this is an exception. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23153 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
New submission from Mark Lawrence: I've suspected that this is the case for some time but I've confirmed it this morning. I ran synchronize and the highest revision was 94004 Changes %s to %ls in wprintf in launcher.c for C99 compatibility. As expected MSVC rebuilt the launcher. Later I reran synchronize and the highest revision was 94009 Update bundled pip and setuptools to 6.0.6 and 11.0.. The output from the 64 bit Release build concluded 31 succeeded, 0 failed, 5 up-to-date, 1 skipped. There also seems to be a toggle operating between the Release and Debug builds such that only one rebuilds at any one time. -- components: Build, Windows messages: 233355 nosy: BreamoreBoy, steve.dower, tim.golden, zach.ware priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code versions: Python 3.5 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23153] Clarify Boolean Clause Results
R. David Murray added the comment: Indeed, the short circuit and value return behavior is described in that section just before the example. I agree with Joel. This is a tutorial, and part of the zen of Python is that all expressions have a boolean value. There are very few places in python programs where it would be considered Pythonic to cast a value to one of the two uniquely boolean values via the Bool operator, so it is better that it *not* be mentioned in this context. -- nosy: +r.david.murray resolution: - not a bug stage: - resolved status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23153 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Zachary Ware added the comment: To clarify a bit, there's very little re-compiling, but everything that references the pythoncore project (every extension) is re-linked. There's no way around that short of not including the hg revision (which I won't accept :), but the re-linking only takes a fraction of a second per project. -- resolution: - not a bug stage: - resolved status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Steve Dower added the comment: This is because the hg id result has changed and we embed that into python35.dll. You'll see the same thing after an edit too (when the revision has + added). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue20983] Python 3.4 'repair' Windows installation does not install pip setuptools packages
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[issue11240] Running unit tests in a command line tool leads to infinite loop with multiprocessing on Windows
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[issue14302] Rename Scripts directory to bin and move python.exe to bin
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[issue17202] Add .bat line to .hgeol
Mark Lawrence added the comment: No objections so proceeding is in order here I take it? -- nosy: +BreamoreBoy ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue17202 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23155] unittest: object has no attribute '_removed_tests'
New submission from Thomas Klausner: On NetBSD with python-3.4.2 I see the following issue when running the tests for py-flake8-2.2.5: running build_ext test_get_parser (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok test_get_python_version (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok test_get_style_guide (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok test_get_style_guide_kwargs (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok test_register_extensions (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok test_stdin_disables_jobs (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok test_windows_disables_jobs (flake8.tests.test_engine.TestEngine) ... ok Traceback (most recent call last): File setup.py, line 74, in module test_suite='nose.collector', File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/distutils/core.py, line 148, in setup dist.run_commands() File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/distutils/dist.py, line 955, in run_commands self.run_command(cmd) File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/distutils/dist.py, line 974, in run_command cmd_obj.run() File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/site-packages/setuptools/command/test.py, line 142, in run self.with_project_on_sys_path(self.run_tests) File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/site-packages/setuptools/command/test.py, line 122, in with_project_on_sys_path func() File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/site-packages/setuptools/command/test.py, line 163, in run_tests testRunner=self._resolve_as_ep(self.test_runner), File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/main.py, line 93, in __init__ self.runTests() File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/main.py, line 244, in runTests self.result = testRunner.run(self.test) File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/runner.py, line 168, in run test(result) File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/suite.py, line 87, in __call__ return self.run(*args, **kwds) File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/suite.py, line 130, in run self._removeTestAtIndex(index) File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/suite.py, line 83, in _removeTestAtIndex self._removed_tests += test.countTestCases() File /usr/pkg/lib/python3.4/unittest/suite.py, line 41, in countTestCases cases = self._removed_tests AttributeError: 'FinalizingSuiteWrapper' object has no attribute '_removed_tests' *** Error code 1 I have reported this https://gitlab.com/pycqa/flake8/issues/19#note_712215 and Ian Cordasco said this looks like a bug in the unittest module, not py-flake8. -- components: Extension Modules messages: 233365 nosy: wiz priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: unittest: object has no attribute '_removed_tests' type: behavior versions: Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23155 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23153] Clarify Boolean Clause Results
Ethan Furman added the comment: Apologies, my wording was poor -- the last item evaluated is the one returned, but all items may not be evaluated. As soon as the answer is known Python stops evaluating any remaining items. So in the example: -- string1, string2, string3 = '', 'Trondheim', 'Hammer Dance' -- string1 or string2 or string3 'Trondheim' string2 is returned because it satifies the `or` conditions, and string3 is not evaluated. Re: John I appreciate you have many years of programming experience, but there are going to be differences between what is good practice in those languages and what is good practice in Python. IMO, the big three differences are: - white space indentation - everything is an object (variables, functions, classes, instances, any piece of data...) - everything has a truthy of falsey value -- e.g. -- string1, string2, string3 = '', 'Trondheim', 'Hammer Dance' -- if string2: ...print('string2 has a value! It is %s' % string2) ... 'string2 has a value! It is Trondheim' notice there is no `if bool(string2)` or `if string2 == False` (which would be False). As far as finding that bit of the tutorial confusing, there is no way to have a single document that is crystal clear to everyone who reads it. This section is correct, as is section 4.1 -- `or` is being used, so the operand is returned, not True or False. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23153 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23150] urllib parse incorrect handing of params
