Re: Your IDE's?

[Dan Stromberg]

I just mentioned essentially this in another thread, but I really like vim
with syntastic and jedi plus a few other plugins.

I keep all my vim config at http://stromberg.dnsalias.org/svn/vimrc/trunk/
so it's easy to set up a new machine.  I haven't used it on anything but
Debian/Ubuntu/Mint recently though, so other OS'es/Distributions may not
work.  It also does bash, lua, etcetera.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 2:40 PM John Doe  wrote:

>
> What is your favorite Python IDE?
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Re: Your IDE's?

[Hongyi Zhao]

On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:10:51 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:

> Does Microsoft have another product that is similar to Atom?  What is
> it?
> Just wondering.  I use Emacs myself.

vscode:
https://code.visualstudio.com/
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Re: Your IDE's?

[Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer]

XD John Doe, seems like an anonymous survey.

I use sublime text, with linter + anaconda exec when needed. It also has an
in-built run mode if you want to use it. The main advantage for me is that
it is light. I used many IDEs before settling on this one.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Pankaj Jangid]

Ben Finney  writes:

> John Doe  writes:
>
>> What is your favorite Python IDE?
>
> Maybe the Atom editor will get there some day, though for now I hear
> many complaints that with many plug-ins active it's just too slow when
> doing the kind of complex tasks we expect of a programmer's editor like
> Vim or GNU Emacs.

I also use Emacs for all my coding requirements.

Atom will probably be abandonded now. Github is now acquired by
Microsoft and hence their is no point for them to run two similar
projects. The community might fork it though.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Ben Finney]

Mr Zaug  writes:

> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 5:38:41 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> > What is your favorite Python IDE?
>
> "Your IDE's?" is not a question

It is a topic for discussion though. Hence, appropriate for the Subject
field. Especially because he then wrote a full sentence question in the
message body.

> nor is any word in English made plural with an apostrophe  s.

Bob the Angry Flower agrees http://www.angryflower.com/247.html>.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Cameron Simpson]

On 27Mar2019 10:55, Anssi Saari  wrote:

Ben Finney  writes:

Emacs and a shell multiplexer (today, that's GNU Screen, but others
swear that I should try TMux).


I've actually been using tmux for a while. The only reason and the only
thing I can think of that it does and screen doesn't is that tmux can
display italic text and screen apparently can't. So I went with tmux for
Usenet.

Well, there were some claims from tmux about it being a better terminal
but I can't really see a difference.


I find the tmux command line far more regular and flexible. Screen's 
option set is ... weird and complex and has clearly just grown over 
time. Tmux is far better there.


It also has more features: panes within windows, etc. I rarely use that 
(I use panes in my terminal emulator heavily though), although my mutt 
composition mode uses a tmux pane for the composition so I still have 
access to the main index above it.


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Re: Your IDE's?

[Mr Zaug]

On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 5:38:41 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> What is your favorite Python IDE?

"Your IDE's?" is not a question, nor is any word in English made plural with an 
apostrophe  s.
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Re: Your IDE's?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2019-03-25, John Doe  wrote:

> What is your favorite Python IDE?

Unix+Emacs

I sometimes wish that Emacs had a better code folding mode when
browsing other people's code, but the editors I've tried that do have
nice code-folding fall down at too many other tasks.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Anssi Saari]

Ben Finney  writes:

> Emacs and a shell multiplexer (today, that's GNU Screen, but others
> swear that I should try TMux).

I've actually been using tmux for a while. The only reason and the only
thing I can think of that it does and screen doesn't is that tmux can
display italic text and screen apparently can't. So I went with tmux for
Usenet.

Well, there were some claims from tmux about it being a better terminal
but I can't really see a difference.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Tim Johnson]

* Rich Shepard  [190326 15:19]:
> On 2019-03-25 21:38, John Doe wrote:
> 
> > What is your favorite Python IDE?
> 
> Emacs on Slackware.

  I'm an old Slacker, but got lazy and even older, so now use
  ubuntu.
  
  I also use emacs to which I have added evil and elpy; and further
  customized with plenty of my own elisp code. They won't take any
  of that away unless they pry it from my cold, dead fingers, but
  that's just me. :)
  
  I wouldn't wish emacs or vim on anyone who didn't feel that the
  learning curve was worth it.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Rich Shepard]

On 2019-03-25 21:38, John Doe wrote:


What is your favorite Python IDE?


Emacs on Slackware.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Cameron Simpson]

On 25Mar2019 21:47, Tim Chase  wrote:

On 2019-03-25 21:38, John Doe wrote:

What is your favorite Python IDE?


Unix.

https://sanctum.geek.nz/arabesque/series/unix-as-ide/

Namely $EDITOR (for some value of ed/vi/vim), a shell (usually
bash, ksh, or /bin/sh), a VCS (usually git, subversion, rcs, or
fossil, though sometimes CVS or Mercurial), and a whole suite of
other battle-tested tools that work together.


The same.

A good terminal emultator helps a lot too: I use iTerm3 on a Mac, and it 
is outstanding. In particular, it lets one tile terminal sessions really 
well.


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Re: Your IDE's?

[Tim Chase]

On 2019-03-25 21:38, John Doe wrote:
> What is your favorite Python IDE?

Unix.

https://sanctum.geek.nz/arabesque/series/unix-as-ide/

Namely $EDITOR (for some value of ed/vi/vim), a shell (usually
bash, ksh, or /bin/sh), a VCS (usually git, subversion, rcs, or
fossil, though sometimes CVS or Mercurial), and a whole suite of
other battle-tested tools that work together.

-tkc


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OT Re: Your IDE's?

[DL Neil]

Those of delicate disposition should look away now...



