Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )
> On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:09, Johanne Fairchild via Python-list > wrote: > > Sigil is noun. Definitions: > > A seal; a signet. > A sign or an image considered magical. > A seal; a signature. Creating Sigils The origin and design process informing Urbit's generative user avatar system, Sigils. https://urbit.org/blog/creating-sigils Implementation example: https://github.com/textprotocol/sigil -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python app setup
Hi, I've installed latest version of Python 3.9.5 and downloaded for Windows. Once I click on the Python app, I'm getting command screen and not sure on the next action. could you please help me to fix this issue. Python 3.9.5 (tags/v3.9.5:0a7dcbd, May 3 2021, 17:27:52) [MSC v.1928 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> Thanks, Murali PA Disclaimer: The information in this email is the property of IBM and may be IBM Confidential and privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken in reliance on it is prohibited. If you receive this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: noob import question
On May 19, 2006, at 15:33, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: And it seems as if you have some JAVA-background, putting one class in one file called the same as the class. Don't do that, it's a stupid restriction in JAVA and should be avoided in PYTHON. Restrictive or not, what's so fundamentally devious in putting a class declaration in a separate file whose name is that of the declared class (class Queue - Queue.py)? Sounds like a handy way of organizing your code, no? Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Is python very slow compared to C
On Feb 12, 2006, at 16:11, Steven D'Aprano wrote: availability of skilled programmers is absolutely critical for the use of a language. By that measure, we should all be using Java, no? TIOBE Programming Community Index http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm By comparison, even Forth gives 13 million plus hits, and who uses Forth? Anyone writing in English: http://www.answers.com/forthr=67 Lua appears to be *too* lightweight, without even classes or inheritance, Programming in Lua Object-Oriented Programming http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html and a single data type where Python has dicts, sets, tuples and lists. Lua gives you the power; you build the mechanisms. -- Roberto Ierusalimschy, Programming in Lua, December 2003 http://www.lua.org/pil/12.1.2.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Is python very slow compared to C
On Feb 12, 2006, at 18:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Did you actually bother to read the page you linked to? I did 8^) Lua — Story of O http://alt.textdrive.com/lua/19/lua-story-of-o Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Is python very slow compared to C
On Feb 13, 2006, at 06:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if we use market penetration as measure, Perl seems to be easier for people ? Perl: Shell scripts/awk/sed are not enough like programming languages. Python: Perl is a kludge. What Languages Fix http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Private class?
On Apr 21, 2005, at 15:13, codecraig wrote: ...so that is what I am thinking. However, i guess my issue is how to make EventBus a singleton or prevent it from being instaniated and making it's methods statically accessible. Not directly related to your question, but... you may want to take a look at NSNotification Co. for, er, inspiration :) Introduction to Notifications http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ Notifications/index.html Here is a -gasp- Java implementation as well: http://dev.alt.textdrive.com/file/ZOE/Frameworks/SZFoundation/ SZNotification.java Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Apr 09, 2005, at 21:16, Soy Bomb wrote: Sounds like the USA 2005. http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2005/nq050329.gif Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Web application toolkit recommendation?
On Apr 05, 2005, at 02:01, Stewart Midwinter wrote: I don't want to hear anything about Zope - it's way too complex for my needs or desires. Other than that, fire away! I have an inexplicable attraction to CherryPy. Perhaps something to do with its name 8^) http://www.cherrypy.org/ http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/CherryPyTutorial Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [newbie] smtplib.login()?
On Mar 25, 2005, at 11:04, PA wrote: What am I doing wrong? Why is the user name being encoded twice? Ok... turns out that this is/was a bug in the python smtplib as recently as Dec 6 2004: Patch #1075928: AUTH PLAIN in smtplib. smtplib can not log in to some server using command AUTH PLAIN, it sends ``user\0user\0pass'' to the server, but ``\0user\0pass'' has better compatibility. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/python/python/dist/src/Lib/ smtplib.py Sigh... Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: About Databases...
On Mar 16, 2005, at 12:59, Leif B. Kristensen wrote: Anyway, I'd recommend a closer study of PostgreSQL for anyone interested in a good RDBMS. Talking of which, I would recommend to take a serious look at FrontBase: http://www.frontbase.com/ Excellent database, running on pretty much anything. While not open source, they do offer a free, unlimited license (E-Starter). Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python - what is the fastest database ?
