Re: Newbie python questions...
On Apr 15, 7:47 am, Steven D'Aprano steve +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:25:57 -0700, vmars316 wrote: win7HomePremium: Greetings, 1) I installed portablePython(pP) here: C:\Users\vmars\Python3 ?Does that look ok? Sure, why not? 2) I would like to try pyWin, but it won't let me install because there is no pP3.2 in registry. ? How can I update the Registry for Python3.2 ? I'm not a Windows expert, but isn't one of the points of Portal Python that it doesn't mess with the registry? If you don't get an answer here after a couple of days, perhaps try asking again on a Portable Python or pyWin mailing list. 3) When ever I cllick on *.py file, it runs by so fast that I can't see what's going on. ?Is there a way to keep the pyconsole open 'til i decide to close it? Put this line at the very end of your script: x = input(Press Enter to continue... ) 4) I can't seem to get turtleDemo running. ?Can anyone step me thru this? Ive had issues with turtle in windows which were not on linux http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2011-May/1272708.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie python questions...
On Apr 14, 11:25 pm, vmars316 vmars...@gmail.com wrote: win7HomePremium: Greetings, 1) I installed portablePython(pP) here: C:\Users\vmars\Python3 ?Does that look ok? A brief look at portable python's website indicates that its meant for running off usb sticks (ie without installation) If you are installing in the normal way, why not use normal python? http://www.python.org/getit/ [First time I'm hearing of portable python] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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On 4/14/2012 1:25 PM, vmars316 wrote: I installed portablePython(pP) here: C:\Users\vmars\Python3 ?Does that look ok? I would suggest including the minor version number (i.e. Python32 instead of Python3) because not all 3.x code is compatible with all versions of Python 3.x - all code that works on 3.2 will work on 3.3, but not vice versa. 2) I would like to try pyWin, but it won't let me install because there is no pP3.2 in registry. ? How can I update the Registry for Python3.2 ? You miss the point of portable Python. If you want to have entries in the registry, use the standard installer from python.org. 3) When ever I cllick on *.py file, it runs by so fast that I can't see what's going on. Run it from a terminal. There are plenty of guides out there on how to use a command line. ?Is there a way to keep the pyconsole open 'til i decide to close it? In interactive mode (i.e., when you open python.exe and when not called by a script), the interpreter doesn't close until you execute the exit() function. Also, see the previous answer. 4) I can't seem to get turtleDemo running. ?Can anyone step me thru this? Be more specific. BTW, there is a tutorial that covers the basics: http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/index.html -- CPython 3.2.2 | Windows NT 6.1.7601.17640 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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3) When ever I cllick on *.py file, it runs by so fast that I can't see what's going on. ?Is there a way to keep the pyconsole open 'til i decide to close it? Thanks...Vernon This one's answered easily enough - just open a command prompt window at that directory (shift-right click the folder and select Open Command Prompt Window, unless the Home version of Win7 lacks that...) and run python namehere.py from it. ~Temia -- When on earth, do as the earthlings do. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie python questions...
On 4/14/2012 11:25 AM vmars316 said... win7HomePremium: Greetings, 1) I installed portablePython(pP) here: C:\Users\vmars\Python3 ?Does that look ok? 2) I would like to try pyWin, but it won't let me install because there is no pP3.2 in registry. ? How can I update the Registry for Python3.2 ? As a newbie interested in pywin do yourself a favor and start with one of the activestate installers from http://www.activestate.com/activepython/downloads Emile 3) When ever I cllick on *.py file, it runs by so fast that I can't see what's going on. ?Is there a way to keep the pyconsole open 'til i decide to close it? 4) I can't seem to get turtleDemo running. ?Can anyone step me thru this? Thanks...Vernon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie python questions...
