RE: Django as exemplary design

2010-05-04 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

 From: alex23

 (I also think there's value to be gained in studying _bad_ code,
 too...)

Oh, very true.  And not just true for python.  But, only if an 'expoert'
points out why it is bad and provides an alternative.  And saying things
like, it isn't pyhonic or that such and such is a more pythonic way
is NOT helpful.







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RE: Rounding up to the next 100

2010-01-21 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 From: noydb

 If one has a floating number as a string, is there a spiffy way to
 round that string-number UP to the nearest 100?
 
 XstrNmbr = 3579.127893 -- would want to round that to 3600.


What's wrong with round?  round( XstrNmbr, -2 ) seems to do the trick.
Or do you want to get rid of the decimal point as well?


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RE: Rounding up to the next 100

2010-01-21 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 From: Arnaud Delobelle
 
 
   XstrNmbr = 3579.127893
 
 I meant
  XstrNmbr = 3579.127893
 
   round(float(XstrNmbr), -2)
  3600.0

Ah, then you will need to cast it first.

 XstrNmbr = '3579.127893'
 round(float(XstrNmbr) ,-2)
3600.0



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RE: Porn Addiction Solutions?

2008-10-08 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 From: Dotan Cohen
 
 2008/10/8 Support Desk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I got a solution, cutt it off, and then Kill yourself.
 
 
 Cut what off? The OP is female.

Are you sure about that?  :)















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RE: You advice please

2008-08-13 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Spealman
 
 God forbid I try to make a joke.

No kidding!  As a lurker newbie, I don't mind one bit.  Actually, I have
yet to meet a person that codes in Ruby that doesn't also do Python.  I
have met many Python coders that have never even looked at Ruby.  

Your joke may have more truth in it than you realized.  And upper
management reads the *V*logs and believe the hype.  We should be
prepared to counter the argument.



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RE: Change PC to Win or Windows

2008-07-22 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 From: Derek Martin

 The term PC is commonly used in
 English, in the United States and other English speaking countries, to
 mean a computer running Microsoft Windows.  

That isn't quite true.

My kids are heading off to college and are in the market for laptops.
The question they had for the salesman was if there was anything other
than Vista available.  I was so proud.  His response was that they no
longer bother with XP.  Another customer suggested that they look at
Apple and another customer suggested dual booting it with Ubuntu ( why
not Fedora? ).  I was shocked when I asked if either were in the field.
Nope, a mechanic and doctor.

While it might have been true that PCs were becoming synonymous with
Windows boxes, I think that tide is heading back the other way.
Particularly when I hear that the Apple boxes are becoming very popular
as they work better with iPods and iPhones than does Windows.








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RE: Please unregister this mail-address out of mailing-list.

2008-06-05 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

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 I am writing this letter to unsubscribe this mail-address from python 
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RE: Fwd: NUCULAR fielded text searchable indexing

2007-10-10 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

 From: Grant Edwards
 
 Anyway, I apologize for my attempt at humor, since it appears
 to have somehow offended.

Why apologize?  If someone doesn't like the name given to a piece of
software by its author(s), screw them.  If I find the software useful,
I'll use it.  Even if its called 'bouncingBetty'.  Actually, I might try
it, just because of the name, but you get my point.


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RE: Program inefficiency?

2007-09-29 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 the program works great except for one thing. It's significantly
 slower through the later files in the search then through the early
 ones... Before anyone criticizes, I recognize that that middle section
 could be simplified with a for loop... I just haven't cleaned it
 up...
 
 The problem is that the first 300 files take about 10-15 seconds and
 the last 300 take about 2 minutes... If we do more than about 1500
 files in one run, it just hangs up and never finishes...
 
 Is there a solution here that I'm missing? What am I doing that is so
 inefficient?

You did not mention the OS, but because you are using
pathname\editfile.txt, it sounds like you are using an MS OS.  From
past experience with various MS OSes, I found that as the number of
files in a directory increases the slower your process runs for each
file.  You might try putting these files into multiple sub-directories.


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RE: Program inefficiency?

2007-09-29 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 -Original Message-
 From: stdazi
 On Sep 29, 6:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You did not mention the OS, but because you are using
  pathname\editfile.txt, it sounds like you are using an MS OS.
From
  past experience with various MS OSes, I found that as the number of
  files in a directory increases the slower your process runs for each
  file.  
 
 how so?
 

I said sounds like, which means I was guessing.  In *nix ( the ones I
know ), it would have been pathname/editfile.txt.  But, it was the
file extension that caught my eye.  I had a project a while back that
required a mass conversion of jpeg files and ran into what sounded like
a similar problem.  


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RE: Program inefficiency?

