Re: Komodo, Python
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Dieter Maurer wrote: > In addition it shows that the "kdb.py" code is very old. "whrandom" > is been replaced by "random" a long time ago. Komodo 2.5 was released in 2003. At the time, Python was on release 2.3. Komodo is currently on version 7. The OP should consider updating their IDE. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo, Python
"Isaac@AU" writes: > I just started learning python. I have komodo2.5 in my computer. And I > installed python2.7. I tried to write python scripts in komodo. But every > time I run the code, there's always the error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 2.5\callkomodo\kdb.py", line 920, > in > > requestor, connection_port, cookie = ConnectToListener(localhost_addr, > port) > > File "C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 2.5\callkomodo\kdb.py", line 872, > in > ConnectToListener > cookie = makeCookie() > File "C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 2.5\callkomodo\kdb.py", line 146, > in > makeCookie > generator=whrandom.whrandom() > NameError: global name 'whrandom' is not defined This is a bug in "kdb.py". I forgets to import "whrandom". In addition it shows that the "kdb.py" code is very old. "whrandom" is been replaced by "random" a long time ago. -- Dieter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo, Python
I just started learning python. I have komodo2.5 in my computer. And I installed python2.7. I tried to write python scripts in komodo. But every time I run the code, there's always the error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 2.5\callkomodo\kdb.py", line 920, in requestor, connection_port, cookie = ConnectToListener(localhost_addr, port) File "C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 2.5\callkomodo\kdb.py", line 872, in ConnectToListener cookie = makeCookie() File "C:\Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 2.5\callkomodo\kdb.py", line 146, in makeCookie generator=whrandom.whrandom() NameError: global name 'whrandom' is not defined Is it the compatibility problem? Can anybody tell how to fix this problem? Because komodo is not free, so I don't want to uninstall komodo. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 7 release (Python development tools)
On 12-02-08 01:52 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 2/8/2012 3:14 PM, Todd Whiteman wrote: My name is Todd. I'm the lead developer for Komodo IDE (Interactive Development Environment) and Komodo Edit (a free, open-source editor) at ActiveState. I wanted to announce that the newest version, Komodo 7, has been released: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/python-editor It would seem that the Professional Python Editor is the same as Komodo Edit, but it is unclear why only Python editing would be featured for Komodo IDE. http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit is the page with the link people need to download just the editor. The above page covers features from both Edit and IDE - some will only apply to the IDE version. For a full comparison of features you can check out: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit/compare-with-komodo-ide Does K.Edit let me run a program with one key, like F5 in IDLE? If so, does it leave me in interactive mode (python -i) as IDLE does? Komodo Edit does not offer a quick run (F5) command by default, you could create your own Python command [1] in the Komodo toolbox and assign it the F5 key binding to serve such a purpose. [1] The short command for running a Python script is: "%(python) %F", which uses Komodo's interpolation shortcuts: http://docs.activestate.com/komodo/7.0/shortcuts.html#shortcuts_top Cheers, Todd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 7 release (Python development tools)
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:52:50 -0500 Terry Reedy wrote: > On 2/8/2012 3:14 PM, Todd Whiteman wrote: > > > My name is Todd. I'm the lead developer for Komodo IDE (Interactive > > Development Environment) and Komodo Edit (a free, open-source > > editor) at ActiveState. I wanted to announce that the newest > > version, Komodo 7, has been released: > > This is a pretty good release announcement, but a few questions. > ... > >http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/python-editor > > It would seem that the Professional Python Editor is the same as > Komodo Edit, but it is unclear why only Python editing would be > featured for Komodo IDE. > > http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit > > is the page with the link people need to download just the editor. > > Does K.Edit let me run a program with one key, like F5 in IDLE? > If so, does it leave me in interactive mode (python -i) as IDLE does? > I'm not an ActiveState employee, but I have used Komodo IDE since version 4, on FreeBSD and Windows. The selling point of the IDE is definitely the interactive python debugger which isn't in the editor. It also supports more than python, just in case for some old reason you'd find the need to write Perl, Ruby or TCL code. -- Rod Person http://www.rodperson.com rodper...@rodperson.com 'Silence is a fence around wisdom' -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 7 release (Python development tools)
>> My name is Todd. I'm the lead developer for Komodo IDE (Interactive >> Development Environment) and Komodo Edit (a free, open-source editor) at >> ActiveState. I wanted to announce that the newest version, Komodo 7, has >> been released: > > This is a pretty good release announcement, but a few questions. > ... > >http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/python-editor > > It would seem that the Professional Python Editor is the same as Komodo > Edit, but it is unclear why only Python editing would be featured for > Komodo IDE. > > http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit > > is the page with the link people need to download just the editor. > > Does K.Edit let me run a program with one key, like F5 in IDLE? AFAIK it sure does! > If so, does it leave me in interactive mode (python -i) as IDLE does? Hmmm, I don't know about that. Best, anonhung -- http://spreadingviktororban.weebly.com";>Viktor Orban Prime minister of Hungary -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 7 release (Python development tools)
On 2/8/2012 3:14 PM, Todd Whiteman wrote: My name is Todd. I'm the lead developer for Komodo IDE (Interactive Development Environment) and Komodo Edit (a free, open-source editor) at ActiveState. I wanted to announce that the newest version, Komodo 7, has been released: This is a pretty good release announcement, but a few questions. ... >http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/python-editor It would seem that the Professional Python Editor is the same as Komodo Edit, but it is unclear why only Python editing would be featured for Komodo IDE. http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit is the page with the link people need to download just the editor. Does K.Edit let me run a program with one key, like F5 in IDLE? If so, does it leave me in interactive mode (python -i) as IDLE does? -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo 7 release (Python development tools)
Hello, My name is Todd. I'm the lead developer for Komodo IDE (Interactive Development Environment) and Komodo Edit (a free, open-source editor) at ActiveState. I wanted to announce that the newest version, Komodo 7, has been released: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide Python has long been one of the main languages supported by Komodo, so we're always getting useful feedback and suggestions. For Komodo 7, we've incorporated a lot of this feedback into enhancing our Python features. * Python Code Profiling (IDE only) Users have asked if there is a way to find out why their programs are taking so long to run. Komodo IDE 7 can show a graph of the methods and calls made by your program, so that you can detect where your CPU is being taken up. * Sophisticated Syntax Checking Choose between multiple syntax checkers like PyLint, PyFlakes and PyChecker. Provides language-specific syntax checking for CSS/JavaScript/Django inside HTML template languages like Django. * Code Collaboration (IDE only) We wanted to make pair programming easier. With the collaboration feature, multiple users can edit a document at the same time. It's kind of like Google Docs, but for code editing! * Speed With Komodo 7 you'll notice a lot snappier Komodo start-up time, lower CPU utilization - particularly when idle, and lower memory usage for large projects. * Even more... There are way more features in Komodo 7 than I can outline in a single post, so check out the online web pages for more Komodo 7 enhancements: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/python-editor Again, note that Komodo comes in two different flavours: 1) Komodo Edit - completely free and fully open-source editor, offering smart code completions, syntax checking, code colorizing, sophisticated editing and more. 2) Komodo IDE - a full featured IDE, offering advanced debugging, interactive shells, code browsing, source code control, database integration, unit testing, regular expression tools and more. Try out Komodo 7 and let me know what you think. We really appreciate the support and feedback! Cheers, Todd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
