Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ben Finney bignose+hates-s...@benfinney.id.au wrote: rdmur...@bitdance.com writes: I don't even see Stephen Hansen's posts. My newsreader just shows the header and says [HTML part not displayed]. Likewise. Yeah, I know HTML is bad on newsgroups. I didn't realize that when I installed FireGPG to sign messages while in Gmail that it started handling my html/plain text content differently. Oops. That said: Is S/MIME / OpenPGP readable on these various clients? There's no HTML, the text body is just encoded in base64. I haven't actually subscribed to a usenet newsgroup in eons upon eons. If its not readable as S/MIME then I'll switch to inline PGP... that's just a slightly terrible solution for other places I have to talk and I'll have to take extra care to remember to manually check the settings based upon where I'm talking. I'm re-sending this same message as the OpenPGP S/MIME attachment format -- just so test if its actually readable by news clients in general. I have absolutely no idea. Not touched a news client in years and years, as I said. Sorry for the inconvenience. --Stephen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ben Finney bignose+hates-s...@benfinney.id.au wrote: rdmur...@bitdance.com writes: I don't even see Stephen Hansen's posts. My newsreader just shows the header and says [HTML part not displayed]. Likewise. Yeah, I know HTML is bad on newsgroups. I didn't realize that when I installed FireGPG to sign messages while in Gmail that it started handling my html/plain text content differently. Oops. That said: Is S/MIME / OpenPGP readable on these various clients? There's no HTML, the text body is just encoded in base64. I haven't actually subscribed to a usenet newsgroup in eons upon eons. If its not readable as S/MIME then I'll switch to inline PGP... that's just a slightly terrible solution for other places I have to talk and I'll have to take extra care to remember to manually check the settings based upon where I'm talking. I'm re-sending this same message as the OpenPGP S/MIME attachment format -- just so test if its actually readable by news clients in general. I have absolutely no idea. Not touched a news client in years and years, as I said. Sorry for the inconvenience. --Stephen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
Sorry to whine, but here's how this looks on slrn: On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 00:24:19 -0800 (PST), Stephen Hansen wrote: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) ---firegpg072eqfqovlg25y5x7pu7mz3 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 T24gU3VuLCBGZWIgMSwgMjAwOSBhdCA3OjQ3IFBNLCBCZW4gRmlubmV5IDxiaWdub3NlK2hhdGVz [many similarly informative lines omitted] cnJ5IGZvciB0aGUgaW5jb252ZW5pZW5jZS4gDQoNCi0tU3RlcGhlbg== ---firegpg072eqfqovlg25y5x7pu7mz3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc ---firegpg072eqfqovlg25y5x7pu7mz3-- -- To email me, substitute nowhere-spamcop, invalid-net. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
Stephen Hansen apt.shan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm re-sending this same message as the OpenPGP S/MIME attachment format -- just so test if its actually readable by news clients in general. I have absolutely no idea. Not touched a news client in years and years, as I said. It is readable in XNews, but only displays in a fixed pitch font and without colours to distinguish the quoted content. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Duncan Booth duncan.bo...@invalid.invalidwrote: Stephen Hansen apt.shan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm re-sending this same message as the OpenPGP S/MIME attachment format -- just so test if its actually readable by news clients in general. I have absolutely no idea. Not touched a news client in years and years, as I said. It is readable in XNews, but only displays in a fixed pitch font and without colours to distinguish the quoted content. Yeah, I gave up. I was hoping to find one common set of settings that worked in all contexts I use this email account for, but failed :) Oh well. Sorry for sending junk. :) And going off-topic here. Ahem. --S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
Stephen Hansen wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Ben Finney bignose+hates-s...@benfinney.id.au wrote: rdmur...@bitdance.com writes: I don't even see Stephen Hansen's posts. My newsreader just shows the header and says [HTML part not displayed]. Likewise. Yeah, I know HTML is bad on newsgroups. I didn't realize that when I installed FireGPG to sign messages while in Gmail that it started handling my html/plain text content differently. Oops. That said: Is S/MIME / OpenPGP readable on these various clients? There's no HTML, the text body is just encoded in base64. I haven't actually subscribed to a usenet newsgroup in eons upon eons. If its not readable as S/MIME then I'll switch to inline PGP... that's just a slightly terrible solution for other places I have to talk and I'll have to take extra care to remember to manually check the settings based upon where I'm talking. Or configure multiple personalities with the same email address but different settings, so all you have to do is switch personalities appropriately. I'm re-sending this same message as the OpenPGP S/MIME attachment format -- just so test if its actually readable by news clients in general. I have absolutely no idea. Not touched a news client in years and years, as I said. Sorry for the inconvenience. I run Thunderbird with the OpenPGP add-on, and I hadn't noticed anything at all strange about your posts :). regards Steve -- Steve Holden+1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:34:51 -0500 Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: Or configure multiple personalities with the same email address but different settings, so all you have to do is switch personalities appropriately. They have pills for that now. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
My client can handle your Mime and shows me the text part of the signed message. It's not as pretty as just seeing an unsigned text message, but that's a client problem, not yours :) I would like to think that all newsreader clients could handle mime at this point, but who knows. --RDM -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Membership of multiple items to a list
