Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On 20 mar, 11:38, Phil Thompson p...@riverbankcomputing.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:29:35 -0700 (PDT), jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 10:30, Phil Thompson p...@riverbankcomputing.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:09:06 -0700 (PDT), jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 01:12, D. Xenakis gouzouna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? Or maybe both? Any chance one of them is more/less bug-crashy than the other? I know both are availiable on the website but just asking.. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. I have zero expirience on PyQt so either way, everything is going to be new to me, so i dont care that much about the learning curve diference between new and old PyQt - Qt version. I did not find any installer so i guess i should customly do everything. Any guide for this plz? Id also like to ask.. Commercial licence of PyQt can only be bought on riverbank's website? I think i noticed somewhere an other reseller cheaper one or maybe i didnt know what the hell i was reading :). Maybe something about Qt and not PyQt. Please help this noob, Regards Short answer without explanation. It does not work. jmf Well it works for me. Care to elaborate? Phil No problem. Yesterday, I downloaded PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x32-2.exe and installed it on my Windows 7 Pro box after having removed a previous version. No problem with the installation. I quickly tested it with one of my interactive Python interpreters and got an error from PyQt4 import QtGui, QtCore saying, that the DLL cannot be found. Something similar to what Detlev Offenbach reported on the PyQt mailing list. Although, I'm not using Qsci. Strangely, I had not problem (if I recall correctly) with a very basic application (QMainWindow + QLineEdit). I had no problem with the demo (I only lauched it). I did not spend to much time in investigating further. It's the first time I see such an error; usually, no problem. The only time that I've seen a problem like that is when running from a shell that was started before running the PyQt installer (ie. one with an out of date PATH). Phil -- The PATH could be the cause. I stupidly forgot to check it before removing PyQt... I repeated the experiment (app == eta26.py). With and without PyQt in the system PATH. (Btw, why is it necessary?) D:\jm\jmpy\eta\eta26c:\python32\python eta26.py PyQt: 4.8.6, Qt: 4.7.4 Python 3.2.3 No problem. D:\jm\jmpy\eta\eta26c:\python33\python eta26.py Traceback (most recent call last): File eta26.py, line 32, in module from PyQt4 import QtGui, QtCore ImportError: DLL load failed: Le module spécifié est introuvable. (Translation: The specified module can no be found.) D:\jm\jmpy\eta\eta26c:\python33\python eta26.py PyQt: 4.10, Qt: 4.8.4 Python 3.3.0 No problem. No idea. It is mysterious for me. eta26 is only importing QtGui and QtCore. It however uses a sophisticated widget like QPlainTextEdit. jmf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On 20 mar, 11:29, jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 10:30, Phil Thompson p...@riverbankcomputing.com wrote: - Strangely, I had not problem (if I recall correctly) with a very basic application (QMainWindow + QLineEdit). ADDENDUM, CORRECTION It fails too. I forgot to rename PySide -- PyQt4 ! I tried to collect other experiences via Google. No luck. jmf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
Τη Τετάρτη, 20 Μαρτίου 2013 2:55:22 π.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Terry Reedy έγραψε: On 3/19/2013 8:12 PM, D. Xenakis wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? I am rather sure you should match your Python installation. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. If the PyQT author(s) say nothing about Win8, I would presume that they have not tested it. Do you really want to be a guinea pig? I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. Does PyQT 'say' that it works with QT5? If so, try it. -- Terry Jan Reedy http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/news Yes from their news Yes i'll better stay same version as python. Im just asking as my new laptop has win8 on that and even though i got a linux partition on that, id rather not install a win7 partition too :D. I'll give it a try what the hek. maybe there is a win7 compability mode or win7image option inside win 7 anyway. I know i cant expect a guide how to as everything is quite new here, but .. im just searching for some guidelines here. I have download and installed already PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x32-2.exe Windows 32 bit installer out from this website http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/download , in my start menu there is a new folder named PyQt GPL v4.10 for Python v3.3 (x32) but when i run Designer and go to about tab it only says: Qt Assistant Version 5.0.1 Copyright (C) 2012 Digia Plc and/or its subsidiary(-ies). Would that be normal? Shouldn't i also see somewhere anything about PyQt.. :P And last but not least.. ive noticed in the Riverbank's website this notice Before you can build PyQt you must have already built and installed SIP I havent done that.. What exactly will happend now, that i have not installed that yet. What would the conflict be (im asking more so that i can understand how this helps). Thx 4 your time guys just by reading this! