Re: How is Unladen Swallow coming along?
2010/7/8 Luis M. González luis...@gmail.com On Jul 8, 1:42 pm, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: How is Unladen Swallow coming along? Looking at the site, code is being checked in and issues are being reported, but the last quarterly release was 2009 Q3. They missed their January 2010 release date for 2009 Q4, so they're now about 6 months behind their project plan. (http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/ProjectPlan;) John Nagle Don't be shy. Ask this question in Unladen Swallow's google group. They don't bite! I'm not the O.P., but I was curious too, so I asked on an Unladen Swallow mailing list. The response was that progress on Unladen Swallow is still occurring, and is focused on merging things into the py3k-jit branch of the official python repo. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
How is Unladen Swallow coming along?
How is Unladen Swallow coming along? Looking at the site, code is being checked in and issues are being reported, but the last quarterly release was 2009 Q3. They missed their January 2010 release date for 2009 Q4, so they're now about 6 months behind their project plan. (http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/ProjectPlan;) John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How is Unladen Swallow coming along?
On Jul 8, 1:42 pm, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: How is Unladen Swallow coming along? Looking at the site, code is being checked in and issues are being reported, but the last quarterly release was 2009 Q3. They missed their January 2010 release date for 2009 Q4, so they're now about 6 months behind their project plan. (http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/ProjectPlan;) John Nagle Don't be shy. Ask this question in Unladen Swallow's google group. They don't bite! Luis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How is Unladen Swallow coming along?
On 7/8/2010 12:19 PM, Luis M. González wrote: On Jul 8, 1:42 pm, John Naglena...@animats.com wrote: How is Unladen Swallow coming along? Looking at the site, code is being checked in and issues are being reported, but the last quarterly release was 2009 Q3. They missed their January 2010 release date for 2009 Q4, so they're now about 6 months behind their project plan. (http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/ProjectPlan;) John Nagle Don't be shy. Ask this question in Unladen Swallow's google group. They don't bite! Found this: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3146/#performance-retrospective; It's starting to work, but the performance improvement is tiny, well under 2x faster than CPython. Only 1.08x on html5lib. That's far less than they expected. They were going for 5x, which is far less than Shed Skin (which restricts Python) already achieves. John Nagle -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How is Unladen Swallow coming along?
On Jul 8, 5:44 pm, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: On 7/8/2010 12:19 PM, Luis M. González wrote: On Jul 8, 1:42 pm, John Naglena...@animats.com wrote: How is Unladen Swallow coming along? Looking at the site, code is being checked in and issues are being reported, but the last quarterly release was 2009 Q3. They missed their January 2010 release date for 2009 Q4, so they're now about 6 months behind their project plan. (http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/ProjectPlan;) John Nagle Don't be shy. Ask this question in Unladen Swallow's google group. They don't bite! Found this: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3146/#performance-retrospective; It's starting to work, but the performance improvement is tiny, well under 2x faster than CPython. Only 1.08x on html5lib. That's far less than they expected. They were going for 5x, which is far less than Shed Skin (which restricts Python) already achieves. John Nagle Shedskin is an heroic effort by Mark Dufour, but comparing it to Cpython is like comparing oranges to apples. Shedskin is not an interpreter, it's just a way to compile implicitly statically typed python code to c++. So the project is more along the lines of Pyrex/Cython in its goals. I believe it's a great way to compile extension modules written in restricted python, although it could compile entire programs provided they don't rely on non supported libraries or modules. Only a few are supported to different degrees of completeness. At this moment, it seems that Pypy is the project holding more promises. Although I guess Guido has strong reasons to support Unladen Swallow. Lets see what happens... Luis -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
