Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-27 Thread alex23
Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote:
 it's not the most efficient way to automate applications

Sikuli doesn't seem that much different from Python in this way: it
may not be the most efficient use of the computer's time, but I dare
say it's significantly less demanding on the end user's.

I can see Sikuli easily progressing to a full visual programming
interface, replacing the 'click' keyword et al with iconic
representations.

Simple script-less GUI macro-ing for the masses? Fantastic.
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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-26 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant

Terry Reedy wrote:

On 1/25/2010 9:14 AM, Javier Collado wrote:


I think the site is under maintenance. I tried a couple of hours ago
and it worked fine.

As an alternative, I found that this link also worked:
http://www.sikuli.org/


This just redirects to the link below


http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this



This link is broken!


Worked for me both yesterday and now.


I confirmed it now works.
The demo is pretty impressive.

However one should not be the kind of guy changing its desktop theme on 
a regular basis. If I got it well, all is based on bitmap recognition 
(with some tolerance though). I'll still give it a try.


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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-26 Thread Iuri
I liked this tool! I'm thinking about how I can write acceptance tests with
Sikuli.

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iurisilvio

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Jean-Michel Pichavant 
jeanmic...@sequans.com wrote:

 Terry Reedy wrote:

 On 1/25/2010 9:14 AM, Javier Collado wrote:

  I think the site is under maintenance. I tried a couple of hours ago
 and it worked fine.

 As an alternative, I found that this link also worked:
 http://www.sikuli.org/


 This just redirects to the link below

  http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this


  This link is broken!


 Worked for me both yesterday and now.

  I confirmed it now works.
 The demo is pretty impressive.

 However one should not be the kind of guy changing its desktop theme on a
 regular basis. If I got it well, all is based on bitmap recognition (with
 some tolerance though). I'll still give it a try.

 JM

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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-26 Thread CM
On Jan 24, 10:18 pm, Ron ursusmaxi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
 hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
 automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
 simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
 arguments. Download athttp://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/I also did this
 podcast about 
 Sikulihttp://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3

How is this preferable to a macro recorder?
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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-26 Thread Ron
On Jan 26, 10:59 am, CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 24, 10:18 pm, Ron ursusmaxi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
  hobbyist career. An MIT open source project, Sikuli uses Python to
  automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI based app that runs the JVM) by
  simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
  Arguments. Download athttp://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/Ialso did this
  podcast about 
  Sikulihttp://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3

 How is this preferable to a macro recorder?

Well, the pattern recognition engine allows you to recognize partial
matches to any image, to any desired degree of accuracy. In other
words, you can specify to take action only when an exact match is
found, or else when a 50% match is found. This allows applications
like the baby monitor (to tell you when your  sleeping baby wakes up,
and the imminent bus arrival monitor (to tell you when your bus is
within one mile or any distance you want), and the route mapper from
one city to another on a digital map.

Another thing, Sikuli works with web pages. In other words, you can
automate interaction with web sites as well as with desktop
applications.

You can also automate the entry of text.

And it works (theoretically) on any graphical platform (Mac, Linux,
Window, smartphones, etc).

Probably other advantages. Those are just the ones I see off the top
of my head.

Good question.

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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-26 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/26/2010 1:59 PM, CM wrote:

On Jan 24, 10:18 pm, Ronursusmaxi...@gmail.com  wrote:

Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
arguments. Download athttp://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/I also did this
podcast about 
Sikulihttp://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3


How is this preferable to a macro recorder?


One can add program logic to the interaction. For instance, one of the 
demos on YouTube uses sikuli to read a Bejeweled (game) board. Program 
logic then calculates a move.


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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-26 Thread Tim Roberts
CM cmpyt...@gmail.com wrote:

How is this preferable to a macro recorder?

Macro recorders work by measuring mouse motion and capturing click
locations, or by recording the control IDs of the clicked windows.  The
former is sensitive to changing window locations, the latter to application
updates.