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On 20 mar, 01:12, D. Xenakis gouzouna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? Or maybe both? Any chance one of them is more/less bug-crashy than the other? I know both are availiable on the website but just asking.. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. I have zero expirience on PyQt so either way, everything is going to be new to me, so i dont care that much about the learning curve diference between new and old PyQt - Qt version. I did not find any installer so i guess i should customly do everything. Any guide for this plz? Id also like to ask.. Commercial licence of PyQt can only be bought on riverbank's website? I think i noticed somewhere an other reseller cheaper one or maybe i didnt know what the hell i was reading :). Maybe something about Qt and not PyQt. Please help this noob, Regards Short answer without explanation. It does not work. jmf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:09:06 -0700 (PDT), jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 01:12, D. Xenakis gouzouna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? Or maybe both? Any chance one of them is more/less bug-crashy than the other? I know both are availiable on the website but just asking.. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. I have zero expirience on PyQt so either way, everything is going to be new to me, so i dont care that much about the learning curve diference between new and old PyQt - Qt version. I did not find any installer so i guess i should customly do everything. Any guide for this plz? Id also like to ask.. Commercial licence of PyQt can only be bought on riverbank's website? I think i noticed somewhere an other reseller cheaper one or maybe i didnt know what the hell i was reading :). Maybe something about Qt and not PyQt. Please help this noob, Regards Short answer without explanation. It does not work. jmf Well it works for me. Care to elaborate? Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On 20 mar, 10:30, Phil Thompson p...@riverbankcomputing.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:09:06 -0700 (PDT), jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 01:12, D. Xenakis gouzouna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? Or maybe both? Any chance one of them is more/less bug-crashy than the other? I know both are availiable on the website but just asking.. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. I have zero expirience on PyQt so either way, everything is going to be new to me, so i dont care that much about the learning curve diference between new and old PyQt - Qt version. I did not find any installer so i guess i should customly do everything. Any guide for this plz? Id also like to ask.. Commercial licence of PyQt can only be bought on riverbank's website? I think i noticed somewhere an other reseller cheaper one or maybe i didnt know what the hell i was reading :). Maybe something about Qt and not PyQt. Please help this noob, Regards Short answer without explanation. It does not work. jmf Well it works for me. Care to elaborate? Phil No problem. Yesterday, I downloaded PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x32-2.exe and installed it on my Windows 7 Pro box after having removed a previous version. No problem with the installation. I quickly tested it with one of my interactive Python interpreters and got an error from PyQt4 import QtGui, QtCore saying, that the DLL cannot be found. Something similar to what Detlev Offenbach reported on the PyQt mailing list. Although, I'm not using Qsci. Strangely, I had not problem (if I recall correctly) with a very basic application (QMainWindow + QLineEdit). I had no problem with the demo (I only lauched it). I did not spend to much time in investigating further. It's the first time I see such an error; usually, no problem. jmf -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 03:29:35 -0700 (PDT), jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 10:30, Phil Thompson p...@riverbankcomputing.com wrote: On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 02:09:06 -0700 (PDT), jmfauth wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 mar, 01:12, D. Xenakis gouzouna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? Or maybe both? Any chance one of them is more/less bug-crashy than the other? I know both are availiable on the website but just asking.. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. I have zero expirience on PyQt so either way, everything is going to be new to me, so i dont care that much about the learning curve diference between new and old PyQt - Qt version. I did not find any installer so i guess i should customly do everything. Any guide for this plz? Id also like to ask.. Commercial licence of PyQt can only be bought on riverbank's website? I think i noticed somewhere an other reseller cheaper one or maybe i didnt know what the hell i was reading :). Maybe something about Qt and not PyQt. Please help this noob, Regards Short answer without explanation. It does not work. jmf Well it works for me. Care to elaborate? Phil No problem. Yesterday, I downloaded PyQt4-4.10-gpl-Py3.3-Qt5.0.1-x32-2.exe and installed it on my Windows 7 Pro box after having removed a previous version. No problem with the installation. I quickly tested it with one of my interactive Python interpreters and got an error from PyQt4 import QtGui, QtCore saying, that the DLL cannot be found. Something similar to what Detlev Offenbach reported on the PyQt mailing list. Although, I'm not using Qsci. Strangely, I had not problem (if I recall correctly) with a very basic application (QMainWindow + QLineEdit). I had no problem with the demo (I only lauched it). I did not spend to much time in investigating further. It's the first time I see such an error; usually, no problem. The only time that I've seen a problem like that is when running from a shell that was started before running the PyQt installer (ie. one with an out of date PATH). Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? Or maybe both? Any chance one of them is more/less bug-crashy than the other? I know both are availiable on the website but just asking.. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. I have zero expirience on PyQt so either way, everything is going to be new to me, so i dont care that much about the learning curve diference between new and old PyQt - Qt version. I did not find any installer so i guess i should customly do everything. Any guide for this plz? Id also like to ask.. Commercial licence of PyQt can only be bought on riverbank's website? I think i noticed somewhere an other reseller cheaper one or maybe i didnt know what the hell i was reading :). Maybe something about Qt and not PyQt. Please help this noob, Regards -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Help. HOW TO guide for PyQt installation
On 3/19/2013 8:12 PM, D. Xenakis wrote: Hi there, Im searching for an installation guide for PyQt toolkit. To be honest im very confused about what steps should i follow for a complete and clean installation. Should i better choose to install the 32bit or the 64bit windows version? I am rather sure you should match your Python installation. If i installed this package on windows 8, should i have any problems? From what i read PyQt supports only xp and win7. If the PyQT author(s) say nothing about Win8, I would presume that they have not tested it. Do you really want to be a guinea pig? I was thinking about installing the newer version of PyQt along with the QT5. Does PyQT 'say' that it works with QT5? If so, try it. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQt Installation Problem on Windows
On Wednesday 24 November 2010, 23:03:14 Saul Spatz wrote: Hi, I've been trying to install PyQt on Windows XP Pro so that I can try out eric ide. I used the binary windows installer for PyQt. I can run eric as administrator, but not with my ordinary user account. By running eric.bat with the --debug flag, I found that he crux of the problem is that if I type import PyQt4 in the python shell, it works for both users, but if I type import PyQt4.QtCore it works for the administrator, but the non-privileged account gets the message ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found. My WinXP installations are always a bit lacking, since I do work 97% of my time in Linux (and 2% on MacOSX), but Python 2.6.6 and PyQt 4.7.7 do work fine here as a user win XP SP3/i586. Things like what you describe usually point to broken installations (remaining manual build artefacts, unfinished installs, incomplete deinstallations, ...). Just uninstall Python and PyQt, remove everything below your Python base path, and start over (a registry check/cleanup might be worth, too). In the file the file pyqtconfig.py from Python26\Lib\site-packages \PyQt4 I have the line 'pyqt_config_args': '--confirm-license -b C:\\Python26\\Lib\\site- packages\\PyQt4\\bin', I checked with a friend who uses eric, and his file does not have the --confirm-license parameter. As far as we can tell, we followed the same installation procedures. This is unrelated, since it is only a detail in the build process, but points to differing versions. By the way, I have tried this with python 3.1 on the same machine with similar results. I've blown a whole day playing with this, so I'd really appreciate any help you can give me. Pete -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PyQt Installation Problem on Windows
Hi, I've been trying to install PyQt on Windows XP Pro so that I can try out eric ide. I used the binary windows installer for PyQt. I can run eric as administrator, but not with my ordinary user account. By running eric.bat with the --debug flag, I found that he crux of the problem is that if I type import PyQt4 in the python shell, it works for both users, but if I type import PyQt4.QtCore it works for the administrator, but the non-privileged account gets the message ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found. In the file the file pyqtconfig.py from Python26\Lib\site-packages \PyQt4 I have the line 'pyqt_config_args': '--confirm-license -b C:\\Python26\\Lib\\site- packages\\PyQt4\\bin', I checked with a friend who uses eric, and his file does not have the --confirm-license parameter. As far as we can tell, we followed the same installation procedures. By the way, I have tried this with python 3.1 on the same machine with similar results. I've blown a whole day playing with this, so I'd really appreciate any help you can give me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
