Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Aug 15, 9:32 pm, Jaseem jas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is python similar to actionscript 3.0 Which is better to create a rich gui internet application? can i suggest that you read this: http://www.javalobby.org/articles/ajax-ria-overview/ and then take a look at this: http://pyjs.org pyjamas puts python onto the RIA roadmap as far as browsers are concerned, and actually makes your question make sense. without pyjamas, your question simply wouldn't make any sense, because without pyjamas, it is impossible to program a web browser in the way that you envisage, leaving (as the other posters point out) either some plugins or some server-side-only options. l. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Aug 16, 1:29 am, Douglas Alan darkwate...@gmail.com wrote: But both python and AS 3.0 is almost identical. No, Python and ActionScript are not almost identical. the AS 3.0 implementation is entirely missing declarative style of programming: it is purely event-driven. i.e. you cannot get an AS 3.0 command prompt and start executing code, you can _only_ do stuff as fired off and in reaction to user-driven events [in an adobe flash/ AIR application]. it would be impossible to say which one is more similar to Lisp. In general, Python is in my opinion more pleasant to program in than ActionScript, but Python is not generally used for client-side browser code. except by pyjamas developers. http://pyjs.org I think the future of client-side browser programming is actuallyJavaScript, not ActionScript, though that future may morph into one that mostly usesJavaScriptas a virtual machine. This is the approach that Google Web Toolkit takes. It lets you write your client-side code in Java, and that is then compiled intoJavaScript. as does pyjamas. http://pyjs.org this also compiles into javascript. the source language: python. l. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Aug 16, 5:43 am, Michel Claveau - MVPenleverlesx_xx...@xmclavxeaux.com wrote: Hi! Python doesn't run in your typical web browser Yes, Python can do it... on Windows. and linux. pyxpcomext. it's a bit of a pig, but perfectly doable: http://pyxpcomext.mozdev.org/tutorials.html Two (examples) ways: - ActiveScripting (PythonScript), include in PyWin32 - Gestalt (who mix Python, Ruby Javascript, via Silverlight) michael, could you kindly update this page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebBrowserProgramming And alse, these two solutions run OK in HTA (HTml Application) for use HTML as GUI tool in local applications. @-salutations -- Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Sep 6, 3:19 pm, lkcl luke.leigh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Aug 16, 1:29 am, Douglas Alan darkwate...@gmail.com wrote: I think the future of client-side browser programming is actuallyJavaScript, not ActionScript, though that future may morph into one that mostly usesJavaScriptas a virtual machine. This is the approach that Google Web Toolkit takes. It lets you write your client-side code in Java, and that is then compiled intoJavaScript. as does pyjamas.http://pyjs.org this also compiles intojavascript. the source language: python. oh - i forgot: there's skulpt as well. http://code.google.com/p/skulpt. skulpt aims to be a python interpreter (written in javascript) first, with an aim to be a browser-based UI toolkit second. pyjamas is the other way round (because it's more useful that way). skulpt's current python compatibility, as a less mature project, is not as good as pyjamas' --strict mode, where we have metaclasses and a near-full implementation of type() etc. it's fair to say that the more python-correct you get, the more dreadful the performance of the resultant javascript. strict typechecked prototypes (in python) a la lisp and a la compiled languages would open the floodgates to keep the same performance as the pyjamas -O option. but - basically, both projects demonstrate that the features of each language are at least interchangeable. this comes as somethin of a surprise to many people. java on the other hand is dreadful. the typechecking _seriously_ impedes progress, as the pypy developers found out and can tell you more about. l. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
Jaseem schrieb: Hi, Is python similar to actionscript 3.0 Not really. Which is better to create a rich gui internet application? Is it AS 3.0 with flex or python with its GUI libs? Flex+AS3 definitely! (it's been designed for that, no surprise here) Is python in demand? Depends. It seems quite popular in the scientific community and for system administration these days. Heard that python is similar to lisp. But both python and AS 3.0 is almost identical. Which is more similar to lisp are powerful? If python is 100m away from lisp, than it's 102.32m for AS3. cheers Paul Thank You. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Aug 16, 9:30 pm, paul p...@subsignal.org wrote: Jaseem schrieb: Hi, Is python similar to actionscript 3.0 Not really. Which is better to create a rich gui internet application? Is it AS 3.0 with flex or python with its GUI libs? Flex+AS3 definitely! (it's been designed for that, no surprise here) Is python in demand? Depends. It seems quite popular in the scientific community and for system administration these days. Heard that python is similar to lisp. But both python and AS 3.0 is almost identical. Which is more similar to lisp are powerful? If python is 100m away from lisp, than it's 102.32m for AS3. cheers Paul Thank You. Alright! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Aug 15, 5:32 pm, Jaseem jas...@gmail.com wrote: Is python similar to actionscript 3.0 For some very rough sense of similar it might be, but not really. Which is better to create a rich gui internet application? Is it AS 3.0 with flex or python with its GUI libs? Python doesn't run in your typical web browser, but it is common to use Python for doing the server-side programming, along with a Python- based web development framework, such as Django. You could use Jython to make a JVM applet that would run in a browser, but JVM applets aren't very popular for a variety of reasons, and I doubt the performance would be very good. Is python in demand? Yes, it's a popular language. Heard that python is similar to lisp. Kind of. Not any more so that JavaScript is, though, for instance. But both python and AS 3.0 is almost identical. No, Python and ActionScript are not almost identical. Which is more similar to lisp are powerful? They both have their similarities and differences from Lisp. I think it would be impossible to say which one is more similar to Lisp. In general, Python is in my opinion more pleasant to program in than ActionScript, but Python is not generally used for client-side browser code. I think the future of client-side browser programming is actually JavaScript, not ActionScript, though that future may morph into one that mostly uses JavaScript as a virtual machine. This is the approach that Google Web Toolkit takes. It lets you write your client-side code in Java, and that is then compiled into JavaScript. |ouglas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
If it were me I'd go with python at least based on the fact that it's more supported and more popular, enough so that it has o'reiley soruces on it. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jaseem jas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Is python similar to actionscript 3.0 Which is better to create a rich gui internet application? Is it AS 3.0 with flex or python with its GUI libs? Is python in demand? Heard that python is similar to lisp. But both python and AS 3.0 is almost identical. Which is more similar to lisp are powerful? Thank You. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Douglas Alandarkwate...@gmail.com wrote: Python doesn't run in your typical web browser, but it is common to use Python for doing the server-side programming, along with a Python- based web development framework, such as Django. You could use Jython to make a JVM applet that would run in a browser, but JVM applets aren't very popular for a variety of reasons, and I doubt the performance would be very good. There is another way to run Python in a browser: MS Silverlight, it runs IronPython on web browsers. http://www.trypython.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python or ActionScript 3.0
Hi! Python doesn't run in your typical web browser Yes, Python can do it... on Windows. Two (examples) ways: - ActiveScripting (PythonScript), include in PyWin32 - Gestalt (who mix Python, Ruby Javascript, via Silverlight) And alse, these two solutions run OK in HTA (HTml Application) for use HTML as GUI tool in local applications. @-salutations -- Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