On Feb 28, 2005, at 13:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What type database do they use / software ? Hmmm... they don't use a database in the traditional sense of the term. http://www-db.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[VERDICT] - V01: The Lazaridis Failure - No One Can Help!
On Feb 13, 2005, at 11:44, Diez B. Roggisch wrote: If this is goodbye I can't say I'm sorry. Don't feed the trolls - as tempting as it is 8^) Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SCons build tool speed
On Feb 13, 2005, at 12:20, Neil Hodgson wrote: http://www.scons.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GoFastButton Out of curiosity, why does scons uses MD5 by default? Is that not, er, somewhat heavy handed for most practical purpose? Would not some sort of lightweight CRC be good enough to start with? http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/tech_report/node3.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)
On Feb 10, 2005, at 15:01, Irmen de Jong wrote: Is xdrlib the only option? I would expect that it is fast and safe because it (the xdr spec) has been around for so long. XDR? Like Sun's XDR: External Data Representation standard? http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1014.html http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1832.html How does XDR copes with Unicode these days? Alternatively, perhaps there is a ASN.1 DER library in python? http://asn1.elibel.tm.fr/en/standards/index.htm Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: A great Alan Kay quote
On Feb 10, 2005, at 19:43, Francis Girard wrote: I think he's a bit nostalgic. Steve Wart about why Smalltalk never caught on: http://hoho.dyndns.org/~holger/smalltalk.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)
On Feb 10, 2005, at 22:21, Irmen de Jong wrote: PS the xdr format is not self-describing in the way that marshal and pickle streams are. That is a big limitiation for what I need it for so xdr seems to drop off my radar. Is an ASN.1 stream self-describing? Not sure how much self-describing you want it to be, but, yes it can be as formal as you want it to be... ... Abstract Syntax Notation One (ASN.1) is a formal language for abstractly describing messages... Sorry if this is off-topic, I didn't follow the thread from the very beginning, but wouldn't something like YAML work for you perhaps? http://yaml.org/ Or even something more, er, exotic: https://alt.textdrive.com/pl/ Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)
On Feb 10, 2005, at 22:55, Irmen de Jong wrote: Also, it seems ill-fit for efficient machine-to-machine communication... Well, then, if you are looking for industrial strength quality, ASN.1 is the way to go. After all, a good chunk of the telecom infrastructure is using it. Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: XDR? (was Re: is there a safe marshaler?)
On Feb 10, 2005, at 22:55, Irmen de Jong wrote: Perhaps, but the spec makes my skin crawl. Perhaps I could interest you in JSON then: It is easy for humans to read and write. It is easy for machines to parse and generate. http://www.crockford.com/JSON/index.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[OT] post-structuralist object oriented system
For your entertainment: Luas Story of O http://alt.textdrive.com/lua/19/lua-story-of-o Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: what's OOP's jargons and complexities?
On Jan 29, 2005, at 04:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus, a man which such cinematographic tastes [1] cannot be entirely bad :P http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/Personal_dir/favorite_movies.html The site proves he is evil. Grep Titus if you have a strong stomach. I'm sure you did not get that far. I went all the way down with Ms Carrera :P http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/Personal_dir/porn_movies.html At least give him credit for listing Caro's and Jeunet's La Cité des enfants perdus: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112682/ After all, it's not always easy Being John Malkovich: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0120601/ Specially when you are Leaving Las Vegas. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0113627/ In any case, these are just Sex, Lies, and Videotape: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0098724/ Perhaps getting Bound to those Heavenly Creatures is too Exotica for you? http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0115736/ http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0110005/ http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0109759/ But lets not play The Crying Game: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104036/ This is all Pulp Fiction anyway: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/ Time to Run Lola Run to Brazil: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0130827/ http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/ Before Blade Runner tracks you down: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/ Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: what's OOP's jargons and complexities?
