New Python book, Learn Python Quickly
Hi All, You may be interested in my latest book Learn Python Quickly. It's a Kindle book but is specifically designed to be used with any of the free-to-download Kindle Reading Apps. What's special about the book is its comprehensive glossary and the numerous in-text internal hyperlinks to topics in the glossary, allowing the reader to quickly jump to glossary topics to clarify the terms used in the text. The book can be followed by those with zero prior knowledge of the language and very little general language experience, but leads the reader in easy stages to quite sophisticated coding skills including classes and Graphical User Interface (GUI) programming. There are numerous graded exercises, all with sample answers at the end of the book. There is also a companion web site from which those programs can be freely copied and used immediately in Python's IDLE interface. (This overcomes the copying restriction imposed on Kindle books.) The programs and lots of Information about the book (including sample chapters and an extract from the glossary) can be found on www.learnpythonquickly.com and the book itself is available from Amazon, from where you can download the reading apps and then download a further sample of the book onto those apps. I do hope you find this of interest. Kind regards, John Rowland -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
New Python book, Learn Python Quickly
Hi All, You may be interested in my latest book Learn Python Quickly. It's a Kindle book but is specifically designed to be used with any of the free-to-download Kindle Reading Apps. What's special about the book is its comprehensive glossary and the numerous in-text internal hyperlinks to topics in the glossary, allowing the reader to quickly jump to glossary topics to clarify the terms used in the text. The book can be followed by those with zero prior knowledge of the language and very little general language experience, but leads the reader in easy stages to quite sophisticated coding skills including classes and Graphical User Interface (GUI) programming. There are numerous graded exercises, all with sample answers at the end of the book. There is also a companion web site from which those programs can be freely copied and used immediately in Python's IDLE interface. (This overcomes the copying restriction imposed on Kindle books.) The programs and lots of Information about the book (including sample chapters and an extract from the glossary) can be found on www.learnpythonquickly.com and the book itself is available from Amazon, from where you can download the reading apps and then download a further sample of the book onto those apps. I do hope you find this of interest. Kind regards, John Rowland -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hijack! Different book: (was: Opinions about this new Python book?
On 15 Aug, 19:52, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully it isn't quite as annoying as some of what I've found in the Turbogears book that recently arrived from Amazon. (Rapid Web Applications with TurboGears) Is this the book that came out before TurboGears even reached 1.0, probably having diminished relevance now that there are 1.1 and 2.0 releases being worked on? I'm very much in favour of book availability, and I pity the people writing Python books given continuous changes to the language and the associated recommended development practices as new features go in, but tracking a target prior to any kind of stable release seems a bit too ambitious, especially for a book in print. Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hijack! Different book: (was: Opinions about this new Python book?
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 04:21 -0700, Paul Boddie wrote: [...] I pity the people writing Python books given continuous changes to the language and the associated recommended development practices as new features go in, but tracking a target prior to any kind of stable release seems a bit too ambitious, especially for a book in print. The book was co-authored by Kevin Dangoor, who is the principal developer of TurboGears. He probably had a pretty good idea of what the stable release was going to look like. -- Carsten Haese http://informixdb.sourceforge.net -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
On Aug 14, 1:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 12:46 pm, Shawn Milochik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, please post back to the list. I saw this book on Amazon, but there's no table of contents listed, nor is there one on the publisher's site. Thanks, Shawn On 8/14/07, James Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got to say that the best python book i bought was Core Python Programming (2nd) by Wesly Chun! Aside for all the spelling mistakes and syntax errors that there are i feel that the book really explained the language well for someone coming from another programming language! On 8/14/07, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:57 AM 8/14/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 7:05 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores I just got this book over the weekend. I'll start reading/skimming through it this week and hopefully remember to get back to you. Thanks! By the way, why do you want to know? If the experts like it, I'll buy it. Dick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://www.goldwatches.com/ http://www.jewelerslounge.