Re: datetime question
On 13/11/2013 00:37, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 09:42:38 +1100, Chris Angelico declaimed the following: Plus, they switch clocks at 2am all the time, not at 2am forward and 3am backward. 2AM is the time at which US switches occur also, in either direction. The difference compared with the EU is that they switch according to local time, so different US time zones switch at different UTC times. Unfortunately, my radio controlled clocks tend to synchronize between 1 and 2 AM, and those that automatically do daylight vs normal switching (three Oregon Scientific) miss the broadcast of the change. My watch and a LaCrosse unit require manual toggling between the two. Good thing I don't run a store... I'd annoy my customers by changing the store hours instead -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
In article , Alister wrote: > > Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon as > > possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all operations. > > Only when it's about to be presented to the user should you convert it > > back to local time if you need to. > > > > -tkc > > & it is probably best converted to local time client side (as has already > been suggested) you may end up with a situation where the server is in > the USA & your user is in Portugal. Or, your server is in California, your user is in Portugal, and he prefers to keep his laptop on New York time. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:02:58 +1100, Chris Angelico > declaimed the following: > >>On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber >> wrote: >>> Of course, I'm spoiled... My /watch/ has a dial for UTC, along with >>> one >>> for 24-hour indication (one hand, range 1 to 24) >> >>Heh. Mine doesn't, so I bought myself a second watch and set it to >>UTC. So my left hand has local time (changes at DST breaks, changes >>when I travel internationally), and my right hand has UTC (never >>changes). >> > > > http://www.amazon.com/Citizen-JY-53E-Skyhawk-Eco-Drive-Watch/dp/B000ZPMYQI > > Only watch I've ever heard of having a recall... The radio synch logic > fell apart a few years back, and lost a day. As a result mine now has a > mark from a small center punch on the back to identify it as having had its > firmware redone. > > I recall the sales lady's blunder... After persuading me on this model > (it was replacing an earlier Citizen Navi-Hawk as I recall) she tried to > sell me a battery replacement service plan -- for a watch that charges via > solar panel! My UTC watch is an Eco-Drive too, but without radio sync, and much simpler all round than yours. And roughly half the price, and that counting the Amazon price not the list price. I don't think I could justify to myself spending $650 on a second watch!! If only more people would start "thinking UTC", all sorts of synchronization problems would vanish. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Joel Goldstick wrote: > In the US, the state of Indiana is really weird. Three separate time > zone areas, that don't all flip in the same way. See this for TZ > hell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_time_zones Timezones are one of the most interesting [1] things in the world. Ireland doesn't move clocks forward for summer time, they move them backward for winter time... I swear, when I first heard that, I thought it was just one of those Irish jokes with no basis, but it is true... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland Plus, they switch clocks at 2am all the time, not at 2am forward and 3am backward. ChrisA [1] Define "interesting". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379786/quotes?item=qt0433039 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:57:55 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's > TimeZone by issuing a linux command? If you have that degreee of control over the server, yes, but UTC is always safer, because if you need to move your server to a different site (eg disaster recovery) UTC is still UTC. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:47:58 +, Andy Lawton wrote: > (I think "Europe/Kiev" is Greece but I don't know) I suspect Nick is really in a coding sweatshop in "Asia/Mumbai" -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:09 PM, MRAB wrote: > On 12/11/2013 16:12, Tim Chase wrote: >> >> On 2013-11-12 17:57, Ferrous Cranus wrote: >>> >>> > Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as >>> > soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all >>> > operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user >>> > should you convert it back to local time if you need to. >>> >>> or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's >>> TimeZone by issuing a linux command? >> >> >> Regardless of the server's configured TZ, best practice still says to >> normalize everything to UTC (ESPECIALLY if Greece uses the >> abomination of DST that we suffer here in the US) as soon as >> possible and keep it that way for as long as possible. >> > FTR, the countries in the EU all change at the same (UTC) time. > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list In the US, the state of Indiana is really weird. Three separate time zone areas, that don't all flip in the same way. See this for TZ hell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_time_zones -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 12/11/2013 16:12, Tim Chase wrote: On 2013-11-12 17:57, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as > soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all > operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user > should you convert it back to local time if you need to. or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's TimeZone by issuing a linux command? Regardless of the server's configured TZ, best practice still says to normalize everything to UTC (ESPECIALLY if Greece uses the abomination of DST that we suffer here in the US) as soon as possible and keep it that way for as long as possible. FTR, the countries in the EU all change at the same (UTC) time. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 12/11/2013 16:12, Tim Chase wrote: Regardless of the server's configured TZ, best practice still says to normalize everything to UTC (ESPECIALLY if Greece uses the abomination of DST that we suffer here in the US) as soon as possible and keep it that way for as long as possible. -tkc Why oh why do I have an image of people at Bletchley Park trying to switch Colossus from GMT to DOUBLE British Summer Time and back again? -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:54:44 -0600, Tim Chase wrote: > On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote: >> But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece? >> >> How would datetime.now() work then? > > Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon as > possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all operations. > Only when it's about to be presented to the user should you convert it > back to local time if you need to. > > -tkc & it is probably best converted to local time client side (as has already been suggested) you may end up with a situation where the server is in the USA & your user is in Portugal. how i you going to identify the users time zone server side(clue you cant at least not reliably). whatever solution you take it is better written as a function rather than a single line of code so it can be re-used, you are almost certainly going to want this in more than one place complicated one-liners may "look cool" to show of your programming skills but in the real world they are a maintenance nightmare & are probably best avoided. -- The plot was designed in a light vein that somehow became varicose. -- David Lardner -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Στις 12/11/2013 5:54 μμ, ο/η Tim Chase έγραψε: >> On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote: >>> But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece? >>> >>> How would datetime.now() work then? >> >> Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon >> as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all >> operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user should >> you convert it back to local time if you need to. >> >> -tkc >> >> >> > > or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's TimeZone > by issuing a linux command? > -- > Thus totally screwing all the other users/sites hosted on that server? Thus totally screwing up all the housekeeping and maintenance OS tasks that are run by chron jobs? Shakes head in dismay... Bill -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 2013-11-12 17:57, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > > Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as > > soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all > > operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user > > should you convert it back to local time if you need to. > > or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's > TimeZone by issuing a linux command? Regardless of the server's configured TZ, best practice still says to normalize everything to UTC (ESPECIALLY if Greece uses the abomination of DST that we suffer here in the US) as soon as possible and keep it that way for as long as possible. -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 12/11/2013 5:54 μμ, ο/η Tim Chase έγραψε: On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote: But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece? How would datetime.now() work then? Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user should you convert it back to local time if you need to. -tkc or perhaps by confiruing the timezone of the server to use Greece's TimeZone by issuing a linux command? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 2013-11-12 17:24, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece? > > How would datetime.now() work then? Best practices say to move the value from local time to UTC as soon as possible, then store/use the UTC time internally for all operations. Only when it's about to be presented to the user should you convert it back to local time if you need to. -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 12/11/2013 4:57 μμ, ο/η Chris Angelico έγραψε: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: Joel i must thank you for your help. I cannot believe it was so simple. Tnhe server is self aware of its location so why use utcnow() + timedelte( some_digit_here ) when you can just use just now() Did you ever go and look at the docs, like you were advised to? Next time you have a problem, go read the docs. You never know, you might discover something! ChrisA But what of the server was in California and i live in Greece? How would datetime.now() work then? now() would return the time fo the server not my local time, so if i change servers and the server isn't located to the same timezone as i'am locally, wouldn't that raise a problem? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > Joel i must thank you for your help. > > I cannot believe it was so simple. > > Tnhe server is self aware of its location so why use utcnow() + timedelte( > some_digit_here ) when you can just use just now() Did you ever go and look at the docs, like you were advised to? Next time you have a problem, go read the docs. You never know, you might discover something! ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
In article , Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-11-11, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > On 11/11/2013 23:21, mm0fmf wrote: > >> On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote: > >>> On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote: > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, ?? ?? > wrote: > > >> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( > >> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format > > > Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust > > itself if DST happens? > > Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from > posting it. > >>> > >>> Boy, are you in luck! I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down > >>> ascii white-space at bargain basement prices! > >> > >> Is that metric or imperial whitespace? > >> > >> You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe. > > > > Except for the UK, our multi-national approach means that both imperial > > and metric whitespace are acceptable. > > Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and > Imperial whitespace. Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably > assume American... And don't assume that the whitespace you find in a red state is the same as you'll find in a blue state. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 12/11/2013 4:03 μμ, ο/η Joel Goldstick έγραψε:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
Στις 12/11/2013 2:47 μμ, ο/η Andy Lawton έγραψε:
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
joined this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And
thought I'd have a go playing around with your code and code given to
you (worst possible place to start, I'm sure)
But from the answers already given to you, this seems to work and as you
requested, in reality, this keeps your code to 1 line...
