Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)
Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. > Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing to run it as root. I honestly haven't tried. Maybe I should... 樂 I have an old laptop running XUbuntu 22.04 which I generally only use to compile the most recent branches on GitHub (main, 3.12, & 3.13 at the moment). Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyCon
> > > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time! > > s/haven’t/having/ > No need to explain/correct. We understand you are excited. Many of us have been in the same state before. ;-) Enjoy, Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: xkcd.com/353 ( Flying with Python )
> > > https://xkcd.com/1306/ > > what does SIGIL mean? > > I think its' a Perl term, referring to the $/@/# symbols in front of > identifiers. > I had a vague recollection of hearing it elsewhere (*Game of Thrones,* on the armies' battle flags?), but didn't know what it meant. Google tells me: *an inscribed or painted symbol considered to have magical power.* So, they're more than just line noise. They confer power on their users... Perhaps '@' in the context of decorators is the most prominent example in Python, since decorators technically don't allow the programmer to do something they couldn't before, but are now are used everywhere, a key feature of many applications and modules. Magical-ly, y'rs, Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Testing (sorry)
> > Here is a typical bounce message that I get: > > : host mail.python.org[188.166.95.178] said: > 450-4.3.2 > Service currently unavailable 450 4.3.2 > > Some time after I get one of these messages I re-send the post. Usually > it gets through then. > Looks kinda like greylisting to me. I'm pretty sure that's one of the tool in the mail.python.org chain. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Testing (sorry)
I can't explain the delays, but will note that the gate-news program on the server runs every 5 minutes via cron. There are multiple moving parts in the overall system. You'll probably get a more useful answer from postmas...@python.org. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: test-ignore
> > True, but did the poster really need to send another one to say "yes, > that worked"? > Maybe to test the bidirectionality of the gateway? 路 If the messages stop I think we can let it die. It's not like this sort of activity is a regular occurrence. (A bigger problem for me was always Usenet posters who used fake email addresses.) Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: test-ignore
> > > Test post to see if my Newsgroup post program is working. > > Aim your test messages at alt.test, please. > I agree that basic Usenet connectivity messages should go to alt.test. It's not clear from the original post, but if the poster's aim was to see if posts to comp.lang.python traverse the gateway and show up on this list, then alt.test won't help. Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Question about garbage collection
> I do have several circular references. My experience is that if I do not > take some action to break the references when closing the session, the > objects remain alive. Below is a very simple program to illustrate this. > > Am I missing something? All comments appreciated. Python has normal reference counting, but also has a cyclic garbage collector. Here's plenty of detail about how it works: https://devguide.python.org/internals/garbage-collector/index.html Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python 3.11.5 Pip Issue
> I downloaded Python 3.11.5, and there was nothing in the “Scripts” file, > and there was no Pip. I would like to know why. > Can't help with the empty/missing Scripts folder. Does running python -m ensurepip get you a working pip? Which you should then run as python -m pip ... Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Have you some experience / link about difference between Python builded with gcc and clang?
> > Have you compiled it optimized (--enable-optimizations --with-lto)? > Nope, just ./configure. Further investigation is left as an exercise for the reader. :-) Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Have you some experience / link about difference between Python builded with gcc and clang?
I didn't have clang installed. It was just "sudo apt install clang-8". From there all I had to do was build Python from scratch twice, install pyperformance using pip after the first build, then run it after each build. It's not difficult. Going beyond that right now is not an itch I need to scratch though. I have other things on my plate. Skip On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 6:11 PM Marco Sulla < mail.python@marco.sulla.e4ward.com> wrote: > Oooohhh uff, I have to install latest clang... or better, compile > it as I did for gcc. And I have to read the install docs to see if > there's some trick to optimize it... and I have to read the docs of > pyperformance too (I only used pyperf until now)... > > Oh well, tomorrow :-D > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 00:58, Skip Montanaro > wrote: > >> > >> Have you compiled it optimized (--enable-optimizations --with-lto)? > > > > > > Nope, just ./configure. Further investigation is left as an exercise for > the reader. :-) > > > > Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