2007-09-29 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 -Original Message-
 From: thebjorn
 
 On Sep 29, 9:32 pm, stdazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sep 29, 6:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   You did not mention the OS, but because you are using
   pathname\editfile.txt, it sounds like you are using an 
 MS OS.  From
   past experience with various MS OSes, I found that as the 
 number of
   files in a directory increases the slower your process 
 runs for each
   file.
 
  how so?
 
 Not entirely sure why, but some of the ms docs allude to the fact that
 there is a linked list involved (at least for fat-style disks).
 

Wow!  Talk about defending one's self ( me ).  I took stdazi's question
to mean why I thought it was an MS OS issue.  And, yes, you are correct
about the linked-list.  Although, I do not know if that was the reason
for the my problem.


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RE: OT Annoying Habits (Was: when format strings attack)

2007-01-20 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

::CLAP CLAP::

thank you!

I have been in the newsgroups for over 12 years and I never cared about the 
top/bottom post silliness.  All I care about is that the message is clearly 
written.  Everything else is doggerel.

 -Original Message-
 From: Carroll, Barry
 
 Personally, I don't think top-posting is the most annoying newsgroup
 habit.  I think it's making a big fuss about minor inconveniences.  

::CLAP CLAP::

thank you!

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written.  Everything else is doggerel.


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RE: merits of Lisp vs Python

2006-12-11 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

After 394 postings in this thread, you all have convinced me.  I am dropping 
all of my python code and switching to Lisp.

thank-you


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RE: v2.3, 2.4, and 2.5's GUI is slow for me

2006-12-01 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth


 -Original Message-
 From: John Salerno

 
 I don't use IDLE too much anymore, just for quick tests, but 

Just curious.  I have tried IDLE, but stopped using it after going through a 
few of the tutorials.  I just type things in at the 'python' prompt, regardless 
of which platform I am working on; Linux, AIX or Windows.  But, then again, my 
code winds up in a batch process or part of a web app.  

Is there something cool I am missing?
















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RE: hundreds of seconds?

2006-10-11 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 How can I access partial seconds on the system clock?

What is wrong with time.time()?


 import time
 time.time()
1160578386.0109401
 time.time()
1160578386.87324
 time.time()
1160578387.5790291
 x = time.time()
 y = time.time()
 z = y-x
 z
4.6488111019134521

The difference between x and y is the number of seconds between 'polling's of 
the OS.  There are some issues with precision.  


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RE: python loops

2006-08-31 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth


 -Original Message-
 From: Kay Schluehr
 
 
  python:
  while i  length:
  i += 1
 
 As AlbaClause had demonstrated you can iterate over indices as well
 using the for-statement and the range() function. But you can also
 combine iterating over elements and indices at the same time using the
 builtin enumerate() type:
 
 for i, item in enumerate((s1,s2)):
 print i,item
 
 0  s1
 1  s2


Newbie here.

I thought the xrange was preferred?  for x in xrange(length):

But, I thought that was too obvious an answer and I was missing something.  I 
tried your code but it would not work.  Then I realized I was behind the times 
with python2.2  It works in, at least, python 2.4


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RE: How do you use this list ?

2006-06-28 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth


-Original Message-
From: Grant Edwards

 Actually having mailing lists send you mail is insane.

Once upon a time, I would have agreed.  However, it is becoming increasingly 
difficuilt to get to the newgroups directly from the workplace.  The only 
recourse is to use the mailing lists, such as those provided by various sites, 
such as python.org.  This might also account for why so many folks top post 
rather than bottom post as postings look like email.  And in a corporate 
setting, most people use top posting for email, pushing the history down and 
out of the way.


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RE: John Bokma harassment

2006-05-24 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
!
!
-Original Message-
From: John Bokma


And ain't it cool that reporting Xah's abuse might stop both?

-- 
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Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/



CRAP!  I am not sure which of these idiots is worse; John or Xah.  Although, 
judging from other folks' responses to Xah Lee's posts, there is some value.  
John's stuff is just pure crap.  I wasn't going to support Xah, but, now, I 
think I will.  


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RE: MSSQL LIKE and IN statements in ADO problem

2006-01-18 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth


huh?

This seems to work just fine for me...


 name = '%raj%'
 test = SELECT * FROM tb_name WHERE firstname LIKE '%s' % name
 print test
SELECT * FROM tb_name WHERE firstname LIKE '%raj%'




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Subject: Re: MSSQL LIKE and IN statements in ADO problem


Can't you get rid of the Create Parameter part and directly pass along
the value you are looking for? Something like...

name = 'raj'
cmd.CommandText= \
SELECT * FROM tb_name WHERE firstname LIKE %%%s % name

This way the value of the name variable gets passed along when the
CommandText method is invoked. BTW, this looks too painfully much like
Visual Basic than Python :-) Just kidding (kind of)

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RE: Tuples

2005-12-16 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

Well, it works for me and x is a list, not a tuple.  Or am I reading too
much into your subject line?