[overquoting follows to prove my point] Someone who claims to care as much as you do about Usenet ought to have better quoting habits. You should be ashamed of yourself. In article <4ce0f788$0$30018$c3e8da3$76a7c...@news.astraweb.com>, John Doe wrote: >alex23 wrote: > >> John Doe wrote: > >>> Google Groups spews a massive amount of sewage onto UseNet >>> everyday. Google Groups is your news server. You should be >>> ashamed >> >> Get over yourself. > >You too, and stop using the spammers den while you are at it. >-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >See also googled groups >> Path: >> news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >> From: alex23 >> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python >> Subject: Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart? >> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:42:36 -0800 (PST) >> Organization: http://groups.google.com >> Lines: 6 >> Message-ID: <15016ae4-b341-4f4e-ac84-62fe7f93f217 >> g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com> >> References: <4ce07839$0$17214$c3e8da3$eb767761 news.astraweb.com> >> <428b98ca-72bf-4e3b-ad8a-dafe2fc4d553 v28g2000prn.googlegroups.com> >> <4ce0c065$0$23246$c3e8da3$a9097924 news.astraweb.com> >> <6ae54329-c652-4a59-b0e2-4c2038f58d5a x4g2000pre.googlegroups.com> >> <4ce0ea79$0$29271$c3e8da3$88b277c5 news.astraweb.com> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 115.64.196.128 >> Mime-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1289810556 23916 127.0.0.1 (15 Nov 2010 08:42:36 >> GMT) >> X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:42:36 + (UTC) >> Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com >> Injection-Info: g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=115.64.196.128; >> posting-account=rYyWJQoAAACVJO77HvcyJfa3TnGYCqK_ >> User-Agent: G2/1.0 >> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) >> AppleWebKit/534.12 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/9.0.576.0 >> Safari/534.12,gzip(gfe) >> -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Look, it's your affair if you want to play with five people, but don't go calling it doubles." --John Cleese anticipates Usenet -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
Eric Promislow wrote: > Komodo always asks you if you want to restore the last workspace > when it wasn't shut down cleanly the previous time. Why is shutting down in Windows XP more difficult for version 6? The only thing I have open is a single small Python file. Apparently version 6 is unable to handle the ordinary shutdown command it gets from Windows. Or maybe there is some setting that can correct the problem. Version 5 shutdown just fine when Windows was restarted. -- > > The reason for this is that it's possible Komodo ended up in a state > where > it's hung due to a particular workspace configuration. This question > lets > you bring up Komodo in a possibly sane configuration instead. > > Is this the best thing to do? Wouldn't it be better to manually > remove a > couple of config files, and restart Komodo in a basic but sane > configuration? > You could make a good case for that, and may I suggest that > http://community.activestate.com/forums/komodo-discussion would be a > better place to continue this particular discussion? > > Thanks for bringing up the issue though. > > Eric Promislow > Komodo Developer > > see also googled groups > Path: > news.astraweb.com!border1.newsrouter.astraweb.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!37g2000prx.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: Eric Promislow > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart? > Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:15:48 -0800 (PST) > Organization: http://groups.google.com > Lines: 22 > Message-ID: <2f84eafd-f7fb-48a5-bd23-3e6a311ae99d 37g2000prx.googlegroups.com> > References: <4ce07839$0$17214$c3e8da3$eb767761 news.astraweb.com> > <428b98ca-72bf-4e3b-ad8a-dafe2fc4d553 v28g2000prn.googlegroups.com> > <4ce0c065$0$23246$c3e8da3$a9097924 news.astraweb.com> > <6ae54329-c652-4a59-b0e2-4c2038f58d5a x4g2000pre.googlegroups.com> > <4ce0ea79$0$29271$c3e8da3$88b277c5 news.astraweb.com> > <15016ae4-b341-4f4e-ac84-62fe7f93f217 g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com> > <4ce0f788$0$30018$c3e8da3$76a7c58f news.astraweb.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.244.102.2 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1289855748 13278 127.0.0.1 (15 Nov 2010 21:15:48 > GMT) > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:15:48 + (UTC) > Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com > Injection-Info: 37g2000prx.googlegroups.com; posting-host=204.244.102.2; > posting-account=AeH9QwoAAABhC1IaTOmk_lG2sf4IeBZX > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; > rv:1.9.2.11) Gecko/20101012 Firefox/3.6.11 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe) > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
Komodo always asks you if you want to restore the last workspace when it wasn't shut down cleanly the previous time. The reason for this is that it's possible Komodo ended up in a state where it's hung due to a particular workspace configuration. This question lets you bring up Komodo in a possibly sane configuration instead. Is this the best thing to do? Wouldn't it be better to manually remove a couple of config files, and restart Komodo in a basic but sane configuration? You could make a good case for that, and may I suggest that http://community.activestate.com/forums/komodo-discussion would be a better place to continue this particular discussion? Thanks for bringing up the issue though. Eric Promislow Komodo Developer -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
alex23 wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> Google Groups spews a massive amount of sewage onto UseNet >> everyday. Google Groups is your news server. You should be >> ashamed > > Get over yourself. You too, and stop using the spammers den while you are at it. -- See also googled groups > Path: > news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: alex23 > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart? > Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:42:36 -0800 (PST) > Organization: http://groups.google.com > Lines: 6 > Message-ID: <15016ae4-b341-4f4e-ac84-62fe7f93f217 > g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com> > References: <4ce07839$0$17214$c3e8da3$eb767761 news.astraweb.com> > <428b98ca-72bf-4e3b-ad8a-dafe2fc4d553 v28g2000prn.googlegroups.com> > <4ce0c065$0$23246$c3e8da3$a9097924 news.astraweb.com> > <6ae54329-c652-4a59-b0e2-4c2038f58d5a x4g2000pre.googlegroups.com> > <4ce0ea79$0$29271$c3e8da3$88b277c5 news.astraweb.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 115.64.196.128 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1289810556 23916 127.0.0.1 (15 Nov 2010 08:42:36 > GMT) > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:42:36 + (UTC) > Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com > Injection-Info: g20g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=115.64.196.128; > posting-account=rYyWJQoAAACVJO77HvcyJfa3TnGYCqK_ > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) > AppleWebKit/534.12 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/9.0.576.0 > Safari/534.12,gzip(gfe) > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
John Doe wrote: > Google Groups spews a massive amount of sewage onto UseNet > everyday. Google Groups is your news server. You should be > ashamed, and I want to help. Get over yourself. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
alex23 wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> UseNet would be better off if Google Groups didn't exist, IMO. > > I'm sorry, are you cranky because you didn't get the answer you > wanted when you posted in a less relevant forum? Do you realize the harm your filthy news server is doing to UseNet? Many regulars here block all of those who post through Google Groups. That is because your stinking news server spams UseNet like no other ever has. > Why do you think comp.lang.python is more appropriate than the > Komodo forums? Because I prefer posting to UseNet. Komodo is a popular subject here. > What does Google Groups have to do with this issue? Google Groups spews a massive amount of sewage onto UseNet everyday. Google Groups is your news server. You should be ashamed, and I want to help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
John Doe wrote: > UseNet would be better off if Google Groups didn't exist, IMO. I'm sorry, are you cranky because you didn't get the answer you wanted when you posted in a less relevant forum? Why do you think comp.lang.python is more appropriate than the Komodo forums? What does Google Groups have to do with this issue? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
alex23 wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> Does Komodo have to be shut down individually every time I want >> to restart Windows XP? Is there some way to eliminate the >> persistent Workspace Restore error after every restart? I have >> tried setting it to restore files without asking, but that does >> not seem to work. > > You'd be better served asking this on the Komodo forums: UseNet would be better off if Google Groups didn't exist, IMO. -- > http://community.activestate.com/forums/komodo-support > > see also googled groups > Path: > news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!v28g2000prn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: alex23 > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart? > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:03:36 -0800 (PST) > Organization: http://groups.google.com > Lines: 8 > Message-ID: <428b98ca-72bf-4e3b-ad8a-dafe2fc4d553 > v28g2000prn.googlegroups.com> > References: <4ce07839$0$17214$c3e8da3$eb767761 news.astraweb.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.102.44.25 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1289793817 25517 127.0.0.1 (15 Nov 2010 04:03:37 > GMT) > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:03:37 + (UTC) > Complaints-To: groups-abuse google.com > Injection-Info: v28g2000prn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=130.102.44.25; > posting-account=rYyWJQoAAACVJO77HvcyJfa3TnGYCqK_ > User-Agent: G2/1.0 > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; > rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100611 Firefox/3.6.4,gzip(gfe) > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
On Nov 15, 10:00 am, John Doe wrote: > Does Komodo have to be shut down individually every time I want to > restart Windows XP? Is there some way to eliminate the persistent > Workspace Restore error after every restart? I have tried setting it > to restore files without asking, but that does not seem to work. You'd be better served asking this on the Komodo forums: http://community.activestate.com/forums/komodo-support -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo 6, why "Workspace Restore" after every restart?
