Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Holden
Chris wrote:
Okay, here's the results.  The good news is that the code sent the 
mail without any popup's.  The bad news is that the sent e-mail stays 
in the outbox instead of the sent folder.  Any suggestions?
Well, only the same one I've already made, which is to look on the 
win32all mailing list archives. Since this appears to be beyond you, 
here's a note by Chad Stryker commenting on an original work by David 
Fraser.

It may give you the clues you need, otherwise Google for the whole 
thread(s).

"""Thank you for figuring this extended MAPI interface all out.  I 
discovered a couple of problems with the code (on my system at least). 
First, the message in my outbox was marked as read.  Second, the 
message would remain in the outbox after it was sent.  After several 
hours of work, I added three lines to the function that mark the 
message as unread and cause the message to be deleted from the outbox 
after it is sent.

First, I added a constant that I found in the MAPI header file 
MAPIDefS.h.

CLEAR_READ_FLAG = 4
Next I added two lines just before “outboxfolder.SaveChanges(0)”.
message.SetReadFlag(CLEAR_READ_FLAG)
message.SetProps([(mapitags.PR_DELETE_AFTER_SUBMIT,1)])
With these changes, the behavior in the outbox is consistent with 
sending messages directly from Outlook.
"""

regards
 Steve

Actually, I had already found that message.  It still doesn't do what 
I'm looking for(namely moving sent messages to the Sent folder).

Chris

Well, in that case please excuse my crotchetiness. It's probably the 
time of year.

bah-humbug-ly y'rs  - steve
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-13 Thread Chris
Okay, here's the results.  The good news is that the code sent the 
mail without any popup's.  The bad news is that the sent e-mail stays 
in the outbox instead of the sent folder.  Any suggestions?
Well, only the same one I've already made, which is to look on the 
win32all mailing list archives. Since this appears to be beyond you, 
here's a note by Chad Stryker commenting on an original work by David 
Fraser.

It may give you the clues you need, otherwise Google for the whole 
thread(s).

"""Thank you for figuring this extended MAPI interface all out.  I 
discovered a couple of problems with the code (on my system at least). 
First, the message in my outbox was marked as read.  Second, the message 
would remain in the outbox after it was sent.  After several hours of 
work, I added three lines to the function that mark the message as 
unread and cause the message to be deleted from the outbox after it is 
sent.

First, I added a constant that I found in the MAPI header file MAPIDefS.h.
CLEAR_READ_FLAG = 4
Next I added two lines just before “outboxfolder.SaveChanges(0)”.
message.SetReadFlag(CLEAR_READ_FLAG)
message.SetProps([(mapitags.PR_DELETE_AFTER_SUBMIT,1)])
With these changes, the behavior in the outbox is consistent with 
sending messages directly from Outlook.
"""

regards
 Steve
Actually, I had already found that message.  It still doesn't do what 
I'm looking for(namely moving sent messages to the Sent folder).

Chris
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Holden
Chris wrote:
There is actually a workaround. You're using Simple MAPI which has a 
nice easy interface. The confirmation dialogs are only for Simple 
MAPI. Using Extended MAPI can work around the problem but its a lot 
more tricky.
See the initial discussion here: 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Python-win32/2160646

This code has now been included in pywin32 somehow but I can't 
remember where and its late. Should also be a cookbook entry. Maybe 
Google can help :-)

Okay, here's the results.  The good news is that the code sent the mail 
without any popup's.  The bad news is that the sent e-mail stays in the 
outbox instead of the sent folder.  Any suggestions?

Chris
Well, only the same one I've already made, which is to look on the 
win32all mailing list archives. Since this appears to be beyond you, 
here's a note by Chad Stryker commenting on an original work by David 
Fraser.

It may give you the clues you need, otherwise Google for the whole 
thread(s).

"""Thank you for figuring this extended MAPI interface all out.  I 
discovered a couple of problems with the code (on my system at least). 
First, the message in my outbox was marked as read.  Second, the message 
would remain in the outbox after it was sent.  After several hours of 
work, I added three lines to the function that mark the message as 
unread and cause the message to be deleted from the outbox after it is sent.