Senthil Kumaran added the comment: On Saturday, January 3, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: An example URI for this issue is: http://example.com/; The RFC 3986 path component for this URI is /;. I think, a stronger argument might be desirable (something like a real world scenario wherein a web app can construct such an entity) for a path that ends in a semi-colon for breaking backwards compatibility. OTOH, making it RFC 3986 compliant itself is a good enough argument, but it should be applied in total and the whole module should be made compatible instead of pieces of it. There is a bug to track it. You can mention this instance for the desired behavior in that ticket too (and close this ticket if this desired behavior is a subset). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23150 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Zachary Ware added the comment: Hmmm, what are sections 3 and 4? Are you building from the VS GUI or Command Prompt? From Command Prompt in a clean checkout, running PCbuild\build.bat -d -e (debug build) should take several minutes. The same again should be quick, and then just PCbuild\build.bat (release build) should take a while, and the same again should be quick. If you then do another debug build (add -d back), it will take a bit of time due to rebuilding (or at least re-installing) Tcl/Tk. Otherwise, things should be pretty quick. I haven't tested any of that this morning, though; how far off is that from your experience, Mark? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Mark Lawrence added the comment: I build from the GUI. I've just tried the Release build, it very quickly rebuilt the first four items and said the rest were up to date. I switched to Debug and got the output in the attached file. This is what I meant earlier by the effect toggling between the two builds. I tried what you suggested from the command line. I'll attach the end of the output from the final run of the debug build in a moment as I can't see how to put it in in one pass here. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37587/MSVCEdebugbuildoutput.log ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21337] Add tests for Tix
Terry J. Reedy added the comment: A minimal test would be that the one in the doc. from tkinter import tix root = tix.Tk() root.tk.eval('package require Tix') This passes on my 3.4.2 win7. I believe the first line should work on any system with _tkinter, whereas https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27751923/tix-widgets-installation-issue reports failure of the second line on his Mac with ... self.tk.eval('package require Tix') _tkinter.TclError: can't find package Tix -- nosy: +terry.reedy ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21337 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Mark Lawrence added the comment: Then we're not talking about the same thing. Maybe my setup is wrong, but a load of files were recompiled (from memory I think from sections 3 and 4 of the Release build) so it took minutes rather than fractions of a second. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
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[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
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[issue1284316] Win32: Security problem with default installation directory
Steve Dower added the comment: I'll reassign this to me, as I'm looking into making Program Files the default location for 3.5. I'd like to release at least some of the alphas with the change active by default (i.e. it's easy to select the old directory) to get broader feedback. So far I haven't encountered any trouble other than in pip (as is being discussed at https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1668). If things don't work well in the early releases of 3.5 we can easily revert the change, though I suspect the main feedback is going to be about the amount of typing required. In that case, I'll look into hardening the permissions on the root directory as part of installation. Unless some really bad scenarios arise, getting the legacy permissions will be opt-in. As 3.5 will be the first version with that change there shouldn't be any direct back-compat issues - we can't make a change like that in maintenance releases or even 3.4. -- assignee: loewis - steve.dower versions: -Python 2.7, Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue1284316 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Zachary Ware added the comment: On testing, you are correct, Mark. Sorry for the premature close. How does this patch look to you, Steve? -- assignee: - zach.ware keywords: +patch resolution: not a bug - stage: resolved - status: closed - open type: - behavior Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37589/issue23154.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue20898] Missing 507 response description
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[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Steve Dower added the comment: Ah, I forgot to put Configuration in there. That patch is fine. If it's only the OpenSSL projects doing this, that shouldn't cause 31 projects to rebuild (4 at most I'd have though), but it probably will cause more rebuilds than necessary. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23158] IDLE's help.txt corrent typo
New submission from Al Sweigart: There is a typo in IDLE's help.txt file: into the corrent number of spaces -- messages: 233379 nosy: Al.Sweigart priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: IDLE's help.txt corrent typo type: behavior versions: Python 3.4, Python 3.5, Python 3.6 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23158 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23158] IDLE's help.txt corrent typo
Al Sweigart added the comment: I've attached a simple typo fix for this issue. -- keywords: +patch Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37590/patch.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23158 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Zachary Ware added the comment: Our original explanation accounts for the 31 projects rebuilding. I'll get the patch committed later tonight (hopefully). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23153] Clarify Boolean Clause Results
John Potelle added the comment: Thank you for your reasoned responses. I'm beginning to see just how much Python is its own animal. This and/or thing has history; I get it. Links back to the reference documentation is a good idea. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23153 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23158] IDLE's help.txt corrent typo
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[issue17583] IDLE HOWTO
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[issue14944] Setup Usage documentation for pydoc, idle 2to3
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[issue23132] Faster total_ordering
Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Thanks Serhiy. I really like this clean-up. When there is an exception in the user's root comparison operation, the traceback is more intelligible now. If you're interested, here are two additional optimizations: _op_or_eq = ''' op_result = self.%s(other) # Since bool(NotImplemented) is true, the usual special case test isn't needed here return op_result or self == other ''' # setting NotImplemented as a local constant saves one or two global lookups per call exec('def %s(self, other, NotImplemented=NotImplemented):%s' % (opname, opfunc % root), namespace) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23132 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22628] Idle: Tree lines are spaced too close together.