Does Komodo have to be shut down individually every time I want to restart Windows XP? Is there some way to eliminate the persistent Workspace Restore error after every restart? I have tried setting it to restore files without asking, but that does not seem to work. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo IDE 6 released
Hello all, We are pleased to tell you that Komodo 6.0 has been released. With this release Komodo adds full support for Python 3 (Python 2 already supported) - with syntax coloring, error reporting, automatic code completions, debugging, code browsing and interactive Python shell. The new features of Komodo 6 include: * Python 3 support * Places - a smarter file system and project viewer * Publishing - to synchronize local and remote file systems (IDE) * Database Explorer - visualize database tables, run SQL queries (IDE) * Toolbox - refactored tool layout and a new invoke-tool helper * HTML5 and CSS3 - updated for the latest web technologies * Faster - common actions are now even faster than Komodo 5, wow! * Rx Toolkit - language-specific matching for Python, PHP, JS (IDE) For a detailed overview of the new Komodo 6 features, check out these feature pages: http://www.activestate.com/komodo-ide/whats-new http://community.activestate.com/komodo-60-features Enjoy, Todd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
On Jul 1, 9:39 am, John Doe wrote: > Is there a way to increase the line selection gutter width? It > seems to be only one pixel wide. In other words... When I single > click on the left side of the line, in order to automatically > select the line, the pointer must be in a precise single pixel > location immediately to the left of the line. Or am I doing > something wrong? > > Thanks. > > By the way... I can see that clicking and dragging to select > multiple lines can be done somewhere in the space of the first > character on the lines, but I am talking about single clicking to > select the single line. You can easily do this with a Komodo macro. First you get a reference to the current buffer like so. In JS: var view = ko.views.manager.currentView; var scimoz = view.scimoz; // the editor In Python code: currentView = components.classes["@activestate.com/koViewService;1"].\ getService(Components.interfaces.koIViewService).currentView view = currentView.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.koIScintillaView) scimoz = view.scimoz To get the current width of the line-selection margin: oldValue = scimoz.getMarginWidth(2) # Margin #2, width given in pixels To set a new value: scimoz.setMarginWidth(2, newValue) # 4 looks like a good value There is no boundary between the breakpoint margin (1) and the line- selection margin. If you want this behaviour in general, you can write a post-file-open macro that will set the margin after a file is opened. You currently can't write a post-file-open trigger in Python, (see bug http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=45265) Hope this helps, Eric Promislow Komodo Team Member -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
André wrote: > ... set it up so that linenumbers are shown, then you get a much > larger target to click and select the line. Yes... And it allows clicking and dragging the number area to select multiple lines. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
On Jul 1, 1:39 pm, John Doe wrote: > Is there a way to increase the line selection gutter width? It > seems to be only one pixel wide. In other words... When I single > click on the left side of the line, in order to automatically > select the line, the pointer must be in a precise single pixel > location immediately to the left of the line. Or am I doing > something wrong? > Assuming it is the same behavior as for Komodo IDE, if you set it up so that linenumbers are shown, then you get a much larger target to click and select the line. André > Thanks. > > By the way... I can see that clicking and dragging to select > multiple lines can be done somewhere in the space of the first > character on the lines, but I am talking about single clicking to > select the single line. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
On 07/01/2010 06:39 PM, John Doe wrote: > Is there a way to increase the line selection gutter width? It > seems to be only one pixel wide. In other words... When I single > click on the left side of the line, in order to automatically > select the line, the pointer must be in a precise single pixel > location immediately to the left of the line. Or am I doing > something wrong? > > Thanks. > > By the way... I can see that clicking and dragging to select > multiple lines can be done somewhere in the space of the first > character on the lines, but I am talking about single clicking to > select the single line. Not sure if this factoid is of any use to you, but many editors support selecting lines by tripple-clicking. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:39 AM, John Doe wrote: > Is there a way to increase the line selection gutter width? It > seems to be only one pixel wide. In other words... When I single > click on the left side of the line, in order to automatically > select the line, the pointer must be in a precise single pixel > location immediately to the left of the line. Or am I doing > something wrong? I've been using Komodo for 3.5 years and didn't even realize there was such a gutter until you pointed it out. I don't see any way to make it larger either -- how odd. When I want to select full lines, I use the keyboard. I have Alt+Home mapped to the Beginning of Line command (the one that always takes you to the first column rather than the first character), and then Shift+Up/Down to select. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
OT Komodo Edit, line selection gutter is one pixel wide?
Is there a way to increase the line selection gutter width? It seems to be only one pixel wide. In other words... When I single click on the left side of the line, in order to automatically select the line, the pointer must be in a precise single pixel location immediately to the left of the line. Or am I doing something wrong? Thanks. By the way... I can see that clicking and dragging to select multiple lines can be done somewhere in the space of the first character on the lines, but I am talking about single clicking to select the single line. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ANN: Komodo 6.0.0b1 -- adds Python 3 support
Hello all, We are pleased to tell you that Komodo IDE and Komodo Edit 6.0.0 Beta 1 were released today. If you're using 6.0.0 Alpha 2 then you can use Komodo's auto-update mechanism. Otherwise, you can get Beta 1 at: http://downloads.activestate.com/Komodo/releases/6.0.0b1/ For Pythonistas the most significant recent changes are the addition of Python 3 code intelligence support (i.e. autocomplete, calltips, Go To Definition, sections list, code browser)! Komodo 5 (the current production version) already supported background syntax checking and debugging for Python 3. This beta release finally rounds out Komodo's language support for Python 3. Test Framework Survey = We're running a survey on what Test Automation Frameworks people use (both in Python and not). We'd appreciate it if you would take the time to fill that out: only 4 questions. We'll post results from the survey on our blog (http://www.activestate.com/blog) next month. (We'll be giving away some t-shirts, too!) http://surveymonkey.com/s/june2010as Thanks! What else is in Komodo 6.0b1? ===== Other significant changes in Komodo 6.0.0b1 are: * New integrated toolbox * all your tools will now belong to one pane * faster loading and firing * tools are now standalone JSON files, that can be easily copied and exported * more features are planned * in the "renovations are underway in order to serve you better" department, tools in projects currently do not work. This should be fixed in the nightlies fairly soon. The toolbox main menu is also not operational. * UI improvements * goto-line is now an inline panel * child dialogs appear on same screen as Komodo window * better-looking icons * some menu rearrangements * Places File Manager * one-click access to all parent directories * it's now easier to move to recently visited directories * publishing (IDE only) * now works over slower connections * show diffs between local and remote files * numerous UI improvements * Rx toolkit (IDE only) * now supports JavaScript For a more detailed overview, check out the Komodo 6 descriptive features page: http://community.activestate.com/komodo-60-features As well as new features, Komodo 6 comes with a whole lot of enhancements and bug fixes. See the "Release Notes" section in Komodo's internal help viewer for the full list of changes. Please try it out and give us your feedback: emailhttp://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/komodo-beta bugs http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Komodo forumhttp://community.activestate.com/products/Komodo Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick Product Manager, Komodo and Python ActiveState, The Dynamic Language Experts http://www.activestate.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo Edit: Editor settings?
On Apr 30, 8:43 am, John Doe wrote: > I would very much like to stop code from expanding automatically. > Like when several consecutive lines of code have a plus sigh in the > left margin, meaning they are collapsed, when I go to copy or cut one > of those collapsed lines, the collapsed lines that follow that line > automatically expand. Are there any related settings that might keep > code from automatically expanding when nearby code is being edited? It doesn't seem so. Any cutting of a folded block seems to automatically open the following one. This is true for the commercial IDE as well, unfortunately. On the plus side, most of the app logic is in Python, I believe, so you could always hack on it yourself :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo Edit: Editor settings?
Komodo Edit 5.1 I would very much like to stop code from expanding automatically. Like when several consecutive lines of code have a plus sigh in the left margin, meaning they are collapsed, when I go to copy or cut one of those collapsed lines, the collapsed lines that follow that line automatically expand. Are there any related settings that might keep code from automatically expanding when nearby code is being edited? Thanks. Otherwise and overall, IMO it is a great free program. Love the color coding. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo(!)
