Re: Feedback desired on reworked ch 1 progr. intro (now Python 3.x, Windows)

2009-11-01 Thread Rhodri James

Before we start, can I just say that I find Google Docs loathsome?

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:40:36 -, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no  
wrote:


I hope this new version of ch 1 is, well, better, addresses some of the  
concerns raised? g


Section 1.1 needs serious work.  You have a very assertive writing style
and a lot of things that you definitively state are at best debatable.
If I'd picked that up in a shop and browsed that opening, I'd put the
book down and walk away; essentially you're calling your accuracy into
question before you've even said anything about programming.

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Re: Feedback desired on reworked ch 1 progr. intro (now Python 3.x, Windows)

2009-11-01 Thread Alf P. Steinbach

* Rhodri James:

Before we start, can I just say that I find Google Docs loathsome?

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:40:36 -, Alf P. Steinbach al...@start.no 
wrote:


I hope this new version of ch 1 is, well, better, addresses some of 
the concerns raised? g


Section 1.1 needs serious work.


Could you please expand on that?

It is a hint.

Byt it doesn't leave me with much to go on regarding what you mean.



 You have a very assertive writing style
and a lot of things that you definitively state are at best debatable.
If I'd picked that up in a shop and browsed that opening, I'd put the
book down and walk away; essentially you're calling your accuracy into
question before you've even said anything about programming.


Could you please expand on this also? Sort of, more concrete?


Cheers  thanks,

- Alf
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Feedback desired on reworked ch 1 progr. intro (now Python 3.x, Windows)

2009-10-31 Thread Alf P. Steinbach

Hi all!

After my earlier feedback request a lot of you responded with constructive 
criticism and suggestions.


As a result of that I've changed the text to be based on *Python 3.x* instead of 
2.6+, and chapter 1 Getting started has grown from 9 pages to a whopping 11 pages!


I would particularly like to thank the following persons (although of course I 
don't know whether any of them would recommend the old text, or the new text! 
:-) ), because they directly caused changes of the text:


Chris Rebert, in [comp.lang.python]
Ch 1
all batteries included - batteries included
OS/X - Mac OS X (with a space, not a slash)
implementation - distribution

Eric Brunel, in [comp.lang.python]
Ch 1
static type checking discussion yielding wrong impression

ba...@freeuk.com, in [comp.lang.python]
Ch 1
Unclear that Windows subsystems are not something to do with Python.

Ethan Furman, in private communication
Ch 1
Pointed out the renaming 2.6 Tkinter - 3.x tkinter

Jon Clements, in [comp.lang.python]
General
Info about Python 3.x that let me switch to 3.x

Plus, the person who suggested that I should mention the PSPad editor, but I 
forgot to note who that was (sorry).


I hope this new version of ch 1 is, well, better, addresses some of the concerns 
raised? g


url: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ProgrammingBookP3
Formats: PDF, text

Now starting on ch 2, which with Python 3.x should become a lot cleaner...


Cheers,

- Alf
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