The invention is not mine: aside from his name, have a look at the
OP's purported email address, and his requested ReplyTo: address. Then
check the veracity of those domainNMs...


I only rarely do so as I can usually detect such from the pull on my
leg. :)
Cheers, Gene Heskett



Would that be a pull on your jeans' leg?

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 25 March 2019 22:24:14 DL Neil wrote:

> On 26/03/19 12:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 25 March 2019 18:20:29 DL Neil wrote:
> >> On 26/03/19 10:38 AM, John Doe wrote:
> >>> What is your favorite Python IDE?
> >>
> >> In case you are tempted to reply, neither of "John"'s supposed
> >> domains resolves (to a web site)/has been registered.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards =dn
> >
> > your email agent is inventing links? There were none in the single
> > msg I got from a john doe. Unless they were buried in the headers
> > that kmail doesn't show me..
>
> The invention is not mine: aside from his name, have a look at the
> OP's purported email address, and his requested ReplyTo: address. Then
> check the veracity of those domainNMs...
>
I only rarely do so as I can usually detect such from the pull on my 
leg. :)

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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Your IDE's?

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 25 March 2019 22:14:48 Spencer Graves wrote:

> On 2019-03-25 18:55, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 25 March 2019 18:20:29 DL Neil wrote:
> >> On 26/03/19 10:38 AM, John Doe wrote:
> >>> What is your favorite Python IDE?
> >>
> >> In case you are tempted to reply, neither of "John"'s supposed
> >> domains resolves (to a web site)/has been registered.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards =dn
> >
> > your email agent is inventing links? There were none in the single
> > msg I got from a john doe. Unless they were buried in the headers
> > that kmail doesn't show me..
>
>    The original email was "From John Doe ", with a
> "Reply to John Doe ".  "Doe.com" is a URL being
> advertised for sale for $150,000.  "ping something.com" returns,
> "cannot resolve something.com:  Unknown host".
>
>
>    Clearly the original poster is playing games with us.
>
>
And that, like excrement, happens. Sooner if you eat regularly. :-)

>        Spencer
>
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Your IDE's?

[Spencer Graves]

On 2019-03-25 18:55, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 25 March 2019 18:20:29 DL Neil wrote:


On 26/03/19 10:38 AM, John Doe wrote:

What is your favorite Python IDE?

In case you are tempted to reply, neither of "John"'s supposed domains
resolves (to a web site)/has been registered.

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your email agent is inventing links? There were none in the single msg I
got from a john doe. Unless they were buried in the headers that kmail
doesn't show me..



  The original email was "From John Doe ", with a 
"Reply to John Doe ".  "Doe.com" is a URL being 
advertised for sale for $150,000.  "ping something.com" returns, "cannot 
resolve something.com:  Unknown host".



  Clearly the original poster is playing games with us.


      Spencer


Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: Your IDE's?

[DL Neil]

On 26/03/19 12:55 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 25 March 2019 18:20:29 DL Neil wrote:


On 26/03/19 10:38 AM, John Doe wrote:

What is your favorite Python IDE?


In case you are tempted to reply, neither of "John"'s supposed domains
resolves (to a web site)/has been registered.

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Regards =dn

your email agent is inventing links? There were none in the single msg I
got from a john doe. Unless they were buried in the headers that kmail
doesn't show me..


The invention is not mine: aside from his name, have a look at the OP's 
purported email address, and his requested ReplyTo: address. Then check 
the veracity of those domainNMs...


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Re: Your IDE's?

[Ben Finney]

John Doe  writes:

> What is your favorite Python IDE?

The same as my favourite JavaScript IDE, Haskell IDE, and any other
language I need:

Emacs and a shell multiplexer (today, that's GNU Screen, but others
swear that I should try TMux).

An IDE, like all of the tools that we rely on for getting our work done,
should be free software and owned by its community to ensure it's always
meeting its community's needs.

An IDE in particular should handle my programming tasks well regardless
of whether it was designed with that programming language in mind. So a
mature, flexible, extensible, language-agnostic IDE is a must.

Of those available, I know of Vim and GNU Emacs to be the strongest
contenders.

Maybe the Atom editor will get there some day, though for now I hear
many complaints that with many plug-ins active it's just too slow when
doing the kind of complex tasks we expect of a programmer's editor like
Vim or GNU Emacs.

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Re: Your IDE's?

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 25 March 2019 18:20:29 DL Neil wrote:

> On 26/03/19 10:38 AM, John Doe wrote:
> > What is your favorite Python IDE?
>
> In case you are tempted to reply, neither of "John"'s supposed domains
> resolves (to a web site)/has been registered.
>
> --
> Regards =dn
your email agent is inventing links? There were none in the single msg I 
got from a john doe. Unless they were buried in the headers that kmail 
doesn't show me..


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Your IDE's?

[DL Neil]

On 26/03/19 10:38 AM, John Doe wrote:


What is your favorite Python IDE?



In case you are tempted to reply, neither of "John"'s supposed domains 
resolves (to a web site)/has been registered.


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Re: Your IDE's?

[oliver]

Been using IDEs for 30 years (turbopascal anyone?): by far, PyCharm (used
for 5 years so far). Then VS Code (one year). I still use both. Vs Code is
faster to load, uses less mem and has a simplicity about it that is
appealing.

BUT vscode has similar speed to pycharm once started (actually might even
be slower), and although very capable, is not anything as capable as
pycharm when it comes to refactoring, inspections, configurability,
debugging, find/replace, integration with Git (way better than the 2
leading Git plugins for vs code), and various other capabilities you take
for granted in pycharm like finding unused imports, deep integration with
pytest, and many more.

On Mon., Mar. 25, 2019, 17:41 John Doe,  wrote:

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