Kee Nethery wrote: I've heard there is a nice add-on to Eclipse but Eclipse has even more setup variables than Wings and I've avoided it for that reason. Hi I've just started using python and since I've been an eclipse user for many years I tried http://pydev.sourceforge.net/ and I really enjoyed that! :-) cheers Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Bettini, PhD in Computer Science, DI, Univ. Torino ICQ# lbetto, 16080134 (GNU/Linux User # 158233) HOME: http://www.lorenzobettini.it MUSIC: http://www.purplesucker.com http://www.myspace.com/supertrouperabba BLOGS: http://tronprog.blogspot.com http://longlivemusic.blogspot.com http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite http://www.gnu.org/software/gengetopt http://www.gnu.org/software/gengen http://doublecpp.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo(!)
On Aug 14, 2009, at 1:55 PM, William wrote: Personally, I rather like Wing I tried Wing and basically as a newbie, there were too many setup parameters that I did not know how to set correctly and I could never get it to work for me. It runs under X11 and I guess that was just a bit too techie for me to get it to work properly. It's probably a very nice IDE and they were certainly helpful with their support but after a bunch of back and forths I decided to go back to Komodo. Have not looked at NetBeans. I'm a newbie and I need something that just works. Launch it and use it. Komodo meets that need for me. I've heard there is a nice add-on to Eclipse but Eclipse has even more setup variables than Wings and I've avoided it for that reason. Kee -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo(!)
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Kee Nethery wrote: > From the web site it looks like the free version does not include the > debugging stuff. > > I've been using the paid version with the debugger functionality and I find > it easy to use and incredibly nice for trying to understand what the code is > doing. The built-in debugger has saved me tons of time, especially when > troubleshooting CGIs. > > I'm using a Mac and of the Python IDEs I looked at, Komodo had the easiest > to use user interface, in my opinion. I've been using Netbeans with Python support and have enjoyed it. Have you tried it? It has integrated debugging, etc as well, and the price (free) is right. I'm curious how it compares to Komodo Thanks, John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo(!)
Personally, I rather like Wing From: Kee Nethery To: python-list@python.org Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:28:54 PM Subject: Re: Komodo(!) >From the web site it looks like the free version does not include the >debugging stuff. I've been using the paid version with the debugger functionality and I find it easy to use and incredibly nice for trying to understand what the code is doing. The built-in debugger has saved me tons of time, especially when troubleshooting CGIs. I'm using a Mac and of the Python IDEs I looked at, Komodo had the easiest to use user interface, in my opinion. Kee --http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo(!)
From the web site it looks like the free version does not include the debugging stuff. I've been using the paid version with the debugger functionality and I find it easy to use and incredibly nice for trying to understand what the code is doing. The built-in debugger has saved me tons of time, especially when troubleshooting CGIs. I'm using a Mac and of the Python IDEs I looked at, Komodo had the easiest to use user interface, in my opinion. Kee -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo(!)
Probably this isn't news to anyone but me, but just in case: Last I heard Komodo was a very highly regarded IDE that unfortunately cost money. Yesterday I discovered that they now have an editor available for free. Doesn't contain all the features of the IDE, but just having glanced at it it seems to contain more than I'll ever use. What I really like about it is that one can write Komodo scripts in Python (using an extensive API allowing various manipulations of the current document). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
If you make line numbers visible (View -> View Line Numbers) then you can do what you want in the line numbers gutter. I am using the free editor-only Komodo Edit. Apparently that does not work here. I believe it was a recent change. What version are you using? You could try the latest nightly build: http://downloads.activestate.com/Komodo/nightly/ Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick trentm at activestate.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
Trent Mick wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> There is a region on the left margin to the left of the code > BTW, we call those regions "gutters" of the editing area. Okay. >> the right of the outlining area, in between the code and the >> outlining area. It looks like an area used to select lines. But >> dragging the pointer down that area does nothing apparent. > If you make line numbers visible (View -> View Line Numbers) then > you can do what you want in the line numbers gutter. I am using the free editor-only Komodo Edit. Apparently that does not work here. -- Interested in making Windows and games obey your verbal commands? Continuous command recognition (much easier than speech recognition) can now be enabled using Naturally Speaking and freeware Dragonfly. See (comp.lang.beta) for discussion. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
John Doe wrote: Another question... There is a region on the left margin to the left of the code and to BTW, we call those regions "gutters" of the editing area. the right of the outlining area, in between the code and the outlining area. It looks like an area used to select lines. But dragging the pointer down that area does nothing apparent. Isn't that supposed to select lines of text? Maybe I have colors set wrong, but selected text does show up when selected other ways. Or maybe that area is nonfunctional, left over from the IDE? If you make line numbers visible (View -> View Line Numbers) then you can do what you want in the line numbers gutter. Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick trentm at activestate.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
Dave Angel wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> Dave Angel wrote: ... >> Lastly... Is there a way to force the editor to open text (*.txt) >> files as Python files so that they are color-coded? Without >> changing the *.txt extension? I will be editing text files that >> are part of a Python program (Dragonfly). Having the text >> color-coded will help. I can probably make a script to do a >> workaround, but being able to just hit the Save button would be >> best. > I haven't tried it in Komodo IDE, but there is a preferences item > called File Associations. In it, try choosing *.txt, and change > the language drop-down to Python. Did that. > Presumably when you're done with the special case, you'd change it > back to "text file" Apparently works great (except for some strange GUI behavior in that dialogue, but that is a completely different, minor issue). For some reason, seems Komodo does not allow itself to be configured from Windows file types to open text files, but that is not necessary or even desirable here. I will just have it open the last files being worked on. Apparently the editor behaves the same way as it did for Python files. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
John Doe wrote: Dave Angel wrote: ... Quickest way to indent multiple lines is to select them, then press tab. Thanks. Useful because I usually paste blocks of code. Lastly... Is there a way to force the editor to open text (*.txt) files as Python files so that they are color-coded? Without changing the *.txt extension? I will be editing text files that are part of a Python program (Dragonfly). Having the text color-coded will help. I can probably make a script to do a workaround, but being able to just hit the Save button would be best. Thanks. I haven't tried it in Komodo IDE, but there is a preferences item called File Associations. In it, try choosing *.txt, and change the language drop-down to Python. Presumably when you're done with the special case, you'd change it back to "text file" -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
Dave Angel wrote: ... > Quickest way to indent multiple lines is to select them, then > press tab. Thanks. Useful because I usually paste blocks of code. Lastly... Is there a way to force the editor to open text (*.txt) files as Python files so that they are color-coded? Without changing the *.txt extension? I will be editing text files that are part of a Python program (Dragonfly). Having the text color-coded will help. I can probably make a script to do a workaround, but being able to just hit the Save button would be best. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
John Doe wrote: George Sakkis wrote: John Doe wrote: Having trouble tabifying a section of Python code. Code -- Tabify Region Does it work for anyone else? Yes it does, you have to select a region before (e.g. ctrl+A for the whole file). Regardless, the common standard indentation is 4 spaces; avoid tabs if you can. Actually, what I was looking for was indent, not tab. And I found that in the menu. Another question... There is a region on the left margin to the left of the code and to the right of the outlining area, in between the code and the outlining area. It looks like an area used to select lines. But dragging the pointer down that area does nothing apparent. Isn't that supposed to select lines of text? Maybe I have colors set wrong, but selected text does show up when selected other ways. Or maybe that area is nonfunctional, left over from the IDE? Thanks. Quickest way to indent multiple lines is to select them, then press tab. However, there is a a menu item for it, Code->Increase Line Indent. In the Komodo IDE, the region you're describing is used to set breakpoints. As far as I know, there's no specific 'select lines' mouse action, you just select characters that happen to constitute whole lines. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
George Sakkis wrote: > John Doe wrote: >> Having trouble tabifying a section of Python code. >> Code -- Tabify Region >> Does it work for anyone else? > > Yes it does, you have to select a region before (e.g. ctrl+A for > the whole file). Regardless, the common standard indentation is 4 > spaces; avoid tabs if you can. Actually, what I was looking for was indent, not tab. And I found that in the menu. Another question... There is a region on the left margin to the left of the code and to the right of the outlining area, in between the code and the outlining area. It looks like an area used to select lines. But dragging the pointer down that area does nothing apparent. Isn't that supposed to select lines of text? Maybe I have colors set wrong, but selected text does show up when selected other ways. Or maybe that area is nonfunctional, left over from the IDE? Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
John Doe wrote: Having trouble tabifying a section of Python code. Code -- Tabify Region Does it work for anyone else? Thanks. Hello JD, I'm using Komodo IDE 5.1.1, and tabify works fine, with a column setting of 4. However, I'd never tabify Python source code, not sure why you need the feature. I only use untabify, and that on sources that come from somewhere else. I also configured it to make tabs visible, which makes it a lot easier to see what's happening. (Or else it defaulted that way; anyway, it's much easier to see what's going on when tabs and spaces are visible) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ActiveState Komodo Edit?