I'm sure this is wrong, and isn't what you want, but hey, Correct
working code doesn't seem to matter to you anyway...
(I think "Europe/Kiev" is Greece but I don't know)
from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
import time
import pytz
def is_dst(zonename):
tz = pytz.timezone(zonename)
now = pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
return now.astimezone(tz).dst() != timedelta(0)
def dst_greece():
if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
diff = 2
else:
diff = 3
return diff
lastvisit = (datetime.utcnow() +timedelta(hours=dst_greece())).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
On 12 November 2013 10:15, Ferrous Cranus mailto:nikos.gr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have
to
alter the line manually when time changes?
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format
Thanks.
Example:
#check if date entered as intented, format it properly for MySQL
lastvisit = datetime.strptime(lastvisit, '%d %m
%Y').strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
The above code gets the datetime string in a specific way and then
convert it to another format. All happens in one line clear and
simple.
Now, in the following statement there shopuld be some way to check
for daylight saving time so i would aboiut add +2 in winter or +3
for greek summer time.
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' ) # MySQL datetime format
I think + timedelta(hours=2) should be substituted with something
else but i don't with what.
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this requires a function to be declared while i just want just an argument
inside timedelta( ) that will automatically detect DST or not.
No function declaration but instead something like:
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta( some_arg_here_that_can detect
greece's_DST_or_not) ).strftime) '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL
datetime format
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I think that is a great solution. What would happen if you just did this:
lastvisit2 = (datetime.now()).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
Why don't you try it out and see what you find?
(PS, this was pointed out to me by a pro, so I did a little reading in
the python docs and took Andy's excellent code and added a couple of
lines to test.)
I switched to my local timezone "US/Eastern" to test. My machine is
running Ubuntu. It seems to know that it is in the Eastern US. If
your server knows where it lives, then this should work for you also.
If it is set to a different timezone, I'm not sure I could help you,
but I'm sure someone could. You even might ask your host if this is
possible.
--
#! /usr/bin/env python
from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
import time
import pytz
def is_dst(zonename):
tz = pytz.timezone(zonename)
now = pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
return now.astimezone(tz).dst() != timedelta(0)
def dst_greece():
#if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
if is_dst("US/Eastern") :
diff = -6
else:
diff = -5
return diff
lastvisit = (datetime.utcnow()
+timedelta(hours=dst_greece())).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
lastvisit2 = (datetime.now()).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
print lastvisit
print lastvisit2
--
Joel i must thank you for your help.
I cannot believe it was so simple.
lastvisit = ( datetime.now() ).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S') # MySQL
datetime format
Tnhe server is self aware of its location so why use utcnow() +
timedelte( some_digit_here ) when you can just use just now()
Great solution, no need for function declaration and importing of new
pytz modules.
Simple and straightforward, Thank you!
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Re: datetime question
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Στις 12/11/2013 2:47 μμ, ο/η Andy Lawton έγραψε:
>>
>> Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
>> joined this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And
>> thought I'd have a go playing around with your code and code given to
>> you (worst possible place to start, I'm sure)
>>
>> But from the answers already given to you, this seems to work and as you
>> requested, in reality, this keeps your code to 1 line...
>>
>> I'm sure this is wrong, and isn't what you want, but hey, Correct
>> working code doesn't seem to matter to you anyway...