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Please read:http://milocast.com/2007/07/31/this-i-believe/ Here's an abbreviated Table of Contents...just chapter titles. The book's table of contents also lists section headers. Chapter 1: About Python Chapter 2: Python Language Overview Chapter 3: Tools Chapter 4: Data Types Chapter 5: Control Flow Chapter 6: Input Output Chapter 7: Functions Modules Chapter 8: Exception Handling Chapter 9: Object-Oriented Programming Chapter 10: Classes and Objects in Python Chapter 11: The Python Library Chapter 12: The GUI - Tkinter Chapter 13: The Web Server - Apache Chapter 14: Working with Databases Chapter 15: Putting It All Together Chapter 16: Python and Graphics Mike More on the subject...the writer is very conversational in tone and it makes for a light read in the first 1 1/2 chapters that I've completed. I've noticed a couple of sentence errors, but nothing in the code. He disses lambdas, which I haven't used for anything either. But I have seen good uses for them (particularly in Tkinter callbacks), although they don't seem to be as readable or usable as the rest of Python. For some reason, the author makes the claim that the term Predicate is bandied about quite a bit in the literature of Python. I have 17 or so Python books and I don't think I've ever seen this used in conjunction with Python...or in any of the docs I've skimmed. What the!? I'll keep you'all posted. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
On 2007-08-15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, the author makes the claim that the term Predicate is bandied about quite a bit in the literature of Python. I have 17 or so Python books and I don't think I've ever seen this used in conjunction with Python...or in any of the docs I've skimmed. What the!? The document searching facility reveals that the term is bandied about in five places in the standard documentation. These uses seem approriate and uncontroversial to me. These document functions accepting predicates as aruments: 6.5.1 Itertools functions 6.5.3 Recipes 11.47 Creating a new Distutils command 26.10.1 Types and members The following provides a few predicate functions (weird! I'd have never thought to look there for, e.g., ismodule): 6.7 operator -- Standard operators as functions -- Neil Cerutti -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-08-15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some reason, the author makes the claim that the term Predicate is bandied about quite a bit in the literature of Python. I have 17 or so Python books and I don't think I've ever seen this used in conjunction with Python...or in any of the docs I've skimmed. What the!? The document searching facility reveals that the term is bandied about in five places in the standard documentation. These uses seem approriate and uncontroversial to me. These document functions accepting predicates as aruments: 6.5.1 Itertools functions 6.5.3 Recipes 11.47 Creating a new Distutils command 26.10.1 Types and members The following provides a few predicate functions (weird! I'd have never thought to look there for, e.g., ismodule): 6.7 operator -- Standard operators as functions Module inspect also provides useful predicates (though I don't remember if its docs CALL them predicates;-). Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Hijack! Different book: (was: Opinions about this new Python book?
On Aug 15, 12:52 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:32:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: More on the subject...the writer is very conversational in tone and it makes for a light read in the first 1 1/2 chapters that I've completed. I've noticed a couple of sentence errors, but nothing in the code. Hopefully it isn't quite as annoying as some of what I've found in the Turbogears book that recently arrived from Amazon. (Rapid Web Applications with TurboGears) I've so far found a couple of pages where editing rewrites of paragraphs left redundancies. Example -- section 4.3: second paragraph ... We set up some variables, and then create a new /Bookmark/ object with the exact same syntax we used earlier in the chapter when we created our first bookmark through /tg-admin shell/. sentence/sample code/next paragraph This method sets up a few variables, and then creates a new /Bookmark/ object using the exact same syntax we used earlier in the chapter when we created out first bookmark through /tg-admin shell/. ... That's the most blatant, so far, but I've found a few other examples where a paragraph below a code sample basically restates the paragraph above it; and the paragraph above seems confusing because it reads as if it is commenting on prior material, not following material. It's as if the book had been first written using, say, describe, show code, then edited by someone favoring show code, explain style... And the two versions were then merged by a third person... Hmmm, there are three authors... -- WulfraedDennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ (Bestiaria Support Staff: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) HTTP://www.bestiaria.com/ I have this book, but I haven't read it. However, I think the user reviews on Amazon complained quite a bit about the TurboGears book's writing and how it was pretty lousy. Even the code was broken. I look forward to seeing just how truly awful it is. As for this book, Python Power!, I haven't noticed anything like what you describe. An example issue I've noticed is stuff like this sentence: There are a few catches and caveats work mentioning, however Obviously, work should be worth. There are instances like that where a real editor should have caught it, but a Word Processor wouldn't. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Opinions about this new Python book?