On Apr 26, 11:08 pm, John Doe wrote: > Having trouble tabifying a section of Python code. > Code -- Tabify Region > Does it work for anyone else? Yes it does, you have to select a region before (e.g. ctrl+A for the whole file). Regardless, the common standard indentation is 4 spaces; avoid tabs if you can. George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ActiveState Komodo Edit?
Having trouble tabifying a section of Python code. Code -- Tabify Region Does it work for anyone else? Thanks. -- Interested in making Windows and games obey your verbal commands? Continuous command recognition (much easier than speech recognition) can now be enabled using Naturally Speaking and freeware Dragonfly. See (comp.lang.beta) for discussion. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo Edit newbie Q
John Dann wrote: I'm learning Python using the Komodo Edit freeware code editor. One thing I'm finding a little confusing is that the code completion lists (what I would call Intellisense coming from a .Net background) are often very incomplete, especially with imported classes like wx. It's like KE can't look far enough into these classes to offer a comprehensive list of method etc options. I presume that I haven't possibly omitted some KE setup step that would give more detail to the code completion? Hi John, There are some Komodo forum posts that help out when dealing with wx completions in Komodo, this link below may be particularly helpful: <http://community.activestate.com/forum-topic/calltip-and-autocomplete-wxpython-differs-between-komodo-and-pythonwin> If not then maybe this is just a limitation of the KE freeware (because it's free?). Does anyone know if say Komodo IDE offers more in the way of code completion (I know that it offers more things in the way of debugging etc, but it's code completion specifically that I'm asking about here). Or is one of the other Python IDEs maybe more capable when it comes to code completion? Komodo Edit and Komodo IDE both use the exact same code intelligence system, so what occurs in Edit occurs in the IDE version. Cheers, Todd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Komodo Edit newbie Q
I'm learning Python using the Komodo Edit freeware code editor. One thing I'm finding a little confusing is that the code completion lists (what I would call Intellisense coming from a .Net background) are often very incomplete, especially with imported classes like wx. It's like KE can't look far enough into these classes to offer a comprehensive list of method etc options. I presume that I haven't possibly omitted some KE setup step that would give more detail to the code completion? If not then maybe this is just a limitation of the KE freeware (because it's free?). Does anyone know if say Komodo IDE offers more in the way of code completion (I know that it offers more things in the way of debugging etc, but it's code completion specifically that I'm asking about here). Or is one of the other Python IDEs maybe more capable when it comes to code completion? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: nokia s60 python code debugging with komodo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > anyway I can setup and debug nokia s60 python in komodo ( a python IDE > )? Apoloies for the crazy-late reply. We tried to get Python debugging working on Nokia phones a while back but couldn't get far because the socket implementation of the Nokia Python port wasn't up to snuff. Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
nokia s60 python code debugging with komodo
anyway I can setup and debug nokia s60 python in komodo ( a python IDE )? thanks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
Steve Thompson wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and > the open source version of python. Here is the best answer to that: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/tree/browse_frm/thread/e8291fcb1418e80/16f39060f654402f?rnum=1&hl=en&q=ActivePython+trent&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fcomp.lang.python%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2Fe8291fcb1418e80%2F98c87a6a5dc8f3c0%3Ftvc%3D1%26q%3DActivePython+trent%26hl%3Den%26#doc_b6f732ab2c8434ef http://tinyurl.com/y7r47q > Would I have to unistall my opend souce > python? No. As BartlebyScrivener wrote you shouldn't do that. You can easily install ActivePython side-by-side with another Python install on Linux. > Additonally, how does Active State's Komodo IDE vs. the eric3 IDE > unler SuSE Linux v. 10.i? > > Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there > more easy and more productive IDE's for perl? *I* like Komodo, but then I am biased because I am one of its developers. :) I presume you meant Python instead of Perl there, but if not, Komodo does support Perl as well as Python (and PHP, JavaScript, Ruby, Tcl and XSLT too). This is a pretty good review of Python IDEs (although note that most, if not all, of the IDEs reviewed there will have advanced a few versions). http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.html Komodo 4 is currently under public beta (Komodo 4 beta 1 is out now and beta 2 should be released later this week). Try it out: http://www.activestate.com/products/komodo/beta.plex#features Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
John Machin wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and >> the open source version of python. Would I have to unistall my opend souce >> python? Additonally, how does Active State's Komodo IDE vs. the eric3 IDE >> unler SuSE Linux v. 10.i? >> >> Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there >> more easy and more productive IDE's for perl? >> >> I'm urining Gnome v. 12.2.2 and Eric v 3.8.1 > > I'm not sure which to recommend: a spelling checker or a catheter :-) > You _are_ bad ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
Steve Thompson wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and > the open source version of python. Would I have to unistall my opend souce > python? Additonally, how does Active State's Komodo IDE vs. the eric3 IDE > unler SuSE Linux v. 10.i? > > Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there > more easy and more productive IDE's for perl? > > I'm urining Gnome v. 12.2.2 and Eric v 3.8.1 I'm not sure which to recommend: a spelling checker or a catheter :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
Steve Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:09:36 -0800, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > >> Steve Thompson wrote: >>> I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and >>> the open source version of python. >> The biggest difference at the moment is that ActiveState is still using >> Python 2.4.3 in their distribution. They should be coming out with 2.5 >> soon. >> >> Sounds like you are running Suse? So you already have some version of >> Python, right? You can search this group at comp.lang.python on Google >> Groups--try "python versions linux"--or something like that--but the >> issue you need to watch out for is running two different versions on >> Linux. >> >> Long and short, you don't want to uninstall the version of Python that >> came with your Suse, because other programs on your machine probably >> use that particular version. It's easy to install an ADDITIONAL >> distribution of Python and run it separately, but again. Search the >> list >> for how to do that, and how to run them separately once you do. >> >> I'm just moving to Linux myself, so can't provide the expertise. Unless >> there is some killer feature of 2.5 you need, I would just use the >> Python that came with your Suse. >> >> rd > > Thanks BartlebyScrivener, but are there any other IDE's that are better, > in your opinion, than Eric version 3. I'm using gnome and eric is built > for KDE. I don't care it there open source or Id I have tp puchase one. > > Thanks again, > > Steve I like Eclipse/Pydev better hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
Steve Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:35:21 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > > > Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there > > more easy and more productive IDE's for perl? Perl? You're on a Python list? Anyway, the subject of IDEs comes up every other day. If you want comparisons or discussion of Eric and Python, search the group for "Eric IDE" http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/search?q=eric+ide&start=0&scoring=d&; If the link breaks, use: http://tinyurl.com/yxy8vv I use vim 7.0 and Komodo myself. Both are cross platform. You'll see hundreds of different opinions here. rd "A couple of months in the laboratory can save a couple of hours in the library." -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:09:36 -0800, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > Steve Thompson wrote: >> >> I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and >> the open source version of python. > > The biggest difference at the moment is that ActiveState is still using > Python 2.4.3 in their distribution. They should be coming out with 2.5 > soon. > > Sounds like you are running Suse? So you already have some version of > Python, right? You can search this group at comp.lang.python on Google > Groups--try "python versions linux"--or something like that--but the > issue you need to watch out for is running two different versions on > Linux. > > Long and short, you don't want to uninstall the version of Python that > came with your Suse, because other programs on your machine probably > use that particular version. It's easy to install an ADDITIONAL > distribution of Python and run it separately, but again. Search the > list > for how to do that, and how to run them separately once you do. > > I'm just moving to Linux myself, so can't provide the expertise. Unless > there is some killer feature of 2.5 you need, I would just use the > Python that came with your Suse. > > rd Thanks BartlebyScrivener, but are there any other IDE's that are better, in your opinion, than Eric version 3. I'm using gnome and eric is built for KDE. I don't care it there open source or Id I have tp puchase one. Thanks again, Steve -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:35:21 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and > the open source version of python. Would I have to unistall my opend souce > python? Additonally, how does Active State's Komodo IDE vs. the eric3 IDE > unler SuSE Linux v. 10.i? > > Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there > more easy and more productive IDE's for perl? > > I'm urining Gnome v. 12.2.2 and Eric v 3.8.1 > > Thanks Steve Sorry, it was too early in the morning when I wrote this. The last 2 paragraphs should read "Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there more easy and more productive IDE's for python?". "I'm using Gnome v. 12.2.2 and Eric v 3.8.1" Thanks again, Steve -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Active State and Komodo...