>>
>> (I think "Europe/Kiev" is Greece but I don't know)
>>
>> from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
>> import time
>> import pytz
>>
>> def is_dst(zonename):
>> tz = pytz.timezone(zonename)
>> now = pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
>> return now.astimezone(tz).dst() != timedelta(0)
>>
>> def dst_greece():
>> if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
>> diff = 2
>> else:
>> diff = 3
>> return diff
>>
>> lastvisit = (datetime.utcnow() +timedelta(hours=dst_greece())).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
>>
>>
>> On 12 November 2013 10:15, Ferrous Cranus > > wrote:
>>
>> Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
>>
>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
>>
>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have
>> to
>> alter the line manually when time changes?
>>
>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> #check if date entered as intented, format it properly for MySQL
>> lastvisit = datetime.strptime(lastvisit, '%d %m
>> %Y').strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
>>
>> The above code gets the datetime string in a specific way and then
>> convert it to another format. All happens in one line clear and
>> simple.
>>
>> Now, in the following statement there shopuld be some way to check
>> for daylight saving time so i would aboiut add +2 in winter or +3
>> for greek summer time.
>>
>>
>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' ) # MySQL datetime format
>>
>> I think + timedelta(hours=2) should be substituted with something
>> else but i don't with what.
>> --
>> https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> this requires a function to be declared while i just want just an argument
> inside timedelta( ) that will automatically detect DST or not.
>
> No function declaration but instead something like:
> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta( some_arg_here_that_can detect
> greece's_DST_or_not) ).strftime) '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL
> datetime format
>
>
>
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
I think that is a great solution. What would happen if you just did this:
lastvisit2 = (datetime.now()).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
Why don't you try it out and see what you find?
(PS, this was pointed out to me by a pro, so I did a little reading in
the python docs and took Andy's excellent code and added a couple of
lines to test.)
I switched to my local timezone "US/Eastern" to test. My machine is
running Ubuntu. It seems to know that it is in the Eastern US. If
your server knows where it lives, then this should work for you also.
If it is set to a different timezone, I'm not sure I could help you,
but I'm sure someone could. You even might ask your host if this is
possible.
--
#! /usr/bin/env python
from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
import time
import pytz
def is_dst(zonename):
tz = pytz.timezone(zonename)
now = pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
return now.astimezone(tz).dst() != timedelta(0)
def dst_greece():
#if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
if is_dst("US/Eastern") :
diff = -6
else:
diff = -5
return diff
lastvisit = (datetime.utcnow()
+timedelta(hours=dst_greece())).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
lastvisit2 = (datetime.now()).strftime('%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
print lastvisit
print lastvisit2
--
--
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http://joelgoldstick.com
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Re: datetime question
Στις 12/11/2013 2:47 μμ, ο/η Andy Lawton έγραψε:
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I
joined this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And
thought I'd have a go playing around with your code and code given to
you (worst possible place to start, I'm sure)
But from the answers already given to you, this seems to work and as you
requested, in reality, this keeps your code to 1 line...
I'm sure this is wrong, and isn't what you want, but hey, Correct
working code doesn't seem to matter to you anyway...
(I think "Europe/Kiev" is Greece but I don't know)
from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
import time
import pytz
def is_dst(zonename):
tz = pytz.timezone(zonename)
now = pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
return now.astimezone(tz).dst() != timedelta(0)
def dst_greece():
if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
diff = 2
else:
diff = 3
return diff
lastvisit = (datetime.utcnow() +timedelta(hours=dst_greece())).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
On 12 November 2013 10:15, Ferrous Cranus mailto:nikos.gr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
alter the line manually when time changes?
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format
Thanks.
Example:
#check if date entered as intented, format it properly for MySQL
lastvisit = datetime.strptime(lastvisit, '%d %m
%Y').strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
The above code gets the datetime string in a specific way and then
convert it to another format. All happens in one line clear and simple.
Now, in the following statement there shopuld be some way to check
for daylight saving time so i would aboiut add +2 in winter or +3
for greek summer time.
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' ) # MySQL datetime format
I think + timedelta(hours=2) should be substituted with something
else but i don't with what.
--
https://mail.python.org/__mailman/listinfo/python-list
this requires a function to be declared while i just want just an
argument inside timedelta( ) that will automatically detect DST or not.
