Re: Dreaming of new generation IDE
On Feb 3, 12:10 pm, Vladimir Ignatov kmis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am sitting here for quite some time, but usually keep silent ;-) I use Python since 2003 both professionally and for my hobby projects and love it a much. I notice however, that maintaining existing/older python code is may be not so enjoyable task. It may be even harder than supporting old code written in some type of static languages (like Java or C++). Surely dynamic nature of python comes with price. Finally I develop a feeling that strong instrumentation / tools can bring us the best of two worlds. That I am dreaming on is an absolute new type/class of IDE suitable for Python and potentially for other dynamic-type languages. Instead of current text-oriented IDEs, it should be a database-centric and resemble current CAD systems instead of being just fancy text editor. Source text should be an output product of that CAD and not a source material itself. Well. I understand that it is a very ambitious and experimental stuff. Great efforts and motivation needed even to get something runnable. So I am looking for someone to get in kind of virtual partnership. If someone interesting it that soft of stuff, I would like to talk and discuss this system. Vladimir Ignatov The maintenance thing may be true but for me that doesn't outweigh the clear benefits I get from using Python i.s.o. e.g. C++: the fact that I have much less code that is more compact and for me more directly readable is a clear advantage when doing maintance on code I didnt touch for a while. Documenting the essential parameters used with some examples and some logging helps (for me at least...). The type of IDE you are looking for is more something like Rational Rose (e.g. RRT?) type of tooling perhaps? There you CAD components and their statebehavior and the system generates C or C++ code. Regards, Marco -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: integer and string compare, is that correct?
On Jan 10, 1:26 pm, Hellmut Weber m...@hellmutweber.de wrote: Hi, being a causal python user (who likes the language quite a lot) it took me a while to realize the following: l...@sylvester py_count $ python Python 2.6.3 (r263:75183, Oct 26 2009, 12:34:23) [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. max = '5' n = 5 n = max False n + max Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'str' Section 5.9 Comparison describes this. Can someone give me examples of use cases TIA Hellmut -- Dr. Hellmut Weber m...@hellmutweber.de Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081172 D-80803 München-Schwabing mobil +49-172-8450321 please: No DOCs, no PPTs. why: tinyurl.com/cbgq I would say you want to compare semantically an integer value with an integer value so why not: IDLE 1.1.3 max = '5' n = 5 n==(int(max)) True ? (in Python 2.4...) Regards, Marco -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Advanced Python programming book?
On Jan 10, 2:35 pm, flow drnco...@live.com wrote: I've just finished reading a sort of beginner Python book, and I know quite a bit now but I'm looking for a book that can teach me advanced aspects of Python - code optimisation, threading, etc. Any recommendations? Cheers. I like to add this one, which is nice to read just after reading the starters, covers all kinds of topics, and written by someone who knows Python (I think at least). http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596009250/ HTH, Marco -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Do I have to use threads?
On Jan 6, 5:36 am, Philip Semanchuk phi...@semanchuk.com wrote: On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:26 PM, aditya shukla wrote: Hello people, I have 5 directories corresponding 5 different urls .I want to download images from those urls and place them in the respective directories.I have to extract the contents and download them simultaneously.I can extract the contents and do then one by one. My questions is for doing it simultaneously do I have to use threads? No. You could spawn 5 copies of wget (or curl or a Python program that you've written). Whether or not that will perform better or be easier to code, debug and maintain depends on the other aspects of your program(s). bye Philip Yep, the more easier and straightforward the approach, the better: threads are always (programmers')-error-prone by nature. But my question would be: does it REALLY need to be simultaneously: the CPU/OS only has more overhead doing this in parallel with processess. Measuring sequential processing and then trying to optimize (e.g. for user response or whatever) would be my prefered way to go. Less=More. regards, Marco -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Sys.path entries
On Dec 30, 8:13 pm, Alan Harris-Reid a...@baselinedata.co.uk wrote: Hi there, In my sys.path (interpreter only, no application loaded), I have the following strange entries... 'C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\python31.zip'. This file does not exist anywhere (although python31.dll does exist in \windows\system32\), where could it have come from? 'C:\\program files\\python31\\lib\\plat-win'. There is no such directory, although I can see that this has been added by the PYTHONPATH varible in PyConfig.h (when is this loaded?) Is there any way of removing these entries, or are they best left where they are? (I am using Python 3.1 on WinXP) Also, regarding PyConfig.h - is this read every time I start Python.exe? Many thanks, Alan Harris-Reid Hi Alan, Same for me: C:\Windows\system32\python25.zip is in the only non-C: \Python25 directroyfile in my sys.path (under Python 2.5). No idea why it needs it. And also in my case the zip file isnt in that location anyway. So also not 3K only or so. But I have no issues with it (so far :-)), do you? Do you run into problems because of this in the path? HTH, Marco -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