Steve Thompson wrote: > > I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and > the open source version of python. The biggest difference at the moment is that ActiveState is still using Python 2.4.3 in their distribution. They should be coming out with 2.5 soon. Sounds like you are running Suse? So you already have some version of Python, right? You can search this group at comp.lang.python on Google Groups--try "python versions linux"--or something like that--but the issue you need to watch out for is running two different versions on Linux. Long and short, you don't want to uninstall the version of Python that came with your Suse, because other programs on your machine probably use that particular version. It's easy to install an ADDITIONAL distribution of Python and run it separately, but again. Search the list for how to do that, and how to run them separately once you do. I'm just moving to Linux myself, so can't provide the expertise. Unless there is some killer feature of 2.5 you need, I would just use the Python that came with your Suse. rd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Active State and Komodo...
Hello all, I was wondering the differnced there were betwee Active State's python and the open source version of python. Would I have to unistall my opend souce python? Additonally, how does Active State's Komodo IDE vs. the eric3 IDE unler SuSE Linux v. 10.i? Addionally, is the eric IDE (version 3) an acceptible IDE or are there more easy and more productive IDE's for perl? I'm urining Gnome v. 12.2.2 and Eric v 3.8.1 Thanks Steve -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
"cool" is in the eyes of the beholder. While I agree that this can be useful in some situations, I find it very annoying when all I want (and need) to do is a simple dumber search and yet it tells me tons of useless searches that I don't care for. The inability to debug multi-threaded applications is pretty annoying too. It's unacceptable that a "professional" level debugger can't handle multithreaded code. But then again, I depend on Wing everyday. I just have to build my code with lots of "if debugging, don't thread else thread" type of constructs... vj wrote: > Forgot to mention WING's file search and replace is pretty cool and > powerful. It keeps checking changes in a different thread. If you want > to change yyy in say 100 files you would: > > 1. specify yyy in the search window > 2. A list of files get displayed with matching yyy > 3. As you fix replace yyy in the files the list of files with matching > yyy reduces automatically. This is very cool and very useful. > > Another thing I like about WING is that it warns you if you have tabs > ans spaces mixed in a file. > > The embedded python shell is also a useful feature. > > VJ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: > I have both, but the IDE I use every day is SPE, which is shareware. I'm > not savvy enough to enumerate a feature comparison, but I do find SPE > extremely friendly and intuitive. > > Gerry SPE is not shareware. It is open-source, gpl-licensed freeware. Donations however never hurt. Stani -- http://pythonide.stani.be -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Karlo Lozovina wrote: > "vj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:1162708898.962171.161120 > @e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: > > > The embedded python shell is also a useful feature. > > Yes, but Debug Probe and Stack Data absolutely rock! Can't live without > them anymore. Just set a breakpoint, run your code end then you can > inspect all of the structures via Stack Data, and you can play with those > structures using Debug Probe. Huge productivity boost... Those are pretty basic features that any environment supporting a symbolic python debugger should have, they're not a distinguishing feature for one particular IDE--I wouldn't expect any environment that didn't allow that to even be in the discussion. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
"vj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:1162708898.962171.161120 @e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com: > The embedded python shell is also a useful feature. Yes, but Debug Probe and Stack Data absolutely rock! Can't live without them anymore. Just set a breakpoint, run your code end then you can inspect all of the structures via Stack Data, and you can play with those structures using Debug Probe. Huge productivity boost... -- ___Karlo Lozovina - Mosor | | |.-.-. web: http://www.mosor.net || ICQ#: 10667163 | || _ | _ | Parce mihi domine quia Dalmata sum. |__|_|__||_|_| -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Forgot to mention WING's file search and replace is pretty cool and powerful. It keeps checking changes in a different thread. If you want to change yyy in say 100 files you would: 1. specify yyy in the search window 2. A list of files get displayed with matching yyy 3. As you fix replace yyy in the files the list of files with matching yyy reduces automatically. This is very cool and very useful. Another thing I like about WING is that it warns you if you have tabs ans spaces mixed in a file. The embedded python shell is also a useful feature. VJ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
vj wrote: > I've tried both and find WingIDE much faster than Komodo and the layout > is very well thought out. I love the way you can collapse all the > differnet panes with a few keystrokes. I also like their autocomplete > functionality. > +1 I use Wing and enjoy its auto-completion. Fuzzyman http://www.voidspace.org.uk > Wing is developed by a small company, focussed on python development, > while komodo supports all the major scripting languages. > > VJ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
I've tried both and find WingIDE much faster than Komodo and the layout is very well thought out. I love the way you can collapse all the differnet panes with a few keystrokes. I also like their autocomplete functionality. Wing is developed by a small company, focussed on python development, while komodo supports all the major scripting languages. VJ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
I have both, but the IDE I use every day is SPE, which is shareware. I'm not savvy enough to enumerate a feature comparison, but I do find SPE extremely friendly and intuitive. Gerry -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo
SpreadTooThin wrote: > Why is it that (On MAC OS X) in Komodo 3.5 Professional, if I try to > find something in my script, > I am unable to change the text it is searching for? > > I am not sure, especially given the limited amount of context, you will likely get a better response by posting a message at: http://support.activestate.com/products/Komodo And giving more details on your exact problem also helps (Mac type: PPC, Intel, Script type, etc...). Best regards, Todd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo
Mark Elston wrote: > * SpreadTooThin wrote (on 10/19/2006 8:47 AM): >> Why is it that (On MAC OS X) in Komodo 3.5 Professional, if I try to >> find something in my script, >> I am unable to change the text it is searching for? >> > > Perhaps Emacs might work better ... :) > > Mark Can you suggest tools (.el) to add to emacs for large projects management / browsing ? Thanks, hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Komodo
* SpreadTooThin wrote (on 10/19/2006 8:47 AM): > Why is it that (On MAC OS X) in Komodo 3.5 Professional, if I try to > find something in my script, > I am unable to change the text it is searching for? > Perhaps Emacs might work better ... :) Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Why is it that (On MAC OS X) in Komodo 3.5 Professional, if I try to find something in my script, I am unable to change the text it is searching for? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
On 13 Oct 2006 17:07:56 -0700, Sandra-24 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Salerno wrote: > > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > > even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have > > doubts about it. > > Well I don't know about the personal edition, but I've used Komodo and > Wing, and I must say that I chose Wing in the end because it's debugger > is so much more robust than komodo. I tried remote debugging mod_python > using komodo, and it just choked. I spent a week trying to get it to > work. Wing, on the other hand, just worked. I have only the highest > praise for the Wing IDE Debugger, once you get to know it, it's so much > more powerful than Komodo's. The time saved over Komodo was well worth > the money for the professional edition. Well, the beauty of Python is that even seasoned programmers have told me that they've only used pdb several times /in their lives/. -- Theerasak -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Paul Boddie wrote: > hg wrote: > > > > Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the > > QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to > > understand the business model). > > There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more: > > http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/ > http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric4.html > > [...] > Eric is in the state of being ported to Qt4 with Qt4 being available commercial licenced or gpl'ed on windows. Currently first Eric4 snapshots are availabe, more or less only waiting for QScintilla2 to arrive. See the mailing list if interested http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/mailman/listinfo/eric or http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eric Jürgen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Heikki Toivonen wrote: > Paul Boddie wrote: > > hg wrote: > >> PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was > >> "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? > > > > Flashbacks to the age of shareware seem to be commonplace in the realm > > of Eclipse, or that's how the scene seems to me. > > You are confusing Pydev and Pydev Extensions. The former is free, the > latter costs money and has some advanced features. The Pydev maintainer > launched Pydev Extensions to get some extra cash and let him spend more > time on Pydev development. I think hg was confusing the two; I was merely making general remarks about the Eclipse scene, and in particular certain J2EE-related products which seem to add little value yet come with a price tag. Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Paul Boddie wrote: > hg wrote: >> PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was >> "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? > > Flashbacks to the age of shareware seem to be commonplace in the realm > of Eclipse, or that's how the scene seems to me. You are confusing Pydev and Pydev Extensions. The former is free, the latter costs money and has some advanced features. The Pydev maintainer launched Pydev Extensions to get some extra cash and let him spend more time on Pydev development. -- Heikki Toivonen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
