Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-08 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez

could ildg wrote:
> Why is iron python runs so fast but jython runs so slow while C# and
> java seem very much the same?

I've been playing with Ironpython since its first release and, in my
experience, it is not faster than Cpython, although this is what they
claim.
Anyway, it is in alpha stage so lets wait until it's mature...

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Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-08 Thread Reinhold Birkenfeld
Al Christians wrote:
> EP wrote:
>> 
>> yes, my apologies to all things Iron and or Python.
>> 
>> "language" and "version" can be confusing if one stays up late without 
>> coffee, or perhaps if one has not been debugging their English code properly.
>> 
> 
> Still, it's a bit of a PITB to me that it says XP and not Win2000.

Forcing you to upgrade, isn't it?

Usual MS strategy.

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Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-07 Thread Al Christians
EP wrote:
> 
> yes, my apologies to all things Iron and or Python.
> 
> "language" and "version" can be confusing if one stays up late without 
> coffee, or perhaps if one has not been debugging their English code properly.
> 

Still, it's a bit of a PITB to me that it says XP and not Win2000.


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Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-05 Thread EP
> I've got both 1.1 and 2.0 on this machine... Note that the
> warning applies to /language/: as in English or French... You can not
> install French if you have an English version installed.
> 


yes, my apologies to all things Iron and or Python.

"language" and "version" can be confusing if one stays up late without coffee, 
or perhaps if one has not been debugging their English code properly.


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Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-05 Thread could ildg
Why is iron python runs so fast but jython runs so slow while C# and
java seem very much the same?

On 8/5/05, EP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops.  Nevermind.
> 
> [like the old Saturday Night Live]
> 
> 
> 
> > Original Message
> > From: "EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: python-list@python.org
> > Date: Thu, Aug-4-2005 10:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: IronPython 0.9 Released
> >
> > "Luis M. Gonzalez" Announced:
> >
> > > IronPython 0.9 Released(8/2/2005 10:28:41 AM)
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cf5ae627-5df1-4f8a-ba8b-d64f0676f43f&displaylang=en
> > >
> >
> > MS website says:
> >
> > """System Requirements
> >
> > *  Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003; Windows XP
> >
> > You must install the .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package
> > Beta 2 prior to installing IronPython."""
> >
> >
> > And
> >
> >
> > """Important: You cannot install two different language versions of the
> > .NET Framework on the same machine. Attempting to install a second
> > language version of the .NET Framework will cause the following error to
> > appear: "Setup cannot install Microsoft .NET Framework because another
> > version of the product is already installed." If you are targeting a
> > non-English platform or if you wish to view .NET Framework resources in a
> > different language, you must download the appropriate language version
> > of the .NET Framework language pack."""
> >
> >
> > So, one has to uninstall their stable .NET Framework to install a beta
> > .NET Framework to try out a beta release of a new Python?  Would this
> > not be of concern to folks who actually build ontop of .NET (and want to
> > be sure their current code / applications / tools work)?
> >
> > It is really all or none with MS, isn't it?  If the
> > language/application is not ready for prime time, why would someone commit 
> > to beta code
> > and a beta framework upon which other applications depend?
> >
> >
> > I may have the wrong perspective on all this, but it really befuddles
> > me.
> >
> >
> > [Bring on PyPy]
> >
> >
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Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-04 Thread EP
Oops.  Nevermind.

[like the old Saturday Night Live]



> Original Message
> From: "EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: python-list@python.org
> Date: Thu, Aug-4-2005 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: IronPython 0.9 Released
>
> "Luis M. Gonzalez" Announced:
> 
> > IronPython 0.9 Released(8/2/2005 10:28:41 AM)
> > 
> > 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cf5ae627-5df1-4f8a-ba8b-d64f0676f43f&displaylang=en
> > 
> 
> MS website says:
> 
> """System Requirements
> 
> *  Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003; Windows XP
> 
> You must install the .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package 
> Beta 2 prior to installing IronPython."""
> 
> 
> And
> 
> 
> """Important: You cannot install two different language versions of the 
> .NET Framework on the same machine. Attempting to install a second 
> language version of the .NET Framework will cause the following error to 
> appear: "Setup cannot install Microsoft .NET Framework because another 
> version of the product is already installed." If you are targeting a 
> non-English platform or if you wish to view .NET Framework resources in a 
> different language, you must download the appropriate language version 
> of the .NET Framework language pack."""
> 
> 
> So, one has to uninstall their stable .NET Framework to install a beta 
> .NET Framework to try out a beta release of a new Python?  Would this 
> not be of concern to folks who actually build ontop of .NET (and want to 
> be sure their current code / applications / tools work)?
> 
> It is really all or none with MS, isn't it?  If the 
> language/application is not ready for prime time, why would someone commit to 
> beta code 
> and a beta framework upon which other applications depend?
> 
> 
> I may have the wrong perspective on all this, but it really befuddles 
> me.
> 
> 
> [Bring on PyPy]
> 
> 
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> 
> 

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Re: IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-04 Thread EP
"Luis M. Gonzalez" Announced:

> IronPython 0.9 Released(8/2/2005 10:28:41 AM)
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cf5ae627-5df1-4f8a-ba8b-d64f0676f43f&displaylang=en
> 

MS website says:

"""System Requirements

*  Supported Operating Systems: Windows Server 2003; Windows XP

You must install the .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package Beta 2 
prior to installing IronPython."""


And


"""Important: You cannot install two different language versions of the .NET 
Framework on the same machine. Attempting to install a second language version 
of the .NET Framework will cause the following error to appear: "Setup cannot 
install Microsoft .NET Framework because another version of the product is 
already installed." If you are targeting a non-English platform or if you wish 
to view .NET Framework resources in a different language, you must download the 
appropriate language version of the .NET Framework language pack."""


So, one has to uninstall their stable .NET Framework to install a beta .NET 
Framework to try out a beta release of a new Python?  Would this not be of 
concern to folks who actually build ontop of .NET (and want to be sure their 
current code / applications / tools work)?

It is really all or none with MS, isn't it?  If the language/application is not 
ready for prime time, why would someone commit to beta code and a beta 
framework upon which other applications depend?


I may have the wrong perspective on all this, but it really befuddles me.


[Bring on PyPy]


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IronPython 0.9 Released

2005-08-02 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
IronPython 0.9 Released(8/2/2005 10:28:41 AM)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cf5ae627-5df1-4f8a-ba8b-d64f0676f43f&displaylang=en

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