No function declaration but instead something like:
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta( some_arg_here_that_can
detect greece's_DST_or_not) ).strftime) '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
# MySQL datetime format
--
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Re: datetime question
Firstly , I should clarify I have no idea how to program python, I joined
this mailing list in anticipation of learning soon. And thought I'd have a
go playing around with your code and code given to you (worst possible
place to start, I'm sure)
But from the answers already given to you, this seems to work and as you
requested, in reality, this keeps your code to 1 line...
I'm sure this is wrong, and isn't what you want, but hey, Correct working
code doesn't seem to matter to you anyway...
(I think "Europe/Kiev" is Greece but I don't know)
from datetime import datetime, time, timedelta
import time
import pytz
def is_dst(zonename):
tz = pytz.timezone(zonename)
now = pytz.utc.localize(datetime.utcnow())
return now.astimezone(tz).dst() != timedelta(0)
def dst_greece():
if is_dst("Europe/Kiev") :
diff = 2
else:
diff = 3
return diff
lastvisit = (datetime.utcnow() +timedelta(hours=dst_greece())).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )
On 12 November 2013 10:15, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
>
>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
>>
>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
>> alter the line manually when time changes?
>>
>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>
>
> Example:
>
> #check if date entered as intented, format it properly for MySQL
> lastvisit = datetime.strptime(lastvisit, '%d %m %Y').strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
>
> The above code gets the datetime string in a specific way and then convert
> it to another format. All happens in one line clear and simple.
>
> Now, in the following statement there shopuld be some way to check for
> daylight saving time so i would aboiut add +2 in winter or +3 for greek
> summer time.
>
>
> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d
> %H:%M:%S' ) # MySQL datetime format
>
> I think + timedelta(hours=2) should be substituted with something else but
> i don't with what.
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Re: datetime question
Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε:
Is there someway to write the following line even better with the
ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to
alter the line manually when time changes?
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format
Thanks.
Example:
#check if date entered as intented, format it properly for MySQL
lastvisit = datetime.strptime(lastvisit, '%d %m %Y').strftime('%Y-%m-%d')
The above code gets the datetime string in a specific way and then
convert it to another format. All happens in one line clear and simple.
Now, in the following statement there shopuld be some way to check for
daylight saving time so i would aboiut add +2 in winter or +3 for greek
summer time.
lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime(
'%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' ) # MySQL datetime format
I think + timedelta(hours=2) should be substituted with something else
but i don't with what.
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Re: datetime question
On 12/11/2013 07:25, alex23 wrote:
On 12/11/2013 2:49 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and
Imperial whitespace. Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably
assume American...
>>> sys.getsizeof(' ')
34
>>> sys.getsizeof(u' ')
52
bad by design
Don't you start :)
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Re: datetime question
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:25 PM, alex23 wrote:
> On 12/11/2013 2:49 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and
>> Imperial whitespace. Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably
>> assume American...
>
>
sys.getsizeof(' ')
> 34
sys.getsizeof(u' ')
> 52
>
> bad by design
Yeah, but the proper way to delimit whitespace is with parentheses,
not quotes. Look:
>>> sys.getsizeof(( ))
28
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Re: datetime question
On 12/11/2013 2:49 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and
Imperial whitespace. Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably
assume American...