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[issue22956] Improved support for prepared SQL statements
Gerhard Häring added the comment: The low-hanging fruit of executemany() reusing the prepared statement is of course taken. Also, there is a statement cache that is being used transparently. I am against exposing the statement directly via the API. -- assignee: - ghaering nosy: +ghaering priority: normal - low resolution: - rejected ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22956 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue21718] sqlite3 cursor.description seems to rely on incomplete statement parsing for detection
Gerhard Häring added the comment: I have now committed a fix in the pysqlite project at github. https://github.com/ghaering/pysqlite/commit/f67fa9c898a4713850e16934046f0fe2cba8c44c I'll eventually merge it into the Python tree. -- assignee: - ghaering nosy: +ghaering ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue21718 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22382] sqlite3 connection built from apsw connection should raise IntegrityError, not DatabaseError
Gerhard Häring added the comment: Reusing the apsw connection in the sqlite3 module was deprecated a long time ago. It is simply not supported, even if there is still code left in the module that supports this somewhat. This code should then be removed. This closing as wontfix. -- assignee: - ghaering resolution: third party - wont fix status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22382 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue14076] sqlite3 module ignores placeholders in CREATE TRIGGER code
Gerhard Häring added the comment: The sqlite3 module is not at fault here. If it does not work, then is is a restriction of SQLite3 - at which places it accepts bind parameters. This closing as not a bug. -- assignee: - ghaering resolution: - not a bug status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue14076 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23154] MSVC 2013 Express needlessly rebuilds code
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset d53506fe31e1 by Zachary Ware in branch 'default': Closes #23154: Fix unnecessary recompilation of OpenSSL on Windows https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/d53506fe31e1 -- nosy: +python-dev resolution: - fixed stage: - resolved status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23154 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue23132] Faster total_ordering
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[issue23132] Faster total_ordering
Raymond Hettinger added the comment: Serhiy, this is a really nice idea. By removing the additional layer of indirection, the code is more intelligible, runs faster, and the tracebacks make more sense when the user's root comparison raises an exception. Since there are only twelve functions involved, I don't think the function templates give us much of a payoff. Instead, it would be better to just precompute the 12 functions rather than have 5 templates. I've attached a patch relative to Python 3.4. Ideally, I would like this backported to 3.4 to fix the regression in performance and intelligibility. One further possible change is to localize the NotImplemented global variable. This will reduce the overhead of NotImplemented checking to almost nothing and almost completely restore the performance of earlier versions. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file37591/total_ordering.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue23132 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22231] httplib: unicode url will cause an ascii codec error when combined with a utf-8 string header
Bob Chen added the comment: Is there any possibility that we encapsulate urllib.quote into httplib? Because many developers wouldn't know about this utility function. And as I mentioned above, they could have got an unicode url from anywhere inside python, like an API call, without being noticed that it is potentially wrong. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22231 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22231] httplib: unicode url will cause an ascii codec error when combined with a utf-8 string header
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[issue22231] httplib: unicode url will cause an ascii codec error when combined with a utf-8 string header
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[issue22231] httplib: unicode url will cause an ascii codec error when combined with a utf-8 string header
Bob Chen added the comment: How about this patch? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22231 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22956] Improved support for prepared SQL statements
Markus Elfring added the comment: Are you really against benefits from reusing of existing application programming interfaces for the explicit preparation and compilation of SQL statements? It seems that other software contributors like Marc-Andre Lemburg and Tony Locke show more constructive opinions. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/db-sig/2014-December/006133.html https://www.mail-archive.com/db-sig@python.org/msg01829.html http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.db/3784 -- resolution: rejected - later ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22956 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue22231] httplib: unicode url will cause an ascii codec error when combined with a utf-8 string header
Demian Brecht added the comment: utf-8 encoding is only one step in IRI encoding. Correct IRI encoding is non trivial and doesn't fall into the support policy for 2.7 (bug/security fixes). I think that the best that can be done for 2.7 is to enhance the documentation around HTTPConnection.__init__ (unicode hostnames should be IDNA-encoded with the built-in IDNA encoder) and HTTPConnection.request/putrequest noting that unicode paths should be IRI encoded, with a link to RFC 3987. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue22231 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com