> "Eric is becoming an integral part of our Python development here at > Fluent. It's ability to set and trigger breakpoints in any thread is > unlike any other Python debugger we have tried. Through Eric's easy to > use interface and tight integration with PyQt, it has helped reduce > our debugging time, particularly on Windows platforms where it is used > heavily." > > --- Andrew Bushnell, Fluent Inc. I have found that both Komodo and Pydev can do this. Wing IDE does not (although you can debug any single thread). They are open to suggestions though, so if there is demand I am sure they would add it. Personally I have used Wing IDE, Komodo and Pydev. I think Wing IDE has the best debugging experience (for single threaded apps), and is the fastest. I really like the regex tool in Komodo, but eventually I more or less stopped using it. I am currently a Pydev user. I like Pydev because it is open source, cross platform, supports multi-threaded debugging, and simply because Eclipse provides so much stuff (although it is a pretty steep learning curve and it has its own annoyances). -- Heikki Toivonen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
> "Eric is becoming an integral part of our Python development here at > Fluent. It's ability to set and trigger breakpoints in any thread is > unlike any other Python debugger we have tried. Through Eric's easy to > use interface and tight integration with PyQt, it has helped reduce > our debugging time, particularly on Windows platforms where it is used > heavily." > > --- Andrew Bushnell, Fluent Inc. I have found that both Komodo and Pydev can do this. Wing IDE does not (although you can debug any single thread). They are open to suggestions though, so if there is demand I am sure they would add it. Personally I have used Wing IDE, Komodo and Pydev. I think Wing IDE has the best debugging experience (for single threaded apps), and is the fastest. I really like the regex tool in Komodo, but eventually I more or less stopped using it. I am currently a Pydev user. I like Pydev because it is open source, cross platform, supports multi-threaded debugging, and simply because Eclipse provides so much stuff (although it is a pretty steep learning curve and it has its own annoyances). -- Heikki Toivonen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have > doubts about it. > > Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the > personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but > the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. Well, I've tested out both for a little bit, and my first impression is that Wing is very slow and laggy (Personal Edition, at least) compared to Komodo. When you drag windows around, they leave huge trails, and the autocomplete really slows down the text. Komodo didn't seem to have these issues. But Wing's autocomplete definitely is more complete than Komodo's. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have > doubts about it. Well I don't know about the personal edition, but I've used Komodo and Wing, and I must say that I chose Wing in the end because it's debugger is so much more robust than komodo. I tried remote debugging mod_python using komodo, and it just choked. I spent a week trying to get it to work. Wing, on the other hand, just worked. I have only the highest praise for the Wing IDE Debugger, once you get to know it, it's so much more powerful than Komodo's. The time saved over Komodo was well worth the money for the professional edition. -Sandra -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
hg wrote: > > Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the > QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to > understand the business model). There are snapshots of Eric4 available, apparently. See here for more: http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/ http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric4.html [...] > PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was > "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? Flashbacks to the age of shareware seem to be commonplace in the realm of Eclipse, or that's how the scene seems to me. Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo (python IDE comparison)?
Todd Whiteman wrote: > Check the following links, somebody has already done the hard work for > you :) > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments > http://spyced.blogspot.com/2006/02/pycon-python-ide-review.html > http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.html > http://www.straw-dogs.co.uk/blog/python-ide-review > > Cheers, > Todd > > John Salerno wrote: >> Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them >> compared to one another (if you've used both). >> >> Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a >> glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't >> even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have >> doubts about it. >> >> Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the >> personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but >> the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. >> Nice, thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo (python IDE comparison)?
Check the following links, somebody has already done the hard work for you :) http://wiki.python.org/moin/IntegratedDevelopmentEnvironments http://spyced.blogspot.com/2006/02/pycon-python-ide-review.html http://spyced.blogspot.com/2005/09/review-of-6-python-ides.html http://www.straw-dogs.co.uk/blog/python-ide-review Cheers, Todd John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have > doubts about it. > > Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the > personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but > the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Eric available for Windows? I have found the install files before, > but they looked like it was for Linux. You need QScintilla IIRC, but: http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3-testimonials.html "Eric is becoming an integral part of our Python development here at Fluent. It's ability to set and trigger breakpoints in any thread is unlike any other Python debugger we have tried. Through Eric's easy to use interface and tight integration with PyQt, it has helped reduce our debugging time, particularly on Windows platforms where it is used heavily." --- Andrew Bushnell, Fluent Inc. So yeah. Good luck w/ it then, whatever your choice. -- Theerasak -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are >> still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few >> of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I >> wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am >> impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at >> Komodo ... hence my questions. > > I haven't used Komodo personally. I like Emacs. However: > > 1) *Appearing* sparse doesn't mean much---Emacs 22's GTK interface > 'looks' sparse as well, and sparse is the last word that comes to mind > when I think of Emacs > 2) I've *heard* good things about Komodo before from others---it might > just be awesome > > Perhaps you could try the Eric IDE? I hear SPE is not in active > dev.--- a pity to be sure, but I have used Eric before and found it > pretty easy to use and featureful. > > -- Theerasak Eric3 is very nice and moving forward ... I believe it is based on the QT library which free ... yet not so free under windows (i have yet to understand the business model). Emacs I use for very small project (my finger talk emacs ;-) ) ... but CTAGS is a bit cumbersome for large projects and as my architectures have much need for improvements, I need powerful tools to find my way around. PS: I also was taken aback by the fact that the PyDev license was "per-year" ... it's like buying Word for a year only ... isn't it ? hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are >> still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few >> of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I >> wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am >> impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at >> Komodo ... hence my questions. > > I haven't used Komodo personally. I like Emacs. However: > > 1) *Appearing* sparse doesn't mean much---Emacs 22's GTK interface > 'looks' sparse as well, and sparse is the last word that comes to mind > when I think of Emacs > 2) I've *heard* good things about Komodo before from others---it might > just be awesome > > Perhaps you could try the Eric IDE? I hear SPE is not in active > dev.--- a pity to be sure, but I have used Eric before and found it > pretty easy to use and featureful. > > -- Theerasak Is Eric available for Windows? I have found the install files before, but they looked like it was for Linux. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are > still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few > of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I > wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am > impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at > Komodo ... hence my questions. I haven't used Komodo personally. I like Emacs. However: 1) *Appearing* sparse doesn't mean much---Emacs 22's GTK interface 'looks' sparse as well, and sparse is the last word that comes to mind when I think of Emacs 2) I've *heard* good things about Komodo before from others---it might just be awesome Perhaps you could try the Eric IDE? I hear SPE is not in active dev.--- a pity to be sure, but I have used Eric before and found it pretty easy to use and featureful. -- Theerasak -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in >> the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse. >> >> How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or >> two days. > > It's entirely possible you could use a free IDE as well. (Just > throwing it out there.) > > -- Theerasak I have spend the past two years with eclipse/pydev ... a few issue are still troublesome to me (speed, search for definitions ... being a few of them) ... and until two days ago I had not even looked at Wing as I wrongly thought it was on Windoze-based. But I must must admit I am impressed - yet I feel it would be stupid to not look carefully at Komodo ... hence my questions. hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
On 10/13/06, hg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in > the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse. > > How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or > two days. It's entirely possible you could use a free IDE as well. (Just throwing it out there.) -- Theerasak -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the >> personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but >> the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. > > But that's really a good thing. > > -- Theerasak I'm really interested: my *small* company is ready to spend the ~300$ in the process, but Komodo looks _very_ sparse. How do you go about it? ... I have resources to look at it for one or two days. hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
Theerasak Photha wrote: > On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the >> personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but >> the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. > > But that's really a good thing. > > -- Theerasak Yeah, features are more important, and probably you can customize the look of the IDE anyway, so either one can look as full or as bare as you want (I assume). Perhaps I'll give the trials a try myself, just to see, although I know for sure I won't be buying the Pro version of Wing. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
On 10/13/06, John Salerno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the > personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but > the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. But that's really a good thing. -- Theerasak -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: wing ide vs. komodo?
