Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-19 Thread Gregory Ewing

Ferrous Cranus wrote:

Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with python3 
python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new VPS have costed 4-5
of my life and of my mental health, while if you just helped a bit these would
have been done in a couple of hours.


That's by no means certain. Often, problems like that can
only be solved by someone sitting in front of the system
in question and poking around in it.

Debugging obscure problems remotely via usenet is extremely
difficult, and it's even more difficult if the question
essentially just consists of This doesn't work, please
help me!.

If you don't get a response to a question like that, it's
not because people are refusing to help. It's because
nobody happens to have seen that exact set of symptoms
before, so without further information, they *can't*
help.

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Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-19 Thread alex23

On 19/11/2013 2:15 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
[...]

Any chance you could stop acting like a troll and generating new email 
addresses in an apparent attempt to get around people's filters?


You claim you're acting in good faith, so stop appearing to do otherwise.
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Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-19 Thread rurpy
On Monday, November 18, 2013 7:24:53 AM UTC-7, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
 Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com writes:
  No i haven't broke it at all.
  Everything work as they should.
  The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in 
  my new VPS.
  So i have changes it to:
  export LANG = en_US.UTF-8
  and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 
  Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with 
  python3  python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new
  VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you
  just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.
 
 How could anyone have known that this was the problem? AFIAK you
 didn't even tell about the VPS. And moreover this wasn't a Python
 problem, so off topic here.

It was an obscure error message produced by a python installer
when trying to install a python package.  It certainly is on topic. 

Please don't set up different standards for posters you don't
like -- others who don't know better might understandably think
they apply to everyone.
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Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-18 Thread YBM

You are the one being rude, Nikos.

Moreover you are a nut, installing pygeoip works fine
for me:

# pip install pygeoip
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
  Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97Kb): 97Kb downloaded
  Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip

Installing collected packages: pygeoip
  Running setup.py install for pygeoip

Successfully installed pygeoip
Cleaning up...

you've probably completely messed up your system, as you
are completely incompetent as a UNIX/Linux admin and broke
your system.



Le 17/11/2013 23:31, Ferrous Cranus a écrit :

==
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
Traceback (most recent call last):
File string, line 16, in module
File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
1098: ordinal not in range(128)
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
Traceback (most recent call last):

File string, line 16, in module

File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
1098: ordinal not in range(128)
==



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Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-18 Thread Antoon Pardon
Please try to restrain yourself.

I understand the urge to vent your frustration but it will
accomplish nothing. We are all frustrated by Nikos's behaviour
but we all rely on each other not to increase that frustration
through responding to his threads and thus prolonging their
duration.

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Op 18-11-13 10:31, YBM schreef:
 You are the one being rude, Nikos.
 
 Moreover you are a nut, installing pygeoip works fine
 for me:
 
 # pip install pygeoip
 Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
   Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97Kb): 97Kb downloaded
   Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
 
 Installing collected packages: pygeoip
   Running setup.py install for pygeoip
 
 Successfully installed pygeoip
 Cleaning up...
 
 you've probably completely messed up your system, as you
 are completely incompetent as a UNIX/Linux admin and broke
 your system.
 
 
 
 Le 17/11/2013 23:31, Ferrous Cranus a écrit :
 ==
 root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip
 Downloading/unpacking pygeoip
 Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded
 Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip
 Traceback (most recent call last):
 File string, line 16, in module
 File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode
 return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]
 UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
 1098: ordinal not in range(128)
 Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
 Traceback (most recent call last):

 File string, line 16, in module

 File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode

 return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0]

 UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position
 1098: ordinal not in range(128)
 ==

 

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Re: If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-18 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Ferrous Cranus nikos.gr...@gmail.com writes:

 No i haven't broke it at all.
 Everything work as they should.

 The refusal of 'pygeoip' to install turned out to be the local setting in my 
 new VPS.

 So i have changes it to:

 export LANG = en_US.UTF-8

 and then 'pip install pygeoip' was successful. 

 Trying to figure out how to install-setup EPEL repository along with
 python3  python3-pip and 2 extra modules my script needed in my new
 VPS have costed 4-5 of my life and of my mental health, while if you
 just helped a bit these would have been done in a couple of hours.

How could anyone have known that this was the problem? AFIAK you didn't even 
tell about the VPS. And moreover this wasn't a Python problem, so off topic 
here.
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If you continue being rude i will continue doing this

2013-11-17 Thread Ferrous Cranus
== 
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip 
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip 
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded 
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File string, line 16, in module 
File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode 
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 

File string, line 16, in module 

File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode 

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
== 
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== 
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip 
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip 
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded 
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File string, line 16, in module 
File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode 
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 

File string, line 16, in module 

File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode 

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
== 
-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined! 


== 
root@secure [~/distribute-0.6.49]# pip install pygeoip 
Downloading/unpacking pygeoip 
Downloading pygeoip-0.3.0.tar.gz (97kB): 97kB downloaded 
Running setup.py egg_info for package pygeoip 
Traceback (most recent call last): 
File string, line 16, in module 
File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode 
return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info: 
Traceback (most recent call last): 

File string, line 16, in module 

File /usr/lib/python3.3/encodings/ascii.py, line 26, in decode 

return codecs.ascii_decode(input, self.errors)[0] 

UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 
1098: ordinal not in range(128) 
== 
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