Sikuli works by using image analysis to locate the regions on the screen to
be tickled.  It's a novel idea, although others have correctly pointed out
that it's not the most efficient way to automate applications.
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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Carl Banks
On Jan 24, 7:18 pm, Ron ursusmaxi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
 hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
 automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
 simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
 arguments. Download athttp://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/I also did this
 podcast about 
 Sikulihttp://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3

Nice, thanks for the link.  Very happy to see people using Python for
cool stuff like this, also to see the alternate implementations in
use.

And it couldn't come at a better time for me as I am trying to figure
out how to automate some GUI-only program I am forced to use at work.


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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Olof Bjarnason
2010/1/25 Ron ursusmaxi...@gmail.com:
 Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
 hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
 automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
 simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
 arguments. Download at http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this
 podcast about Sikuli 
 http://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3
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It looks really nice, but the screenhost-taking did not work on my
computer (Win7). Innovative yet simple idea this mix-visual-and-code.


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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant

Ron wrote:

Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
arguments. Download at http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this
podcast about Sikuli 
http://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3
  

It looks like your web site is down.

JM
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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Robin Becker

On 25/01/2010 12:27, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:

Ron wrote:

Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
arguments. Download at http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this
podcast about Sikuli
http://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3

It looks like your web site is down.

JM

there's a u-tube here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxDOlhysFcM

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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Virgil Stokes

On 25-Jan-2010 04:18, Ron wrote:

Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
arguments. Download at http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this
   

This link is broken!

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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Javier Collado
Hello,

I think the site is under maintenance. I tried a couple of hours ago
and it worked fine.

As an alternative, I found that this link also worked:
http://www.sikuli.org/

Unfortunately, it seems it's not working right now.

Best regards,
Javier

2010/1/25 Virgil Stokes v...@it.uu.se:
 On 25-Jan-2010 04:18, Ron wrote:

 Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
 hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
 automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
 simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
 arguments. Download at http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this


 This link is broken!

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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Ron
Thew link at MIT does appear to be down right now, but I presume it
will come back up.

Well, those of you who find it underwhelming are in good company. See
the blog post at Lambda the Ultimate
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3783

I was impressed though by the application to notify you when your bus
gets close to the pickup point, using Google maps, and by the app to
automatically chart a course to Houston from LA on I-10, again using
Google maps. And perhaps most of all, the app to notify you when your
sleeping baby wakes up, from a picture on a digital camera.

Hey, most of life is non-deterministic. I am in the analog engineering
world and simple, deterministic black and white situations are all
fine and useful, but I can see this very easy to use and simple
technology being useful also ;-))

All of the above apps are but a few lines of code.

Ron
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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Terry Reedy

On 1/25/2010 9:14 AM, Javier Collado wrote:


I think the site is under maintenance. I tried a couple of hours ago
and it worked fine.

As an alternative, I found that this link also worked:
http://www.sikuli.org/


This just redirects to the link below


http://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/ I also did this



This link is broken!


Worked for me both yesterday and now.

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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-25 Thread Ron
OK, here's an idea. I used to do screen scraping scripts and run them
as CGI scripts with an HTMl user interface. Why not run Sikuli on
Jython on a JVM running on my server, so that I can do my screen
scraping with Sikuli? I can take user inputs by using CGI forms from a
web client, process the requests using a Sikuli script on the server,
and send the results back to the web client.

This sounds like fun to me, and easier to highlight and capture the
appropriate screen information on targeted web sites using Sikuli than
to hand code location information or even using Beautiful Soup.
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Re: Sikuli: the coolest Python project I have yet seen...

2010-01-24 Thread tim
On Jan 25, 11:18 am, Ron ursusmaxi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sikuli is the coolest Python project I have ever seen in my ten year
 hobbyist career. An MIT oepn source project, Sikuli uses Python to
 automate GUI tasks (in any GUI or GUI baed app that runs the JVM) by
 simply drag and dropping GUI elements into Python scripts as function
 arguments. Download athttp://sikuli.csail.mit.edu/I also did this
 podcast about 
 Sikulihttp://media.libsyn.com/media/awaretek/Python411_20100124_Sikuli.mp3

Wow , It look likes like better than autoIt !!

Very impressed.
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