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:25:57 -0700, vmars316 wrote: win7HomePremium: Greetings, 1) I installed portablePython(pP) here: C:\Users\vmars\Python3 ?Does that look ok? Sure, why not? 2) I would like to try pyWin, but it won't let me install because there is no pP3.2 in registry. ? How can I update the Registry for Python3.2 ? I'm not a Windows expert, but isn't one of the points of Portal Python that it doesn't mess with the registry? If you don't get an answer here after a couple of days, perhaps try asking again on a Portable Python or pyWin mailing list. 3) When ever I cllick on *.py file, it runs by so fast that I can't see what's going on. ?Is there a way to keep the pyconsole open 'til i decide to close it? Put this line at the very end of your script: x = input(Press Enter to continue... ) 4) I can't seem to get turtleDemo running. ?Can anyone step me thru this? What happens when you try? P.S. in future it's probably best if you split unrelated questions into separate email threads. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie Python questions
On Aug 2, 3:07 pm, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: binaryjesus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One great open source GUI package that you left out is GTK ie. pygtk. i cant compare it with wx as i have never used it but isay its much better than QT. Anyway for ur q if u want to compair qt n wx. QT should be faster coz it has a better documentation. Holy moly, did you send this from your cell phone? -- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. Thanks much to all the replies. At this point I believe I'm going to start with wx and go from there. I probably will build a small test app or two and try the various packages. It doesn't sound like the APIs are going to be too tough to grasp. And yes, I've about 10 years work in Windows using an event-driven model (LabWindows). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie Python questions
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:27 PM, LessPaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 2, 3:07 pm, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: binaryjesus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One great open source GUI package that you left out is GTK ie. pygtk. i cant compare it with wx as i have never used it but isay its much better than QT. Anyway for ur q if u want to compair qt n wx. QT should be faster coz it has a better documentation. Holy moly, did you send this from your cell phone? -- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. Thanks much to all the replies. At this point I believe I'm going to start with wx and go from there. I probably will build a small test app or two and try the various packages. It doesn't sound like the APIs are going to be too tough to grasp. And yes, I've about 10 years work in Windows using an event-driven model (LabWindows). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list Make sure to subscribe to the wxPython list the people there have helped me immensely in the past. -- Stand Fast, tjg. [Timothy Grant] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie Python questions
binaryjesus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One great open source GUI package that you left out is GTK ie. pygtk. i cant compare it with wx as i have never used it but isay its much better than QT. Anyway for ur q if u want to compair qt n wx. QT should be faster coz it has a better documentation. Holy moly, did you send this from your cell phone? -- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie Python questions
LessPaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...My question is in regard to GUI platforms. My primary target would be Windows, but I would also like be able to support Linux and Mac versions if possible. I'm also interested in using a system that also has support for pure C++ applications. As such, and after reading many web pages regarding Python GUIs, I believe I have the candidates narrowed down to pyQT and wxPython. The first question -- how steep is the curve to become proficient with the above GUI packages? There is so much personal preference here that it is extremely hard to give any guidance. If you have done any Windows programming at all, so that you are familiar with the event-driven programming model, then I don't think you would see that much difference in learning curve. The two packages are more alike than they are different -- the various APIs are just spelled differently. I happen to be a big wxPython fan. I learn best by example, and wxPython has a 44,000-line demo suite with 167 source files that demonstrates virtually every class it includes. Since there appears to be no commercial licencing fee for wxWidgets/ wxPython, the last question is what do I gain from going QT over wx? I've seen great applications written with both (on my computer I have the wxPython Digsby and the pyQT apps Mnemosyne and Anki. All seem to be solid. Yep. Personal preference. -- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie Python questions
One great open source GUI package that you left out is GTK ie. pygtk. i cant compare it with wx as i have never used it but isay its much better than QT. Anyway for ur q if u want to compair qt n wx. QT should be faster coz it has a better documentation. and welcome to the python family! kind regards binaryjesus On Jul 31, 12:10 pm, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LessPaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...My question is in regard to GUI platforms. My primary target would be Windows, but I would also like be able to support Linux and Mac versions if possible. I'm also interested in using a system that also has support for pure C++ applications. As such, and after reading many web pages regarding Python GUIs, I believe I have the candidates narrowed down to pyQT and wxPython. The first question -- how steep is the curve to become proficient with the above GUI packages? There is so much personal preference here that it is extremely hard to give any guidance. If you have done any Windows programming at all, so that you are familiar with the event-driven programming model, then I don't think you would see that much difference in learning curve. The two packages are more alike than they are different -- the various APIs are just spelled differently. I happen to be a big wxPython fan. I learn best by example, and wxPython has a 44,000-line demo suite with 167 source files that demonstrates virtually every class it includes. Since there appears to be no commercial licencing fee for wxWidgets/ wxPython, the last question is what do I gain from going QT over wx? I've seen great applications written with both (on my computer I have the wxPython Digsby and the pyQT apps Mnemosyne and Anki. All seem to be solid. Yep. Personal preference. -- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Newbie Python questions
On Jul 29, 12:28 pm, LessPaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently discovered Python and see it as a great language to use for personal projects (and more). I made my living for over a decade as a coder in C, C++, ADA, Fortran, and Assembly before moving to systems engineering. I'm now retired, and would love to code again. I see Python as the perfect language to get a good program working in a short time. My question is in regard to GUI platforms. My primary target would be Windows, but I would also like be able to support Linux and Mac versions if possible. I'm also interested in using a system that also has support for pure C++ applications. As such, and after reading many web pages regarding Python GUIs, I believe I have the candidates narrowed down to pyQT and wxPython. The first question -- how steep is the curve to become proficient with the above GUI packages? If the answer is not very then there is no need for the following questions as I can try both on for size to see which I like best. However if it is a sizable investment in time, I'd like to maximize my efforts and choose the one I'll end up using in the end. The biggest hurdle I can see is the cost of the QT licence for commercial software, though apparently it can be acquired for a reasonable price via the BlackAdder package. Does purchasing the BlackAdder also include the needed software support for C++ development? Does the BlackAdder purchase also allow for licence of standard C++ apps? Since there appears to be no commercial licencing fee for wxWidgets/ wxPython, the last question is what do I gain from going QT over wx? I've seen great applications written with both (on my computer I have the wxPython Digsby and the pyQT apps Mnemosyne and Anki. All seem to be solid. Tim forgot to mention that the wxPython user's group is very helpful and fun. I don't know how the pyQT one is. You could try both toolkits just working on some toy projects before you work on anything commercial. Then they're both free! And you can find out which one better suits you. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