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Subject: Tuples


Let's say I make a program something like follows:

x=[]
x.append([1,2,3])
x.append([4,5,6])
print x
print x[0]
print x[0][1]
x[0][1]=5

Okay, everything works here as expected except the last line. Why won't
this work? Thanks for the help!


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Which is worse, Xah's stuff or everyone's effing crap about it? And don't even get me started on that MS bashing or top posting nonsense

2005-11-02 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

Actually, the continuous complaining and ranting about Xah's 'postings' are
far worse than Xah's actual postings.  I can filter his stuff to /dev/null.
The drivel that follows is almost as bad as the moronic effluent about how
extra-python things should be done or not be done or the legal notices that
one's company tacks on at the end of messages.  

for x in ( 'Grow up', 'Shut up', ' and get a life' ):
print 'Life could be good'

-Original Message-
From: every idiot on this list, now including me...

 Something I don't quite understand, if people think it is troll, just
 ignore it. What I see is that people are feeding it by commenting about
 either him or his post. I saw a number of threads ended up that
 way(like the rather long one about Microsoft).

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RE: users of pycurl here?

2005-10-07 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

How about doing an 'ls -la' once you have connected to the server?  That
returns a listing of the files with the size in bytes.

-Original Message-
From: Michele Simionato

I am having a hard time in finding out how to retrieve information about the
*size* of files I want to download from an FTP site. Should I send a QUOTE
SIZE command to the ftp server or is there an easier way?
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RE: Using command line args on Windows

2005-10-05 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

I'll assume that you are not familiar with Windows, so forgive me if you
know this.

1) Go to a command prompt.  

The location of this depends on which OS you are running.  But, you can go
to Start / Run... and type in cmd or command.  This will give you a window
with a 'DOS' prompt.

2) Type path=path;c:\python24\ 
c:\python24\ is where I have python installed.  I won't get into how to make
this permanent.

3) type python and you have the command line shell you know and love.


If this does not work for you, let me know.

Michael



-Original Message-
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Subject: Using command line args on Windows


Hello-

I'm stuck on a Windows machine today and would love to fully play with
and test a simple python script.  I want to be able to type python
myscript myarg somewhere.  Is there anything out there to help me?  My
main concern is playing with the myarg in the sys.argv list.  I've been
mucking around with IDLE without much success.


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RE: Plotting points to screen

2005-09-26 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
Jason,

YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

In other words, how well it works for you depends on a lot of things.  You
need to determine the suitability for a given task.  :)

Michael



personal note to Randy Bush
  Don't like the legal notice at the end of my email?  Too bad, you can
stuff it where the sun don't shine.
/personal note to Randy Bush


-Original Message-
From: Jason
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:46 PM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: Plotting points to screen


One question, that's twice in as many days that someone has said YMMV.

What's it mean!?

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RE: HTML tags optimization

2005-09-02 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

Maybe you can get some ideas over at http://validator.w3.org/docs/.  At
least they have the whole parser thing worked out.

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hi all,

i want to do some optimizations for HTML tags,
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RE: how to join two Dictionary together?

2005-08-30 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
update works like append for lists

a = {}
a['a']='a'
a['c']='c'
b={}
b['b'] = 'b'
c={}
c.update(a)
c.update(b)



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dict1={...something...}

dict2={...somethind else ..}

dict1 + dict2


that's does works ..:(, it's not like List...


anyone can tell me how to get it?

thanks in advance

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RE: Newbie Question

2005-08-19 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
Tom,

Well, as one newbie to another, I tried this;

 x = '22,44,66,88,asd,asd,23,43,55'
 y = eval(x)
 y
(22, 44, 66, 88, 'asd,asd', '23,43,55')

given that x some how comes from a single line in your file.

BTW, do you get the tutor list as well?  My guess is that the 'experts' over
here might prefer that the newbies go over there for stuff like this.  

And now, a question for the experts.  Does anyone have a pointer as to why
my code might be dangerous?  I get the feeling that eval might not be a
'good' ( safe ) thing to use.

Michael

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I have a file that contains many lines, each of which consists of a string 
of comma-separated variables, mostly floats but some strings. Each line 
looks like an obvious tuple to me. How do I save each line of this file as a

tuple rather than a string? Or, is that the right way to go?

Thank you.