I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
On Aug 14, 7:05 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores I just got this book over the weekend. I'll start reading/skimming through it this week and hopefully remember to get back to you. By the way, why do you want to know? Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
At 05:57 AM 8/14/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 7:05 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores I just got this book over the weekend. I'll start reading/skimming through it this week and hopefully remember to get back to you. Thanks! By the way, why do you want to know? If the experts like it, I'll buy it. Dick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
i got to say that the best python book i bought was Core Python Programming (2nd) by Wesly Chun! Aside for all the spelling mistakes and syntax errors that there are i feel that the book really explained the language well for someone coming from another programming language! On 8/14/07, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:57 AM 8/14/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 7:05 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores I just got this book over the weekend. I'll start reading/skimming through it this week and hopefully remember to get back to you. Thanks! By the way, why do you want to know? If the experts like it, I'll buy it. Dick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://www.goldwatches.com/ http://www.jewelerslounge.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
Yes, please post back to the list. I saw this book on Amazon, but there's no table of contents listed, nor is there one on the publisher's site. Thanks, Shawn On 8/14/07, James Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got to say that the best python book i bought was Core Python Programming (2nd) by Wesly Chun! Aside for all the spelling mistakes and syntax errors that there are i feel that the book really explained the language well for someone coming from another programming language! On 8/14/07, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:57 AM 8/14/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 7:05 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores I just got this book over the weekend. I'll start reading/skimming through it this week and hopefully remember to get back to you. Thanks! By the way, why do you want to know? If the experts like it, I'll buy it. Dick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://www.goldwatches.com/ http://www.jewelerslounge.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Please read: http://milocast.com/2007/07/31/this-i-believe/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Opinions about this new Python book?
On Aug 14, 12:46 pm, Shawn Milochik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, please post back to the list. I saw this book on Amazon, but there's no table of contents listed, nor is there one on the publisher's site. Thanks, Shawn On 8/14/07, James Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i got to say that the best python book i bought was Core Python Programming (2nd) by Wesly Chun! Aside for all the spelling mistakes and syntax errors that there are i feel that the book really explained the language well for someone coming from another programming language! On 8/14/07, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:57 AM 8/14/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 7:05 am, Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd appreciate opinions about this new Python book. Title: Python Power!: The Comprehensive Guide Author: Matt Telles Publisher: Course Technology Pub. Date: Jul 27, 2007 Edition: 1st edition Binding: Paperback Pages: 508 ISBN: 1598631586 List Price: 34.99 USD The book on the publisher's website: http://tinyurl.com/2dkhzg And at BestBookDeal.com: http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/1598631586 Thanks, Dick Moores I just got this book over the weekend. I'll start reading/skimming through it this week and hopefully remember to get back to you. Thanks! By the way, why do you want to know? If the experts like it, I'll buy it. Dick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://www.goldwatches.com/ http://www.jewelerslounge.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Please read:http://milocast.com/2007/07/31/this-i-believe/ Here's an abbreviated Table of Contents...just chapter titles. The book's table of contents also lists section headers. Chapter 1: About Python Chapter 2: Python Language Overview Chapter 3: Tools Chapter 4: Data Types Chapter 5: Control Flow Chapter 6: Input Output Chapter 7: Functions Modules Chapter 8: Exception Handling Chapter 9: Object-Oriented Programming Chapter 10: Classes and Objects in Python Chapter 11: The Python Library Chapter 12: The GUI - Tkinter Chapter 13: The Web Server - Apache Chapter 14: Working with Databases Chapter 15: Putting It All Together Chapter 16: Python and Graphics Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