Dear all, I'd like to know how to elegantly check a list for the membership of any of its items to another list. Not caring for elegance, I would use the following code: blah = [1,2,3] yadda = [3,4,5,6] blah[0] or blah[1] or blah[2] in yadda Please tell me how to change the preceding code into something nicer where I don't have to keep extending the line based on the length of the first list. Cheers, Matt Dubins -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
inkhorn schrieb: Dear all, I'd like to know how to elegantly check a list for the membership of any of its items to another list. Not caring for elegance, I would use the following code: blah = [1,2,3] yadda = [3,4,5,6] blah[0] or blah[1] or blah[2] in yadda Please tell me how to change the preceding code into something nicer where I don't have to keep extending the line based on the length of the first list. You can and should use Python's set type for membership testing. blah = set([1,2,3]) yadda = set([3,4,5,6]) blah.issubset(yadda) False blah.difference(yadda) set([1, 2]) blah.symmetric_difference(yadda) set([1, 2, 4, 5, 6]) Christian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
I'd like to know how to elegantly check a list for the membership of any of its items to another list. Not caring for elegance, I would use the following code: That's one of the useful properties of sets: a = [1,2,3] b = [3,4,5,6] set(a) set(b)set([3]) set(a).intersection(b)set([3]) That's two spellings of the same thing. As for testing: an empty set like an empty list will return false, so "if set(a) set(b):" will be true or false based on if there's any commonalities between the two lists.--Stephen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
inkhorn matt.dub...@sympatico.ca writes: blah = [1,2,3] yadda = [3,4,5,6] blah[0] or blah[1] or blah[2] in yadda if set(blah) set(yadda): print yes -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
Wow thanks for the lightning fast reply! This does exactly the right job. Matt On Feb 1, 3:01 pm, Stephen Hansen apt.shan...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to know how to elegantly check a list for the membership of any of its items to another list. Not caring for elegance, I would use the following code: That's one of the useful properties of sets: a = [1,2,3] b = [3,4,5,6] set(a) set(b) set([3]) set(a).intersection(b) set([3]) That's two spellings of the same thing. As for testing: an empty set like an empty list will return false, so if set(a) set(b): will be true or false based on if there's any commonalities between the two lists. --Stephen signature.asc 1KViewDownload -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:01:11 -0800, Stephen Hansen wrote: brdiv class=gmail_quoteblockquote class=gmail_quote style=border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;br I'd like to know how to elegantly check a list for the membership ofbr any of its items to another list. nbsp;Not caring for elegance, I wouldbr use the following code:br /blockquotedivbrThat's one of the useful properties of sets:brbrgt;gt;gt; a = [1,2,3]brgt;gt;gt; b = [3,4,5,6]brgt;gt;gt; set(a) amp; set(b)brset([3])brgt;gt;gt; set(a).intersection(b)brset([3])br brThat's two spellings of the same thing. As for testing: an empty set like an empty list will return false, so if set(a) amp; set(b): will be true or false based on if there's any commonalities between the two lists.brbr--Stephen/div/divbr Stephen, do you see the utter mess your posts look like to some others? Please ensure you send plain text messages to Usenet, not HTML. If you absolutely can't avoid using an insecure and bloated page layout language instead of text, please ensure that your News or mail client is set to send plain text as well as HTML. If your news/mail client doesn't follow Usenet standards, then (1) change the application you use to one that does; or (2) complain to the vendor until they fix their product. Thank you, -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
Quoth Steven D'Aprano ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au: On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:01:11 -0800, Stephen Hansen wrote: brdiv class=gmail_quoteblockquote class=gmail_quote style=border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;br I'd like to know how to elegantly check a list for the membership ofbr any of its items to another list. nbsp;Not caring for elegance, I wouldbr use the following code:br /blockquotedivbrThat's one of the useful properties of sets:brbrgt;gt;gt; a = [1,2,3]brgt;gt;gt; b = [3,4,5,6]brgt;gt;gt; set(a) amp; set(b)brset([3])brgt;gt;gt; set(a).intersection(b)brset([3])br brThat's two spellings of the same thing. As for testing: an empty set like an empty list will return false, so if set(a) amp; set(b): will be true or false based on if there's any commonalities between the two lists.brbr--Stephen/div/divbr Stephen, do you see the utter mess your posts look like to some others? I don't even see Stephen Hansen's posts. My newsreader just shows the header and says [HTML part not displayed]. --RDM -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
Stephen, do you see the utter mess your posts look like to some others? Whoops, I was experimenting with a new Firefox add-on that fiddled with Gmail, and hadn't noticed it changed my output format to HTML out from under me. Sorry! --S -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Membership of multiple items to a list
rdmur...@bitdance.com writes: I don't even see Stephen Hansen's posts. My newsreader just shows the header and says [HTML part not displayed]. Likewise. Note to people who want to communicate in online fora: Set your client to generate a “text/plain” body only. HTML is either irrelevant to your message (so don't generate it), or will result in your message not even being seen at all by some readers (as in this case). -- \“If it ain't bust don't fix it is a very sound principle and | `\ remains so despite the fact that I have slavishly ignored it | _o__) all my life.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