On Jan 29, 2005, at 08:34, jacob navia wrote: First article that demistifies this OO centered approach in quite a long time. http://www.google.com/search?q=OOP+criticismie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=q=OOP+debunkedbtnG=Search Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The next Xah-lee post contest
On Jan 29, 2005, at 14:35, Steve wrote: Write up the next Xah Lee post ! The requirement are: a) The post should talk about a single language, although the example code needn't adhere to that restriction. b) It should explain the style, structure and design of some code snippet/program, though not necessarily of the same code snippet/program mentioned in the post. c) Should be written in English ... respect to English grammar is not mandatory. d) It *must* be flammable. Oh, my... this is going to be so much fun 8^) Here's my contribution (tho' I'm not really in my most creative frame of mind): Master the ways of the Xah, young Steve: Pathetically Elational Regex Language, aka Pathological Euphoric Retching Language (A commentary on Perl) http://www.xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/perlr.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The next Xah-lee post contest
On Jan 29, 2005, at 14:35, Steve wrote: Here's my contribution (tho' I'm not really in my most creative frame of mind): Not being very creative myself, here is a contribution by proxy: Unlike Java programmers, who are hip on the outside, dreary conformists on the inside, Smalltalk programmers are a bunch of faded flower children who listen to Mantovani and the Star Wars soundtrack. They are 68% more likely to be Clinton supporters and 94% of them laughed when Bob Dole fell down in the last election campaign. Most Smalltalk programmers smoke weak pot and hide their stash from their kids (who are Java programmers). -- Steve Wart, why Smalltalk never caught on http://hoho.dyndns.org/~holger/smalltalk.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The next Xah-lee post contest
On Jan 29, 2005, at 15:32, rbt wrote: Unix donkey! You not elegant. You have poor design. Sloppy Perl monkey! You be lazy! You code very very bad. Xah know all! Follow The True Path, follow The Xah Way To Enlightenment: The Unix Pestilence http://www.xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/freebooks.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: what's OOP's jargons and complexities?
On Jan 29, 2005, at 00:10, Xah Lee wrote: Tomorrow i shall cover more manmade jargons and complexities arising out of the OOP hype, in particular Java. Good read. Keep them coming :) Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: what's OOP's jargons and complexities?
On Jan 29, 2005, at 01:09, Martin Ambuhl wrote: Xah Lee wrote his usual masturbatory crap: Well... I have to admit that I tremendously enjoyed such masturbatory crap (sic). Eagerly looking toward the next installment. Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: what's OOP's jargons and complexities?
Hi Dan, On Jan 29, 2005, at 02:31, Dan Perl wrote: At first I thought you were being sarcastic. For once, no. Something which is pretty much out of character I have to confess 8^) I doubt that now. Iindulge my curiosity please and tell us what you enjoy about it. Well... perhaps it's a question of timing... I'm trying to keep up with some New Year resolutions: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/loty/ And therefore learning a little language named Lua: http://www.lua.org/about.html The catch is that I have been doing OOP for well over a decade now, so me first Lua perversion is to build an OO system of sort: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.lua.general/13515 Ironically enough, Xah Lee's post spelled out quite incisively all the things I was attempting to do in Lua, but from the opposite point of view. Therefore my sincere enjoyment of his post :) Even though Mr Lee seems to have quite a reputation in some circles, I have to admit I enjoyed reading some of his, er, more convoluted essays as well. Plus, a man which such cinematographic tastes [1] cannot be entirely bad :P http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/Personal_dir/favorite_movies.html Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Tao Scripting Language 0.8.5 beta released!
On Jan 27, 2005, at 22:54, Limin Fu wrote: I found that, a language with simple syntax, convenient text processing functionality, powerful numeric computation capability, and simple C/C++ interfaces would be very useful You bet. Have you looked at Lua? http://www.lua.org/about.html Or perhaps Io? http://www.iolanguage.com/About/ Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Tao Scripting Language 0.8.5 beta released!
On Jan 27, 2005, at 23:42, Limin Fu wrote: at that time I didn't heard about Lua. I knew it about 2 or 3 months after I began to implement Tao. So, compared to Lua for example, what does Tao brings to the table that you found worthwhile? Cheers -- PA, Onnay Equitursay http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python without OO
On Jan 26, 2005, at 20:39, Francis Girard wrote: When I think that comapnies pay big money for these kind of monsters after having seen a few ppt slides about it, it makes me shiver. Right... but... since when does an implementation language of any sort save a project from its own doom? Project fails for many reasons but seldomly because one language is better or worst than another one. Cheers -- PA http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python without OO
On Jan 26, 2005, at 21:35, Francis Girard wrote: Project fails for many reasons but seldomly because one language is better or worst than another one. I think you're right. But you have to choose the right tools that fit your needs. But I think that's what you meant anyway. Yes. But even with the best tool and the best intents, projects still fail. In fact, most IT projects are considered failures: http://www.economist.com/business/PrinterFriendly.cfm?Story_ID=3423238 Cheers -- PA http://alt.textdrive.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