First, I added a constant that I found in the MAPI header file MAPIDefS.h.
CLEAR_READ_FLAG = 4
Next I added two lines just before “outboxfolder.SaveChanges(0)”.
message.SetReadFlag(CLEAR_READ_FLAG)
message.SetProps([(mapitags.PR_DELETE_AFTER_SUBMIT,1)])
With these changes, the behavior in the outbox is consistent with 
sending messages directly from Outlook.
"""

regards
 Steve
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-13 Thread Chris
There is actually a workaround. You're using Simple MAPI which has a 
nice easy interface. The confirmation dialogs are only for Simple MAPI. 
Using Extended MAPI can work around the problem but its a lot more tricky.
See the initial discussion here: 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Python-win32/2160646

This code has now been included in pywin32 somehow but I can't remember 
where and its late. Should also be a cookbook entry. Maybe Google can 
help :-)
Okay, here's the results.  The good news is that the code sent the mail 
without any popup's.  The bad news is that the sent e-mail stays in the 
outbox instead of the sent folder.  Any suggestions?

Chris
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-13 Thread Chris
At the risk of beating a dead horse, but you really should consider
using SMTP instead if you are really going to be sending a lot
of messages.
The problem is that doesn't work in more complicated configurations
such as when authentication and/or SSL have to happen, not to mention
the issue of configuring servers and ports, that users have already
configured in their mail clients.  Additionally when you use MAPI,
messages that you send also end up in your sent items folder. (I
also have not had any issue sending lots of messages using MAPI).
Ultimately the utility of vanilla of pure SMTP will depend on
customer requirements and how simple the configuration is.
That pretty much sums it up.  Also, since everything is done over IMAP 
with Outlook, I don't really have access to an SMTP server.

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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-12 Thread Steve Holden
Chris wrote:
Alas, I dont think that there is much you can do to prevent the 
confirmation dialogs with Outlook's MAPI dll. MS added them in a 
service pack as an anti-virus measure, so no work-around. Not all 
clients show these anoying dialogs though. Thunderbird definately 
doesn't.
There is actually a workaround. You're using Simple MAPI which has a 
nice easy interface. The confirmation dialogs are only for Simple 
MAPI. Using Extended MAPI can work around the problem but its a lot 
more tricky.
See the initial discussion here: 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Python-win32/2160646

This code has now been included in pywin32 somehow but I can't 
remember where and its late. Should also be a cookbook entry. Maybe 
Google can help :-)

Cool.  I'll take a look an' see if I can get it to work.  MAPI has 
turned out to be a major PITA.  Especially when trying to learn it and 
Python at the same time. :)

Chris
There's recently been some discussion of this topic on the python-win32 
list, most lately to accommodate moving sent messages to the Sent 
folder. I've personally sent several hundred messages using the 
techniques outlined there.

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-win32/2004-August/002239.html is 
a good starting point.

regards
 Steve
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-11 Thread Roger Binns

"Larry Bates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> At the risk of beating a dead horse, but you really should consider
> using SMTP instead if you are really going to be sending a lot
> of messages.

The problem is that doesn't work in more complicated configurations
such as when authentication and/or SSL have to happen, not to mention
the issue of configuring servers and ports, that users have already
configured in their mail clients.  Additionally when you use MAPI,
messages that you send also end up in your sent items folder. (I
also have not had any issue sending lots of messages using MAPI).

Ultimately the utility of vanilla of pure SMTP will depend on
customer requirements and how simple the configuration is.

Roger 


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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-11 Thread Roger Binns

"Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My only  problem is that when I call Resolve() and Send(), I get confirmation 
> dialogs.  I will be sending out quite a few e-mails 
> at a time, and would rather not have the user have to click yes for every 
> single one.

Here is an simple workaround:

  http://www.contextmagic.com/express-clickyes/

If you have win32all installed, you can even use the programming API
they present to turn on and off the clickyes functionality.

Roger 


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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-11 Thread Larry Bates
At the risk of beating a dead horse, but you really should consider
using SMTP instead if you are really going to be sending a lot
of messages.  I think you will find it more reliable and much faster.
It also eliminates the need for ANY email client to be on the machine
that is sending the messages.
http://motion.technolust.cx/related/send_jpg.py
Here is a link to a class that wraps everything up very nicely.  You
should be able to be sending SMTP emails with it in 10-15 minutes.
It supports binary attachments as well.
FYI,
Larry Bates
Chris wrote:
I'm trying to send an e-mail through outlook.  So far I've gotten it to 
work with the mail script at 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/149461  My only 
problem is that when I call Resolve() and Send(), I get confirmation 
dialogs.  I will be sending out quite a few e-mails at a time, and would 
rather not have the user have to click yes for every single one.  Does 
anyone know a workaround?  I know about smtplib, but I would prefer to 
simply make what I have work.  Thanks.