On Sunday 16 July 2006 1:09 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: For Qt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/windows For PyQt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php Ah thanks, I'm a dork. Why didn't I see that before mutter? Waitaminute, didn't you write it? Oh dear. I've got another problem, I'm afraid - I've installed Qt 4.1.4 and PyQt GPL v4.0 over Python 2.4, and the demos for both run happily enough, but when I try to run the first example (in IDLE) from Boudewijn Rempt's GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition I just get ImportError: No module named qt. Is there something I need to add to my sys.path here? Sorry to bother you with the newbie questions. Boudewijn's book describes Qt/PyQt v3. Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Boddie wrote: However, you will have difficulty using the examples in that book because it was written for PyQt3. Ah yes, it doesn't recognise QApplication now. Never mind. QApplication is still there. You can access it via the Qt module and create an application object in the following way: import sys from PyQt4 import Qt app = Qt.QApplication(sys.argv) Work is underway to port the book to PyQt4, but it will take some time. (You can help with this and learn about PyQt4 at the same time, if you want.) Er...you might be overestimating my potential unless there's some *really* entry-level material to be dealt with there. Though they do say it's a good way to learn. Is there a forum? Yes, it's at http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/mailman/listinfo/pykde There's plenty of learning material for Qt 4; the official documentation at http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1 contains examples and overviews that are readable if you already know C++. One of the reasons I chose Python was so I wouldn't have to, alas. Much of the example code for Qt is readable even if you only know Python. Some of the main differences between Qt and PyQt are described in this document: http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/Docs/PyQt4/pyqt4ref.html Good luck! David -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PyQT installation /configuration
Hi there. I've been trying to get PyQT working on W2K, but have not yet found a sufficiently detailed walk-through for my somewhat command-line-challenged sensibilities. I did find this page: http://www.diotavelli.net/PyQtWiki/GPLPyQtWindows , but I'm not sure about installing the whole of Visual Studio .NET as a prerequisite. Can anyone tell me if the passing of the years has made this process any more approachable? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
On Saturday 15 July 2006 9:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I've been trying to get PyQT working on W2K, but have not yet found a sufficiently detailed walk-through for my somewhat command-line-challenged sensibilities. I did find this page: http://www.diotavelli.net/PyQtWiki/GPLPyQtWindows , but I'm not sure about installing the whole of Visual Studio .NET as a prerequisite. Can anyone tell me if the passing of the years has made this process any more approachable? For Qt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/windows For PyQt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
Phil Thompson wrote: On Saturday 15 July 2006 9:25 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. I've been trying to get PyQT working on W2K, but have not yet found a sufficiently detailed walk-through for my somewhat command-line-challenged sensibilities. I did find this page: http://www.diotavelli.net/PyQtWiki/GPLPyQtWindows , but I'm not sure about installing the whole of Visual Studio .NET as a prerequisite. Can anyone tell me if the passing of the years has made this process any more approachable? For Qt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/windows For PyQt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php Ah thanks, I'm a dork. Why didn't I see that before mutter? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: For Qt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/windows For PyQt4 use the binary installer from... http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php Ah thanks, I'm a dork. Why didn't I see that before mutter? Waitaminute, didn't you write it? Oh dear. I've got another problem, I'm afraid - I've installed Qt 4.1.4 and PyQt GPL v4.0 over Python 2.4, and the demos for both run happily enough, but when I try to run the first example (in IDLE) from Boudewijn Rempt's GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition I just get ImportError: No module named qt. Is there something I need to add to my sys.path here? Sorry to bother you with the newbie questions. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got another problem, I'm afraid - I've installed Qt 4.1.4 and PyQt GPL v4.0 over Python 2.4, and the demos for both run happily enough, but when I try to run the first example (in IDLE) from Boudewijn Rempt's GUI Programming with Python: QT Edition I just get ImportError: No module named qt. Is there something I need to add to my sys.path here? The module structures for PyQt3 and PyQt4 are quite different: the monolithic qt module from PyQt3 has been replaced by a number of modules in PyQt4. Despite this, there is a similar way to import qt in PyQt4: from PyQt4 import Qt However, you will have difficulty using the examples in that book because it was written for PyQt3. Work is underway to port the book to PyQt4, but it will take some time. (You can help with this and learn about PyQt4 at the same time, if you want.) In the meantime, the set of slides from a talk at EuroPython 2006 is probably the only learning material on the web for PyQt4: http://indico.cern.ch/contributionDisplay.py?contribId=33amp;sessionId=41amp;confId=44 There's plenty of learning material for Qt 4; the official documentation at http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1 contains examples and overviews that are readable if you already know C++. Those of us who use PyQt4 are still catching up! All the best, David -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation /configuration
David Boddie wrote: The module structures for PyQt3 and PyQt4 are quite different: the monolithic qt module from PyQt3 has been replaced by a number of modules in PyQt4. Despite this, there is a similar way to import qt in PyQt4: from PyQt4 import Qt However, you will have difficulty using the examples in that book because it was written for PyQt3. Ah yes, it doesn't recognise QApplication now. Never mind. Work is underway to port the book to PyQt4, but it will take some time. (You can help with this and learn about PyQt4 at the same time, if you want.) Er...you might be overestimating my potential unless there's some *really* entry-level material to be dealt with there. Though they do say it's a good way to learn. Is there a forum? In the meantime, the set of slides from a talk at EuroPython 2006 is probably the only learning material on the web for PyQt4: http://indico.cern.ch/contributionDisplay.py?contribId=33amp;sessionId=41amp;confId=44 There's plenty of learning material for Qt 4; the official documentation at http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1 contains examples and overviews that are readable if you already know C++. One of the reasons I chose Python was so I wouldn't have to, alas. Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: [...] Basically: if you want it on Windows for free, forget Qt Correct. (I hear the cygwin people are trying to make a GPL Qt available for Win+cyg+XFree, but I suspect trolltech ain't happy about that -- anyway, I don't think it would be native, X11 being still required). [...] Not correct. It's driven by KDE, and it's more ambitious than that: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/qt3-win32/roadmap.php IIRC, people have already run some KDE apps under Windows (though still needing X, so far). I wonder how TrollTech will react as (and if) it progresses. John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation
John J. Lee wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) writes: [...] Basically: if you want it on Windows for free, forget Qt Correct. I believe the book C++ GUI programming Qt3 comes with a windows Qt gpl 3.x version. Just have to buy the book. No PyQt version to match thou. Blackadder from the Kompany, while not free, is still a pretty good deal. Like $100 for personal and around $350 for commercial version. Include current windows/linux versions of (Qt)PyQt along with converted Qt C++ to PyQt docs. Not correct. It's driven by KDE, and it's more ambitious than that: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/qt3-win32/roadmap.php IIRC, people have already run some KDE apps under Windows (though still needing X, so far). I wonder how TrollTech will react as (and if) it progresses. I don't think your giving TrollTech any credit here, yes they have a business model and need to make money, but not everybody is Microsoft. They are fully aware and supportive of the project and I remember reading not to long ago they struck an aggrement with the project that if anything ever happened to TrollTech they would release Qt to project under gpl, or something like that. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Ken Godee wrote: [...] I believe the book C++ GUI programming Qt3 comes with a windows Qt gpl 3.x version. Just have to buy the book. No PyQt version to match thou. GPL only if you buy the book makes no sense. Either it's GPL or it isn't. (It isn't, in fact.) [...] IIRC, people have already run some KDE apps under Windows (though still needing X, so far). I wonder how TrollTech will react as (and if) it progresses. I don't think your giving TrollTech any credit here, yes they have a business model and need to make money, but not everybody is Microsoft. They are fully aware and supportive of the project and I remember reading not to long ago they struck an aggrement with the project that if anything ever happened to TrollTech they would release Qt to project under gpl, or something like that. I'd forgotten about that agreement (again, driven by KDE). Reassuring, assuming the legalese corresponds to what one assumes is the spirit of it, and that it will hold water if/when tested in the courts. I am surprised if they support the effort to make a GPL native MS Windows version of Qt. They wouldn't have to be evil monopolists to be concerned about this development, IMHO. John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation
Ken Godee wrote: I believe the book C++ GUI programming Qt3 comes with a windows Qt gpl 3.x version. Just have to buy the book. No PyQt version to match thou. No, Sir. It's a non-commercial edition. At the request from Trolltech, there's no PyQt-nc available for this version of Qt. Blackadder from the Kompany, while not free, is still a pretty good deal. Like $100 for personal and around $350 for commercial version. Include current windows/linux versions of (Qt)PyQt along with converted Qt C++ to PyQt docs. This is much better way to get PyQt for Windows! -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ | http://www.zgodowie.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyQT installation
For those curious about Trolltech's stance on Windows, here's what Trolltech's License FAQ - Open Source Edition ( http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/license_gpl.html ) has to say: Why is there no Open Source (GNU GPL) version of Qt on Windows ? We have regrettably not found a way of making GPL versions for Windows available without risking the very business model we depend upon to be able to further develop and support Qt. Please note that if you make the source code for your project available and your license allows it, any holder of a commercial Qt Windows license can create binaries for your project. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Thursday 30 December 2004 1:27 am, Nanoscalesoft wrote: hello all, I am planning to start coding a nanoscale design software in python with QT interface.I have to do this in windows or linux.Intially windows would be fine. I have struggled almost full day today trying to make from import qt * execute...I have the basic python core. I went through the sites like riverbankcomputing and trolltech and few online pages and books which talk about PyQT but never say about their installation step properly. I need to know step by step what shud i do.I have also installed the windows binary of PyQT from riverbank and have ordered a QTdesigner CD.But i can't wait.I need to do this fast.(Is there any other thing i have to do) Any clean and clear cut info in linux or windows( as I hope this as the groups standard to be) would help me start my nanoscale project or otherwise i have to rethink the GUI..Common QT is my favourite i need my project work to be done on my favourite thing. Exactly what versions of Python, Qt and PyQt have you installed? Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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hi phil... py--2.4 pyqt--3.3 qt--2.3.0 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Thursday 30 December 2004 2:34 pm, Nanoscalesoft wrote: hi phil... py--2.4 pyqt--3.3 I assume you mean PyQt-win-nc-msvc-3.13.exe qt--2.3.0 I assume you mean the non-commercial edition. The binaries are built against Python 2.3.3 - Python 2.4 won't work. Python 2.4 (and later) will never be supported by the non-commercial edition because of the MSVC 6 vs 7 issue. Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Phil Thompson wrote: On Thursday 30 December 2004 2:34 pm, Nanoscalesoft wrote: hi phil... py--2.4 pyqt--3.3 I assume you mean PyQt-win-nc-msvc-3.13.exe qt--2.3.0 I assume you mean the non-commercial edition. The binaries are built against Python 2.3.3 - Python 2.4 won't work. Python 2.4 (and later) will never be supported by the non-commercial edition because of the MSVC 6 vs 7 issue. Phil If that is a real *never* then Qt just fell behind in the what's the best GUI platform stakes. It'd be a shame to lose PyQT, but if there's no way to migrate it forwards it will atrophy and die. Have TrollTech said they will never issue MSVC 7 binaries? Is there no way to use the free Microsoft toolchain to compile, or do the language differences just make the whole deal too difficult (or is there some other show-stopper that my ignorance prevents me from seeing?). regards Steve -- Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/ Holden Web LLC +1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On Thursday 30 December 2004 4:13 pm, Steve Holden wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: On Thursday 30 December 2004 2:34 pm, Nanoscalesoft wrote: hi phil... py--2.4 pyqt--3.3 I assume you mean PyQt-win-nc-msvc-3.13.exe qt--2.3.0 I assume you mean the non-commercial edition. The binaries are built against Python 2.3.3 - Python 2.4 won't work. Python 2.4 (and later) will never be supported by the non-commercial edition because of the MSVC 6 vs 7 issue. Phil If that is a real *never* then Qt just fell behind in the what's the best GUI platform stakes. It'd be a shame to lose PyQT, but if there's no way to migrate it forwards it will atrophy and die. Have TrollTech said they will never issue MSVC 7 binaries? Is there no way to use the free Microsoft toolchain to compile, or do the language differences just make the whole deal too difficult (or is there some other show-stopper that my ignorance prevents me from seeing?). You've completely misunderstood what I said. I specifically said the non-commercial edition. This is a binary only version based on Qt v2.3 and released in March 2001 - the first beta of Qt v4.0 has just been released. The commercial and GPL versions of Qt is supplied in source form and supports MSVC 6, 7, Borland, Cygwin and the Intel compiler. PyQt supports all versions of Python since v1.5.2. I think Qt is doing very well in the best GUI platform stakes if people still want to use a 4 year old version in preference to up to date versions of the