hrh1818 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This book is not a new book. It is an updated version of Magnus's 2002 Practical Python book. Then it's probably a good book, because Practical Python sure was! Alex -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
This book is not a new book. It is an updated version of Magnus's 2002 Practical Python book. Dick Moores wrote: (Sorry, my previous post should not have had Tutor in the subject header.) Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
The title is very misleading. The book is a nice introduction to Python, covers the high lights of Python without getting bogged down in detail and the author has a lively writing style. But the book has very litle to entice professional programmers. Dick Moores wrote: (Sorry, my previous post should not have had Tutor in the subject header.) Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
I had the opportunity to glance through the book in Borders yesterday. On the whole, I think it is well covered and is very readable. Perhaps I was looking for a specific aspect, and I find that threads did not get enough attention. Looking at the index pages, the topics on threads (about 4-5 pages) is mainly found in the context of GUI programming. maurice Dick Moores wrote: (Sorry, my previous post should not have had Tutor in the subject header.) Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
Maurice LING wrote: I had the opportunity to glance through the book in Borders yesterday. On the whole, I think it is well covered and is very readable. Perhaps I was looking for a specific aspect, and I find that threads did not get enough attention. Looking at the index pages, the topics on threads (about 4-5 pages) is mainly found in the context of GUI programming. maurice I don't have my hard copy of the book, but from memory and grepping over the soft copy, you appear to be correct. Remember, though, that this is a beginning book on Python and *I* would consider threading a more advanced topic. I think putting threading in the context of GUI programming is just about right for an intro book. - jmj -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
Jeremy Jones wrote (about Magnus Lie Hetland's _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_): ... this would probably also be an excellent educational resource for teachers in a classroom setting teaching students Python. I would be interested to hear some teachers' opinion on that to see if that's a correct assessment You could ask over on comp.lang.python.education (on Gmane as comp.python.education). -- -Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could ask over on comp.lang.python.education comp.lang.python.education is a rogue newsgroup; it won't appear on many newsservers. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ The way to build large Python applications is to componentize and loosely-couple the hell out of everything. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[Tutor] New Python book
Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
New Python book
(Sorry, my previous post should not have had Tutor in the subject header.) Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
Dick Moores wrote: (Sorry, my previous post should not have had Tutor in the subject header.) Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know what the experts think, but I thought it was excellent. I had the pleasure of serving as tech editor/reviewer for this book. My dead tree version hasn't arrived yet, but should be on its way. The style is extremely readable, not a hint of dryness in it at all. The concepts are clearly and thoroughly presented. This is an excellent resource for someone starting Python, but definitely useful for those already familiar with Python. One thing that kept coming to mind as I was reading it, especially toward the end during the projects at the end, was that this would probably also be an excellent educational resource for teachers in a classroom setting teaching students Python. I would be interested to hear some teachers' opinion on that to see if that's a correct assessment. Anyway, I highly recommend this book. - jmj -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New Python book
Dick Moores wrote: Magnus Lie Hetland's new book, _Beginning Python: From Novice to Professional_ was published by Apress on Sept. 26 (in the U.S.). My copy arrived in the mail a couple of days ago. Very much worth a look, IMHO. But what do the experts here think? http://www.bestbookdeal.com/book/compare/159059519X Dick Moores [EMAIL PROTECTED] Along the same line what do the experts think of the new Python book published by Wrox, titled Beginnig Python with Peter Norton as the lead author? I was disappointed in the introductory material presented in the first 1/3 of the book but the application information presented in the last 2/3 of the book says to me this book is not a beginning python book. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
