Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-10 Thread Matt Goodall
Steve Holden wrote:
 Sullivan WxPyQtKinter wrote:
 
Hi, everyone.  Simply put, what I need most now is a python lib to
generate simple HTML.

I am now using XML to store my lab report records. I found python
really convinient to manipulate XML, so I want to make a small on-line
CGI program to help my colleagues to build their lab report records
into XML, for storage, HTML display (for others to browse) and search.

With python's standard lib, the DOM object could realize the XML
storage and search quite easily, but for HTML generation,  it is a
great headache.

I tried to turn to the in-line server-side python script PSP(something
like asp and php) instead of CGI. However, since the report data is
always of very complex data structures, it is really hard to write most
things in-line. For example, a PCR reaction is expected to be shown in
this format or alike on a web browser:

PCR
Sample: Sm1032
Operater: SullivanZ
TimeStamp: hh:mm mm-dd-
Reaction:
   Reagent1:
 Name:
 Concentration: mM
 Volumn:XXX uL
   Reagent2:



Since there are hundreds of PCR reaction and other operations in the
lab report, in-line PSP is not a suitable solution. But writing HTML
directly with print statement is a great pain.

Will XSTL be useful? Is my problem somewho related with XML-SIG?
Looking forward to your precious suggestion.

 
 The triple-quoted string with string substitution is your friend. Try 
 writing something(s) like:
 
 results = {'secnum': 1, 'type': 'string', 'color': 'blue'}
 
 print \
 h1Section %(secnum)s/h1
 pElements of type %(type)s should be coloured %(color)s/p
  % results

Don't forget that you may need to escape the application's data for
inclusion in HTML:

results = {'secnum': 1, 'type': 'string', 'color': 'blue',
'user':'Matt Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]'}

print \
h1Section %(secnum)s/h1
pElements of type %(type)s should be coloured %(color)s/p
pContributed by: %(user)s/p
 % results

Will print:

h1Section 1/h1
pElements of type string should be coloured blue/p
pContributed by: Matt Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]/p

The '' and '' surrounding my email address breaks the HTML.

To fix that you need to escape results['user'] with cgi.escape or
xml.sax.saxutils.escape. Oh, and don't forget to escape anything
destined for an HTML attribute differently, see sax.saxutils.quoteattr.

A triple-quoted string is beautifully simple but it's not quite as much
a friend as it might initially seem. ;-)

I don't intend to get into a XML- vs text- based templating flame war
;-) but, IMHO, the solution is to use a templating language that
understands where the value is used in the template.

Kid is a great example of an XML-based templating language but there are
many others. Some have probably been mentioned in this thread already.

Another interesting solutions is to use something like Nevow's tags module:

from nevow import flat, tags as T

results = {'secnum': 1, 'type': 'string', 'color': 'blue',
'user':'Matt Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]'}

doc = T.div[
T.h1['Section ', results['secnum']],
T.p['Elements of type ', results['type'],
' should be coloured ', results['color']],
T.p['Contributed by: ', results['user']],
]

print flat.flatten(doc)

This time you get valid HTML with no effort whatsoever:

divh1Section 1/h1pElements of type string should be coloured
blue/ppContributed by: Matt Goodall
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/p/div

You even get to write HTML in a slightly more Pythonic way (even if it
does abuse Python just a little :wink:), but Nevow will happily load a
template containing actual XHTML from disk if you prefer.

The only real problem using Nevow for this is that you will need to
install Twisted too. I suspect you'll find a couple of Nevow tag
implementations that don't need Twisted if you ask Google.

Anyway! This was just to demonstrate an alternate approach than to
evangelise about Nevow. I hope it was at least interesting. :)

Cheers, Matt

Nevow:
http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodNevow
Twisted:
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac

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Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Sullivan WxPyQtKinter
Hi, everyone.  Simply put, what I need most now is a python lib to
generate simple HTML.