John Salerno wrote: > Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them > compared to one another (if you've used both). > > Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a > glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't > even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have > doubts about it. > > Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the > personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but > the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. I'm testing them both now ... Wing IDE is in front (but I'm testing the pro version). hg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
wing ide vs. komodo?
Just curious what users of the two big commercial IDEs think of them compared to one another (if you've used both). Wing IDE looks a lot nicer and fuller featured in the screenshots, but a glance at the feature list shows that the "personal" version doesn't even support code folding! That's a little ridiculous and makes me have doubts about it. Komodo, on the other hand, seems to have more of the features that the personal version of Wing IDE lacks (call tips, class browser, etc.) but the look of it seems very sparse for some reason. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Using Komodo 3.5 - Setting breakpoints in multiple *.py files
jeem wrote: > I am using ActiveState Komodo 3.5 to work on a large python 2.4 > application with an extensive UI... I am attempting to debug the > application and am setting breakpoints in 4 different *.py files.. > Breakpoints in the main file are working OK, but any breakpoints in > imported files are not... The three imported files are open in Komodo > and are in the same local directory as the main file (in the > python24/Lib/site-packages tree)... The code sections I am trying to > debug are invoked by some UI events... When I start the debugging > section and navigate to the features I am trying to debug, the > breakpoint are ignored... I can execute a "Break now" command and the > IDE is smart enough to find and display imported *.py resources... but > normal breakpoints are ignored... It works for me in a trivial example: C:\trentm\tmp\foo>cat foo.py print "hi from foo" import bar bar.bar() print "bye from foo" C:\trentm\tmp\foo>cat bar.py def bar(): print "hi from bar.bar()" print "bye from bar.bar()" I set breakpoints on the "import bar" line in foo.py and on the 'print "hi...' line in "bar.py". Started debugging "foo.py" and the debugger breaks on both breakpoints. If you step into the "import" statements in your debug session, are the imported modules the ones you expect? I.e. in my example the breakpoint would not have worked if "bar.py" had been imported from another location on my sys.path. Note: this might be better discussed on the komodo-discuss mailing list. (http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/mysubs) Cheers, Trent -- Trent Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Using Komodo 3.5 - Setting breakpoints in multiple *.py files
I am using ActiveState Komodo 3.5 to work on a large python 2.4 application with an extensive UI... I am attempting to debug the application and am setting breakpoints in 4 different *.py files.. Breakpoints in the main file are working OK, but any breakpoints in imported files are not... The three imported files are open in Komodo and are in the same local directory as the main file (in the python24/Lib/site-packages tree)... The code sections I am trying to debug are invoked by some UI events... When I start the debugging section and navigate to the features I am trying to debug, the breakpoint are ignored... I can execute a "Break now" command and the IDE is smart enough to find and display imported *.py resources... but normal breakpoints are ignored... I am new to Komodo and Python, and the IDE debugging features are certainly not working as expected, based upon my experience with Visual Studio and JBuilder... I've searched the included Help system and so far haven't had any luck... Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help! Identical code doesn't work in Wing IDE but does in Komodo.
Not sure if this would cause it, but I also have both Wing and Komodo, and when I search for files named FeedParser, I get this: c:/Documents and Settings\Richard Dooling\Local Settings\Application Data\Wing IDE 2\cache\analysis\C\Python24\lib\email\FeedParser.py.ether c:/Program Files\ActiveState Komodo 3.5\lib\python\Lib\email\FeedParser.py c:/Python24\Lib\email\FeedParser.py Maybe you need to investigate and see if those versions are all the same? Then check and see which one is running at any given time? rick "My mother buried three husbands, and two of them were just napping." --Rita Rudner -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help! Identical code doesn't work in Wing IDE but does in Komodo.
On 20/04/2006 5:54 PM, fyleow wrote:
> I create a new Python file with the following using Wing IDE.
>
> import feedparser
> d = feedparser.parse("http://feedparser.org/docs/examples/atom10.xml";)
> print d.feed.title
>
> I get this error when I debug.
>
[snip]
>
> With the exact same line of code in Komodo I get the correct output
> which is "Sample Feed"
Two IDEs? Sounds like IDEitis to me. Presuming that you have a
command-line interpreter supplied with your OS: fire it up, type in
"python", type those 3 lines in, see what happens ... I'm betting that
Serge's supposition is correct.
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Re: Help! Identical code doesn't work in Wing IDE but does in Komodo.
fyleow wrote:
> I create a new Python file with the following using Wing IDE.
>
> import feedparser
> d = feedparser.parse("http://feedparser.org/docs/examples/atom10.xml";)
> print d.feed.title
>
> I get this error when I debug.
>
> AssertionError:
>
> Traceback (innermost last):
>
> File "c:\Documents and Settings\abc\Application Data\Wing IDE
> 2\untitled-1.py", line 1, in ?
> import feedparser
> File "c:\Documents and Settings\abc\Application Data\Wing IDE
> 2\untitled-1.py", line 2, in ?
> d =
> feedparser.parse("http://feedparser.org/docs/examples/atom10.xml";)
> File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 2611, in parse
> saxparser.parse(source)
[snip]
The traceback is wierd. It states that the first line of untitle-1.py
is calling the second line of the same file. That doesn't make sense.
> Any idea what's wrong?
Seems like it's an IDE specific bug.
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Re: Help! Identical code doesn't work in Wing IDE but does in Komodo.
> With the exact same line of code in Komodo I get the correct output > which is "Sample Feed" > > Any idea what's wrong? My guess would be different PYTHONPATHs. Try this on each: >>> import sys >>> print sys.path They might even be using different python versions - but both of these are just guesses. Luke -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Help! Identical code doesn't work in Wing IDE but does in Komodo.
I create a new Python file with the following using Wing IDE.
import feedparser
d = feedparser.parse("http://feedparser.org/docs/examples/atom10.xml";)
print d.feed.title
I get this error when I debug.
AssertionError:
Traceback (innermost last):
File "c:\Documents and Settings\abc\Application Data\Wing IDE
2\untitled-1.py", line 1, in ?
import feedparser
File "c:\Documents and Settings\abc\Application Data\Wing IDE
2\untitled-1.py", line 2, in ?
d =
feedparser.parse("http://feedparser.org/docs/examples/atom10.xml";)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 2611, in parse
saxparser.parse(source)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\xml\sax\expatreader.py", line 107, in parse
xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\xml\sax\xmlreader.py", line 123, in parse
self.feed(buffer)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\xml\sax\expatreader.py", line 207, in feed
self._parser.Parse(data, isFinal)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\xml\sax\expatreader.py", line 639, in EndElement
File "C:\Python24\Lib\xml\sax\expatreader.py", line 348, in
end_element_ns
self._cont_handler.endElementNS(pair, None)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 1403, in endElementNS
self.unknown_endtag(localname)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 476, in unknown_endtag
method()
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 1193, in _end_title
value = self.popContent('title')
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 700, in popContent
value = self.pop(tag)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 685, in pop
contentparams = copy.deepcopy(self.contentparams)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\copy.py", line 193, in deepcopy
rv = reductor(2)
File "C:\Python24\Lib\feedparser.py", line 233, in __getattr__
assert not key.startswith('_')
With the exact same line of code in Komodo I get the correct output
which is "Sample Feed"
Any idea what's wrong?
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Re: python crashes in Komodo
> any non-standard (i.e. non-bundled) C extensions ? No. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
