Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?
In article h9o1bf$cm...@news.eternal-september.org, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. The Maildir specification does not allow for subfolders. That was added in Maildir++, and the subfolder names start with a dot. It's not a wierd extension thereof. No sub-folders within maildir folders but that's not what I was expecting. I was just expecting to be able to list my maildir mailboxes. Now you know why *my* mutt uses mboxes. ;-) -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Normal is what cuts off your sixth finger and your tail... --Siobhan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?
Tim Roberts t...@probo.com wrote: tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. The Maildir specification does not allow for subfolders. That was added in Maildir++, and the subfolder names start with a dot. It's not a wierd extension thereof. No sub-folders within maildir folders but that's not what I was expecting. I was just expecting to be able to list my maildir mailboxes. -- Chris Green -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ??do (if anything)?
Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: The Maildir++ spec states that folders need to begin with a period. The list_folders method enforces that: def list_folders(self): Return a list of folder names. result = [] for entry in os.listdir(self._path): if len(entry) 1 and entry[0] == '.' and \ os.path.isdir(os.path.join(self._path, entry)): result.append(entry[1:]) return result The above example is from 2.6. Your structure is simply a list of Maildir compliant directories below '/home/chris/Mail/apex.' They're not, in the Maildir++ sense of the word, folders. So where does it say in the Python documentation that list_folders() works only with Maildir++? It's a big and non-obvious limitation to my mind. My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. -- Chris Green The doc says that Folders of the style introduced by the Courier mail transfer agent are also supported. Any subdirectory of the main ... are also supported. says to me that 'standard' ones are supported as well and they're *not*. mailbox is considered a folder if '.' is the first character in its name. It's not an explicit endorsement of Maildir++, but it touches on what it considers a folder definition. I'm treading on hazy memory here, but I believe Maildir++ is the definition provided by the Courier folks. So why isn't the class called mailbox.Maildir++ ? :-) -- Chris Green -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ??do (if anything)?
Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. -- Chris Green The doc says that Folders of the style introduced by the Courier mail transfer agent are also supported. Any subdirectory of the main mailbox is considered a folder if '.' is the first character in its name. It's not an explicit endorsement of Maildir++, but it touches on what it considers a folder definition. I'm treading on hazy memory here, but I believe Maildir++ is the definition provided by the Courier folks. -- Thanks, Jeff mcjeff.blogspot.com http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Maildir That might help as well. You can have Mutt setup your folders using that extended method. Thanks, but no thanks. It creates 'folders' which aren't proper hierarchical directories at all and breaks all sorts of standard Unix/Linux ways of handling data. It's basically *horrible* and to be avoided at all costs if you actually want to have a local mail spool. It's OK if it's hidden behind an IMAP mail server or something but otherwise no. -- Chris Green -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?
tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. The Maildir specification does not allow for subfolders. That was added in Maildir++, and the subfolder names start with a dot. It's not a wierd extension thereof. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually do (if anything)?
On Sep 25, 3:22 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I can't get the list_folders() method of the mailbox.Maildir class to do anything remotely useful. It seems to do nothing at all. I have a directory which contains a number of maildir malboxes:- chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex total 24 drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 charles.rustin drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 greg drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 maureenMcgoldrick drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 ram drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 sarahLagley drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 symonSmith chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex/ram total 12 drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 cur drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 new drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 tmp If I run the following code:- #!/usr/bin/python # # # Mail archiving utility # import mailbox topLevel=mailbox.Maildir(/home/chris/Mail/apex) print topLevel.list_folders() It just outputs []. Am I doing something totally wrong or is list_folders() completely broken? -- Chris Green The Maildir++ spec states that folders need to begin with a period. The list_folders method enforces that: def list_folders(self): Return a list of folder names. result = [] for entry in os.listdir(self._path): if len(entry) 1 and entry[0] == '.' and \ os.path.isdir(os.path.join(self._path, entry)): result.append(entry[1:]) return result The above example is from 2.6. Your structure is simply a list of Maildir compliant directories below '/home/chris/Mail/apex.' They're not, in the Maildir++ sense of the word, folders. -- Thanks, Jeff mcjeff.blospot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?
Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: On Sep 25, 3:22 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I can't get the list_folders() method of the mailbox.Maildir class to do anything remotely useful. It seems to do nothing at all. I have a directory which contains a number of maildir malboxes:- chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex total 24 drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 charles.rustin drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 greg drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 maureenMcgoldrick drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 ram drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 sarahLagley drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 symonSmith chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex/ram total 12 drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 cur drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 new drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 tmp If I run the following code:- #!/usr/bin/python # # # Mail archiving utility # import mailbox topLevel=mailbox.Maildir(/home/chris/Mail/apex) print topLevel.list_folders() It just outputs []. Am I doing something totally wrong or is list_folders() completely broken? -- Chris Green The Maildir++ spec states that folders need to begin with a period. The list_folders method enforces that: def list_folders(self): Return a list of folder names. result = [] for entry in os.listdir(self._path): if len(entry) 1 and entry[0] == '.' and \ os.path.isdir(os.path.join(self._path, entry)): result.append(entry[1:]) return result The above example is from 2.6. Your structure is simply a list of Maildir compliant directories below '/home/chris/Mail/apex.' They're not, in the Maildir++ sense of the word, folders. So where does it say in the Python documentation that list_folders() works only with Maildir++? It's a big and non-obvious limitation to my mind. My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. -- Chris Green -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?
On Sep 25, 4:13 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: On Sep 25, 3:22 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I can't get the list_folders() method of the mailbox.Maildir class to do anything remotely useful. It seems to do nothing at all. I have a directory which contains a number of maildir malboxes:- chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex total 24 drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 charles.rustin drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 greg drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 maureenMcgoldrick drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 ram drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 sarahLagley drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 symonSmith chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex/ram total 12 drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 cur drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 new drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 tmp If I run the following code:- #!/usr/bin/python # # # Mail archiving utility # import mailbox topLevel=mailbox.Maildir(/home/chris/Mail/apex) print topLevel.list_folders() It just outputs []. Am I doing something totally wrong or is list_folders() completely broken? -- Chris Green The Maildir++ spec states that folders need to begin with a period. The list_folders method enforces that: def list_folders(self): Return a list of folder names. result = [] for entry in os.listdir(self._path): if len(entry) 1 and entry[0] == '.' and \ os.path.isdir(os.path.join(self._path, entry)): result.append(entry[1:]) return result The above example is from 2.6. Your structure is simply a list of Maildir compliant directories below '/home/chris/Mail/apex.' They're not, in the Maildir++ sense of the word, folders. So where does it say in the Python documentation that list_folders() works only with Maildir++? It's a big and non-obvious limitation to my mind. My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. -- Chris Green The doc says that Folders of the style introduced by the Courier mail transfer agent are also supported. Any subdirectory of the main mailbox is considered a folder if '.' is the first character in its name. It's not an explicit endorsement of Maildir++, but it touches on what it considers a folder definition. I'm treading on hazy memory here, but I believe Maildir++ is the definition provided by the Courier folks. -- Thanks, Jeff mcjeff.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: What does the list_folders() method of mailbox.Maildir actually ?do (if anything)?
On Sep 25, 4:28 pm, Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: On Sep 25, 4:13 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: Jeff McNeil j...@jmcneil.net wrote: On Sep 25, 3:22 pm, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote: I can't get the list_folders() method of the mailbox.Maildir class to do anything remotely useful. It seems to do nothing at all. I have a directory which contains a number of maildir malboxes:- chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex total 24 drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 charles.rustin drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 greg drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 maureenMcgoldrick drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 ram drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 sarahLagley drwx-- 5 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:46 symonSmith chris$ ls -l /home/chris/Mail/apex/ram total 12 drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 cur drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 new drwx-- 2 chris chris 4096 2009-04-30 09:45 tmp If I run the following code:- #!/usr/bin/python # # # Mail archiving utility # import mailbox topLevel=mailbox.Maildir(/home/chris/Mail/apex) print topLevel.list_folders() It just outputs []. Am I doing something totally wrong or is list_folders() completely broken? -- Chris Green The Maildir++ spec states that folders need to begin with a period. The list_folders method enforces that: def list_folders(self): Return a list of folder names. result = [] for entry in os.listdir(self._path): if len(entry) 1 and entry[0] == '.' and \ os.path.isdir(os.path.join(self._path, entry)): result.append(entry[1:]) return result The above example is from 2.6. Your structure is simply a list of Maildir compliant directories below '/home/chris/Mail/apex.' They're not, in the Maildir++ sense of the word, folders. So where does it say in the Python documentation that list_folders() works only with Maildir++? It's a big and non-obvious limitation to my mind. My maildir hierarchy is created by mutt which is a *very* standards compliant MUA, surely standard python libraries should work with standard maildirs not some wierd extension thereof. -- Chris Green The doc says that Folders of the style introduced by the Courier mail transfer agent are also supported. Any subdirectory of the main mailbox is considered a folder if '.' is the first character in its name. It's not an explicit endorsement of Maildir++, but it touches on what it considers a folder definition. I'm treading on hazy memory here, but I believe Maildir++ is the definition provided by the Courier folks. -- Thanks, Jeff mcjeff.blogspot.com http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Maildir That might help as well. You can have Mutt setup your folders using that extended method. -- Thanks, Jeff mcjeff.blogspot.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