I am now using XML to store my lab report records. I found python
really convinient to manipulate XML, so I want to make a small on-line
CGI program to help my colleagues to build their lab report records
into XML, for storage, HTML display (for others to browse) and search.

With python's standard lib, the DOM object could realize the XML
storage and search quite easily, but for HTML generation,  it is a
great headache.

I tried to turn to the in-line server-side python script PSP(something
like asp and php) instead of CGI. However, since the report data is
always of very complex data structures, it is really hard to write most
things in-line. For example, a PCR reaction is expected to be shown in
this format or alike on a web browser:

PCR
Sample: Sm1032
Operater: SullivanZ
TimeStamp: hh:mm mm-dd-
Reaction:
   Reagent1:
 Name:
 Concentration: mM
 Volumn:XXX uL
   Reagent2:



Since there are hundreds of PCR reaction and other operations in the
lab report, in-line PSP is not a suitable solution. But writing HTML
directly with print statement is a great pain.

Will XSTL be useful? Is my problem somewho related with XML-SIG?
Looking forward to your precious suggestion.

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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Michael

 Will XSTL be useful? Is my problem somewho related with XML-SIG?
 Looking forward to your precious suggestion.
   
XSLT is powerful but a royal pain in the arse. Just writing some Python 
to generate your HTML would probably be a lot easier for you.

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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter napisał(a):

 Hi, everyone.  Simply put, what I need most now is a python lib to
 generate simple HTML.
 
 I am now using XML to store my lab report records. I found python
 really convinient to manipulate XML, so I want to make a small on-line
 CGI program to help my colleagues to build their lab report records
 into XML, for storage, HTML display (for others to browse) and search.
 
 With python's standard lib, the DOM object could realize the XML
 storage and search quite easily, but for HTML generation,  it is a
 great headache.

I use HTMLTemplate + ElementTree combo to generate static HTML documents
from data in XML files. Other way might be using object oriented XSL,
as ll-xist is often advertized.

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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Steve Holden
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter wrote:
 Hi, everyone.  Simply put, what I need most now is a python lib to
 generate simple HTML.
 
 I am now using XML to store my lab report records. I found python
 really convinient to manipulate XML, so I want to make a small on-line
 CGI program to help my colleagues to build their lab report records
 into XML, for storage, HTML display (for others to browse) and search.
 
 With python's standard lib, the DOM object could realize the XML
 storage and search quite easily, but for HTML generation,  it is a
 great headache.
 
 I tried to turn to the in-line server-side python script PSP(something
 like asp and php) instead of CGI. However, since the report data is
 always of very complex data structures, it is really hard to write most
 things in-line. For example, a PCR reaction is expected to be shown in
 this format or alike on a web browser:
 
 PCR
 Sample: Sm1032
 Operater: SullivanZ
 TimeStamp: hh:mm mm-dd-
 Reaction:
Reagent1:
  Name:
  Concentration: mM
  Volumn:XXX uL
Reagent2:
 
 
 
 Since there are hundreds of PCR reaction and other operations in the
 lab report, in-line PSP is not a suitable solution. But writing HTML
 directly with print statement is a great pain.
 
 Will XSTL be useful? Is my problem somewho related with XML-SIG?
 Looking forward to your precious suggestion.
 
The triple-quoted string with string substitution is your friend. Try 
writing something(s) like:

results = {'secnum': 1, 'type': 'string', 'color': 'blue'}

print \
h1Section %(secnum)s/h1
pElements of type %(type)s should be coloured %(color)s/p
 % results

Alternatively you might want to take a look at the HTMLgen module. It's 
old, but still usable.

regards
  Steve
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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Sullivan WxPyQtKinter
Sorry I am completely a green-hand in HTML. What is HTMLTemplate and
ElementTree? Would you please post some source code as an example?

Of course I would Google them to find out more.

Thank you so much.

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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Sullivan WxPyQtKinter
That lib can help.
But still, I have to code a lot using that lib. Maybe my program is
quite strange, far from common.

Thank you, after all~!

