Re: OT: citizens and countries - was Re: v3.5.1 - msi download

2015-12-23 Thread Gregory Ewing

Michael Torrie wrote:

A country in which citizens only expect things from the country and
never think about their ability to change and benefit the country is a
week country indeed.

  

Yep, definitely won't last more than 7 days. :-)

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Re: OT: citizens and countries - was Re: v3.5.1 - msi download

2015-12-23 Thread jfong
Michael Torrie at 2015/12/23  UTC+8 12:22:23PM wrote:
> In the American way of thinking, the country *is* the people.  So it was
> neither a lie nor a bad thing that Kennedy proclaimed.  Maybe this is
> not true for other countries, but I think most Americans would feel it
> is true for their country.  And indeed the sentiment that Kennedy
> expressed resonates deeply with many/most Americans. A country is only
> made great by citizens willing to do many things for the good of the
> country and their fellow citizens.

I don't think any country can be "great" if it can't even take care of its own 
people well. American can not be great because of there are millions of 
citizens has no enough food, health cares and living on the street, at the same 
time this country spend billions of dollars on bombing other country's people.

This situation is painful to human mind and it was supposed to be solved by the 
country leaders. But politicians are incapable of doing anything except been 
good on spreading glorious words and sentences. As an anaesthetic to divert 
people from this incapability, these words also make some Americans happy to 
ignore the facts and continuously to believe that American is still a great 
country.
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OT: citizens and countries - was Re: v3.5.1 - msi download

2015-12-22 Thread Michael Torrie
On 12/22/2015 07:06 PM, jf...@ms4.hinet.net wrote:
> Mark Lawrence at 2015/12/21 UTC+8 8:50:00PM wrote:
>> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
>> what you can do for our language.
> 
> When I saw this sentence, I can't resist to think of the famous lie created 
> by president John kennedy: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask 
> what you can do for your country".
> 
> A COUNTRY WAS BUILT TO SERVE THE PEOPLE!!!
> 
> Do you think people are so boring that they have to build a country to serve 
> to?

In the American way of thinking, the country *is* the people.  So it was
neither a lie nor a bad thing that Kennedy proclaimed.  Maybe this is
not true for other countries, but I think most Americans would feel it
is true for their country.  And indeed the sentiment that Kennedy
expressed resonates deeply with many/most Americans. A country is only
made great by citizens willing to do many things for the good of the
country and their fellow citizens.

A country in which citizens only expect things from the country and
never think about their ability to change and benefit the country is a
week country indeed.

I say this as a someone not from the US.

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