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a little trouble passing values to Oracle using bind variables

2005-05-17 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
All,

As the subject line says, I am having some trouble passing bind variables to
Oracle.  When I pass a printable string value, such as 'NM', I get data.
When I try to pass a non-printable character, such as 'return' - chr(13), I
get no data back.  I can't simply make NactionCode = chr(13), as python
would change the value of NactionCode to '\r' and Oracle sees this as a two
byte character, and not chr(13).  I have looked into how Oracle might accept
something like '\x00' for chr(0), but to no avail.  

Any thoughts?

thanks,
Michael



def goGetIt( NactivityDt, NactionCode ):

dataQuery = '''select a, b, c
   from %s 
   where activityDt  = :NactivityDt
 and actionCode  = :NactionCode
   order by %s
''' % ( schema.tableName )

dbm.cursor.execute(dataQuery, NactivityDt = activityDt, NactionCode =
actionCode )
result = dbm.cursor.fetchall()

return result

NactivityDt = '12-apr-2005'
NactionCode = 'NM'
act1 = goGetIt( NactivityDt, NactionCode )

NactivityDt = '12-apr-2005'
NactionCode = 'chr(13)'
act2 = goGetIt( NactivityDt, NactionCode )

NactivityDt = '12-apr-2005'
NactionCode = chr(13)
act3 = goGetIt( NactivityDt, NactionCode )
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RE: Launch file in Notepad

2005-05-12 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

try b1=c:/test.txt

It seems to work for me on Windows 2000.

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Newbie question:

I'm trying to lauch Notepad from Python to open a textfile:

import os
b1=c:\test.txt
os.system('notepad.exe ' + b1)

However, the t of test is escaped by the \, resulting in Notepad trying 
to open c: est.txt.

How do I solve this?

(By the way, b1 comes from a command line parameter, so the user enters 
c:\test.txt as command line parameter.)

George
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RE: How do I parse this ? regexp ?

2005-04-27 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth


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 I want to remove the commas, and square brackets [ and ] 
 characters and
 rewrite this whole line (and all the ones following in a text file
 where only space would be a delimiter. How do I do this ?
 

If all you want to do to the data as you read in and write out a line, how
about string.replace('[',' ')?

x = 'as[df]as,df'
x = x.replace(']',' ')
x = x.replace('[',' ')
x = x.replace(',',' ')
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rudeness was: Python licence again

2005-04-23 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
Laszlo,

 Is it something like 'center' or 'color' for Americans and 'centre' or
'colour' for British people?

Yes, exactly.  

 (Sorry to be offtopic)

No need to apologize.  I started to read the postings on this list and was
dismayed at the depth of rudeness on here.  I thought that pythonistas might
be a little more patient/tolerant.  I guess I was wrong.  I understood
exactly what you wanted to say, I just didn't have an answer.  I did find it
amusing that the person who incorrectly corrected you, was in fact,
incorrect.  

I wonder, how many others out there find that the documentation and
references materials seem to be written for someone that already knows the
answer, but are indecipherable, at times, for those that don't know the
answer.

thanks,
Michael
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RE:

2005-04-16 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
All,

I have been going through the manuals and not having much luck with the
following code.  This is basically an issue of giving 'split' multiple
patterns to split a string.  If it had an ignore case switch, the problem
would be solved.  Instead, I have to code the following, which works fine
for a single byte string.  What can I do when I want to look for strings?

 test = 'A big Fat CAt'
 A = test.split('A')
 print A
['', ' big Fat C', 't']
 a = []
 for x in xrange(len(A)):
... tmp = A[x].split('a')
... for y in xrange(len(tmp)):
... a.append(tmp[y])
...

 a
['', ' big F', 't C', 't']



It is odd about the help files, after I figure out how to do something, the
help makes sense.  Before hand is another story...  Are there any others out
there that share this misery? 

thanks,
Michael
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RE: trouble to print array contents using slice operator

2005-04-16 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
print a[10:15] 
or 
print a[10:]



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Dear all,

   In Php array_slice function base
we can print array contents as per our desire
eg)

$a = array(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15);
$arr = array_slice($a,10,10);

this function will print 11,12,13,14,15

But I try to print the same thing in python
using slice operator 

eg) print a[10:10] 

This statement print [] empty array.  

How I need to get my desired output like php
array_slice function?

with regards
Prabahar



 


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RE: newbie: dictionary - howto get key value

2005-03-10 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth

how about?

test = 3   #find person with this number
for x in xrange(len(phone.keys())):
print x
if phone[phone.keys()[x]] == test:
   print phone.keys()[x]
   break

Being a newbie myself, I'd love a little critique on the above.  Be kind as
I don't know what else needs to be done in Gerhard's process.  Of course, we
could put this loop in a call and return the name


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Hello,

I use a dictionary:

phone = {'mike':10,'sue':8,'john':3}

phone['mike']   -- 10

I want to know who has number 3?

3 --  'john'

How to get it in the python way ?

Thanks
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