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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Gerard Flanagan

Sullivan WxPyQtKinter wrote:

 Hi, everyone.  Simply put, what I need most now is a python lib to
 generate simple HTML.

 I am now using XML to store my lab report records. I found python
 really convinient to manipulate XML, so I want to make a small on-line
 CGI program to help my colleagues to build their lab report records
 into XML, for storage, HTML display (for others to browse) and search.

 With python's standard lib, the DOM object could realize the XML
 storage and search quite easily, but for HTML generation,  it is a
 great headache.

 I tried to turn to the in-line server-side python script PSP(something
 like asp and php) instead of CGI. However, since the report data is
 always of very complex data structures, it is really hard to write most
 things in-line. For example, a PCR reaction is expected to be shown in
 this format or alike on a web browser:

 PCR
 Sample: Sm1032
 Operater: SullivanZ
 TimeStamp: hh:mm mm-dd-
 Reaction:
Reagent1:
  Name:
  Concentration: mM
  Volumn:XXX uL
Reagent2:
 
 

 Since there are hundreds of PCR reaction and other operations in the
 lab report, in-line PSP is not a suitable solution. But writing HTML
 directly with print statement is a great pain.

 Will XSTL be useful? Is my problem somewho related with XML-SIG?
 Looking forward to your precious suggestion.

If you don't mind a learning curve, you could use a CherryPy/Picket
combination - Picket is an XSLT 'filter' that uses 4Suite to transform
XML on the server:

http://www.cherrypy.org/wiki/Picket

XSLT is powerful but a bit...wearying, at first.

Gerard

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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Sullivan WxPyQtKinter a écrit :
 Hi, everyone.  Simply put, what I need most now is a python lib to
 generate simple HTML.
 
 I am now using XML to store my lab report records. I found python
 really convinient to manipulate XML, so I want to make a small on-line
 CGI program to help my colleagues to build their lab report records
 into XML, for storage, HTML display (for others to browse) and search.
 
 With python's standard lib, the DOM object could realize the XML
 storage and search quite easily, but for HTML generation,  it is a
 great headache.

You may want to have a look at Kid:
http://kid.lesscode.org/trac/wiki/SimpleXmlDocumentProcessingRecipe
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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Stephen D Evans

Jarek Zgoda wrote:
 I use HTMLTemplate + ElementTree combo to generate static HTML documents
 from data in XML files. Other way might be using object oriented XSL,
 as ll-xist is often advertized.

HTMLTemplate + ElementTree works for me too. Additionally I use CSS
(Cascading Style Sheets) to add style (e.g. fonts, colors and spacing). The
CSS also allows for different styles for display/print (e.g. not printing
menus). If you want to see artistic CSS google for css Zen Garden .

Nearly two years after initially using HTMLTemplate, the python code,
templates and css are easy to maintain. Whereas some code/markup written
with a python HTML generator is difficult to maintain.

Stephen D Evans


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Re: Any python HTML generator libs?

2006-03-09 Thread Michael

 HTMLTemplate + ElementTree works for me too. Additionally I use CSS
 (Cascading Style Sheets) to add style (e.g. fonts, colors and spacing). The
 CSS also allows for different styles for display/print (e.g. not printing
 menus). If you want to see artistic CSS google for css Zen Garden .

 Nearly two years after initially using HTMLTemplate, the python code,
 templates and css are easy to maintain. Whereas some code/markup written
 with a python HTML generator is difficult to maintain.
   
CSS is awesome. It can lead to some real headaches when it comes to IE 
though if you're doing anything very complex. Firefox, Safari, and Opera 
are almost identical when it comes to CSS support now which makes life a 
lot easier. I suggest using Javascript behaviors too whenever you need 
to use Javascript. Pretty handy because it keeps your HTML clean and 
lets you apply code in almost identical way to CSS.

I know of a UI tool (for Java on mobile devices) that lets you style the 
UI of normal apps with CSS. That'd rock if it was available for Python 
programs.

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