alternatives. Phil -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Steve Holden, Quinta 30 Dezembro 2004 14:13, wrote: If that is a real *never* then Qt just fell behind in the what's the best GUI platform stakes. It'd be a shame to lose PyQT, but if there's no way to migrate it forwards it will atrophy and die. Have TrollTech said they will never issue MSVC 7 binaries? non-commercial binaries he said... I hope it is just the non-commercial really, 'cause the look feel of Qt is very nice. Is there no way to use the free Microsoft toolchain to compile, or do the language differences just make the whole deal too difficult (or is there some other show-stopper that my ignorance prevents me from seeing?). Isn't it possible to compile everything with a free compiler? I'm not a Windows user, but... :-) -- Godoy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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does that mean PyQT is not forward What a bad thing is this... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Phil Thompson wrote: On Thursday 30 December 2004 4:13 pm, Steve Holden wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: On Thursday 30 December 2004 2:34 pm, Nanoscalesoft wrote: hi phil... py--2.4 pyqt--3.3 I assume you mean PyQt-win-nc-msvc-3.13.exe qt--2.3.0 I assume you mean the non-commercial edition. The binaries are built against Python 2.3.3 - Python 2.4 won't work. Python 2.4 (and later) will never be supported by the non-commercial edition because of the MSVC 6 vs 7 issue. Phil If that is a real *never* then Qt just fell behind in the what's the best GUI platform stakes. It'd be a shame to lose PyQT, but if there's no way to migrate it forwards it will atrophy and die. Have TrollTech said they will never issue MSVC 7 binaries? Is there no way to use the free Microsoft toolchain to compile, or do the language differences just make the whole deal too difficult (or is there some other show-stopper that my ignorance prevents me from seeing?). You've completely misunderstood what I said. And not for the first time, probably. Mea culpa. I specifically said the non-commercial edition. This is a binary only version based on Qt v2.3 and released in March 2001 - the first beta of Qt v4.0 has just been released. The commercial and GPL versions of Qt is supplied in source form and supports MSVC 6, 7, Borland, Cygwin and the Intel compiler. PyQt supports all versions of Python since v1.5.2. Well, OK, so I take it this means that TrollTech have announced they won't be producing an up to date non-commercial edition? I presume the non-commercial edition is for people who want to use Qt but don't want to pay licensing fees or open their source? Or is the GPL version only available on non-Windows platforms? Of all the GUI platforms I know about, Qt certainly has the murkiest licensing picture. I think Qt is doing very well in the best GUI platform stakes if people still want to use a 4 year old version in preference to up to date versions of the alternatives. I have no quibble with that - as I know, there are a lot of happy Qt users, and it has an interestingly different architecture. It would be even better if the licensing requirements were consistent across all platforms. and-if-wishes-were-horses-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/ Holden Web LLC +1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Nanoscalesoft wrote: does that mean PyQT is not forward What a bad thing is this... Whoa, how did you get it? You can buy commercial licenses and be as current as we are on Linux with GPL versions of Qt+PyQt. Oh, and QScintilla and Eric3! -- Jarek Zgoda http://jpa.berlios.de/ | http://www.zgodowie.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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I got an evaluation version of Qt for Windows and installed PyQt. However, it gives me this error message: ImportError: DLL load failed: It doesn't seem to see the qt-mteval DLL, even though I made sure that the paths to lib and bin subfolders of Qt are there in the PATH. I installed Qt built with MSVC, and PyQt is also built using MSVC (PyQt-win-eval-msvc-3.13.exe). So why it doesn't see the DLL? Python version is 2.3.3. -- It's a man's life in a Python Programming Association. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
PyQT installation
hello all, I am planning to start coding a nanoscale design software in python with QT interface.I have to do this in windows or linux.Intially windows would be fine. I have struggled almost full day today trying to make from import qt * execute...I have the basic python core. I went through the sites like riverbankcomputing and trolltech and few online pages and books which talk about PyQT but never say about their installation step properly. I need to know step by step what shud i do.I have also installed the windows binary of PyQT from riverbank and have ordered a QTdesigner CD.But i can't wait.I need to do this fast.(Is there any other thing i have to do) Any clean and clear cut info in linux or windows( as I hope this as the groups standard to be) would help me start my nanoscale project or otherwise i have to rethink the GUI..Common QT is my favourite i need my project work to be done on my favourite thing. regards, Charles (doing an example program wud be a welcome sweeet) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