Chris
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-10 Thread Chris
Alas, I dont think that there is much you can do to prevent the 
confirmation dialogs with Outlook's MAPI dll. MS added them in a 
service pack as an anti-virus measure, so no work-around. Not all 
clients show these anoying dialogs though. Thunderbird definately 
doesn't.
There is actually a workaround. You're using Simple MAPI which has a 
nice easy interface. The confirmation dialogs are only for Simple MAPI. 
Using Extended MAPI can work around the problem but its a lot more tricky.
See the initial discussion here: 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Python-win32/2160646

This code has now been included in pywin32 somehow but I can't remember 
where and its late. Should also be a cookbook entry. Maybe Google can 
help :-)
Cool.  I'll take a look an' see if I can get it to work.  MAPI has 
turned out to be a major PITA.  Especially when trying to learn it and 
Python at the same time. :)

Chris
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-10 Thread Chris
Will McGugan wrote:
I'm trying to send an e-mail through outlook.  So far I've gotten it 
to work with the mail script at 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/149461  My 
only problem is that when I call Resolve() and Send(), I get 
confirmation dialogs.  I will be sending out quite a few e-mails at a 
time, and would rather not have the user have to click yes for every 
single one.  Does anyone know a workaround?  I know about smtplib, but 
I would prefer to simply make what I have work.  Thanks.
Alas, I dont think that there is much you can do to prevent the 
confirmation dialogs with Outlook's MAPI dll. MS added them in a service 
pack as an anti-virus measure, so no work-around. Not all clients show 
these anoying dialogs though. Thunderbird definately doesn't.
Unfortunately, I don't have the option of installing Thunderbird.
Chris
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-10 Thread Will McGugan
David Fraser wrote:
Alas, I dont think that there is much you can do to prevent the 
confirmation dialogs with Outlook's MAPI dll. MS added them in a 
service pack as an anti-virus measure, so no work-around. Not all 
clients show these anoying dialogs though. Thunderbird definately 
doesn't.


There is actually a workaround. You're using Simple MAPI which has a 
I stand corrected.
Will McGugan
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-10 Thread David Fraser
Will McGugan wrote:
Chris wrote:
I'm trying to send an e-mail through outlook.  So far I've gotten it 
to work with the mail script at 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/149461  My 
only problem is that when I call Resolve() and Send(), I get 
confirmation dialogs.  I will be sending out quite a few e-mails at a 
time, and would rather not have the user have to click yes for every 
single one.  Does anyone know a workaround?  I know about smtplib, but 
I would prefer to simply make what I have work.  Thanks.

Alas, I dont think that there is much you can do to prevent the 
confirmation dialogs with Outlook's MAPI dll. MS added them in a service 
pack as an anti-virus measure, so no work-around. Not all clients show 
these anoying dialogs though. Thunderbird definately doesn't.


There is actually a workaround. You're using Simple MAPI which has a 
nice easy interface. The confirmation dialogs are only for Simple MAPI. 
Using Extended MAPI can work around the problem but its a lot more tricky.
See the initial discussion here: 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Python-win32/2160646

This code has now been included in pywin32 somehow but I can't remember 
where and its late. Should also be a cookbook entry. Maybe Google can 
help :-)

David
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Re: Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-10 Thread Will McGugan
Chris wrote:
I'm trying to send an e-mail through outlook.  So far I've gotten it to 
work with the mail script at 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/149461  My only 
problem is that when I call Resolve() and Send(), I get confirmation 
dialogs.  I will be sending out quite a few e-mails at a time, and would 
rather not have the user have to click yes for every single one.  Does 
anyone know a workaround?  I know about smtplib, but I would prefer to 
simply make what I have work.  Thanks.
Alas, I dont think that there is much you can do to prevent the 
confirmation dialogs with Outlook's MAPI dll. MS added them in a service 
pack as an anti-virus measure, so no work-around. Not all clients show 
these anoying dialogs though. Thunderbird definately doesn't.

Regards,
Will McGugan
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Fun with Outlook and MAPI

2004-12-10 Thread Chris
I'm trying to send an e-mail through outlook.  So far I've gotten it to 
work with the mail script at 
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/149461  My only 
problem is that when I call Resolve() and Send(), I get confirmation 
dialogs.  I will be sending out quite a few e-mails at a time, and would 
rather not have the user have to click yes for every single one.  Does 
anyone know a workaround?  I know about smtplib, but I would prefer to 
simply make what I have work.  Thanks.

Chris
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