>>> sys.getsizeof(' ')
34
>>> sys.getsizeof(u' ')
52
bad by design
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Re: datetime question
On 2013-11-11, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 11/11/2013 23:21, mm0fmf wrote: >> On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote: >>> On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, ?? ?? wrote: >> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( >> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format > Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust > itself if DST happens? Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from posting it. >>> >>> Boy, are you in luck! I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down >>> ascii white-space at bargain basement prices! >> >> Is that metric or imperial whitespace? >> >> You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe. > > Except for the UK, our multi-national approach means that both imperial > and metric whitespace are acceptable. Don't forget that there are also some differences between American and Imperial whitespace. Since it's ASCII whitespace, you should probably assume American... -- Grant -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > Of course, I'm spoiled... My /watch/ has a dial for UTC, along with > one > for 24-hour indication (one hand, range 1 to 24) Heh. Mine doesn't, so I bought myself a second watch and set it to UTC. So my left hand has local time (changes at DST breaks, changes when I travel internationally), and my right hand has UTC (never changes). ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 11/11/2013 23:21, mm0fmf wrote: On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote: On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust itself if DST happens? Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from posting it. Boy, are you in luck! I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down ascii white-space at bargain basement prices! Is that metric or imperial whitespace? You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe. Except for the UK, our multi-national approach means that both imperial and metric whitespace are acceptable. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 11/11/2013 19:39, Ethan Furman wrote: On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust itself if DST happens? Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from posting it. Boy, are you in luck! I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down ascii white-space at bargain basement prices! Is that metric or imperial whitespace? You need metric whitespace for programs written in Europe. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM, wrote: > On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:06:33 PM UTC-7, Joel Goldstick wrote: >> rurpy? can you help? > > No, sorry. For your future reference, if there is a > question I can help with (have the technical knowledge, > haven't seen a good answer yet, have time, etc) I will > post my attempt at an answer. > > So lack of such a response is a pretty good clue that > I can't help at the current time, and there is no need > to ping me explicitly. I guess the word ping can make sense as to bring attention to a particular person. I believed I responded on the mailing list. > > I do appreciate your "genuine" concern for Nikos and > that he gets a good answer though. So, since you don't like to be emailed directly, (I'm guessing), I will respond here. Its nice that an occasional participant sticks up and sees the bright of side of that particular OP. My answer was an attempt at humor, specifically for you Rurpy, since after your splendid defense of the OP, he returned to the pattern of asking a question, getting a good answer, then replying with a reply like "no, I want a one liner". Then, starting a new thread and asking the same question again. I don't think the idea of a mailing list or news group is to spoon feed anyone code. That is what you pay someone to do. If you want advice and guidance, its polite to try to learn from it, and move the conversation forward. have a nice day > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:06:33 PM UTC-7, Joel Goldstick wrote: > rurpy? can you help? No, sorry. For your future reference, if there is a question I can help with (have the technical knowledge, haven't seen a good answer yet, have time, etc) I will post my attempt at an answer. So lack of such a response is a pretty good clue that I can't help at the current time, and there is no need to ping me explicitly. I do appreciate your "genuine" concern for Nikos and that he gets a good answer though. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 2013-11-11, Ethan Furman wrote: > On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote: >> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, ?? ?? wrote: >> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format >> >>> Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust >>> itself if DST happens? >> >> Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from >> posting it. > > Boy, are you in luck! I just happen to have a whole heap of marked > down ascii white-space at bargain basement prices! Careful, a lot of the cheap imported whitespace was made with toxic lead carbonate instead of the non-toxic titatium oxide that should be used... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'd like MY data-base at JULIENNED and stir-fried! gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 11/11/2013 11:19 AM, Denis McMahon wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust itself if DST happens? Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from posting it. Boy, are you in luck! I just happen to have a whole heap of marked down ascii white-space at bargain basement prices! -- ~Ethan~ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:57:36 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: >> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( >> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format > Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust > itself if DST happens? Yes, but the scarcity of universal whitespace is preventing me from posting it. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
So this is a physics joke. The engineers and physicists at the conference went to dinner. They ordered wine with dinner. The wait person asked: "Would you like the small liter, or the large liter?" -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > We've got a data supplier who (for reasons I cannot fathom), runs their > network in local time. Every time we talk to them about problems, it's > a mess just trying to figure out what time we're talking about. We say, > "we saw a latency spike at 2243 UTC, what caused that?", and then we > play 20-questions trying to figure out if that's 1443 PDT, or 1543 PST, > or who knows what. Further complicated by them occasionally asking us > off-the-wall questions like, "Is that UTC daylight savings time?" UGH. Yes. I get the same thing from some of the US players in my Dungeons & Dragons campaign. To avoid the hassles of international times, everything's scheduled in UTC; the Aussies, the Europeans, and _some of_ the Americans an handle it, but there are a few who keep asking me crazy questions about DST and UTC. I'm like... no, there is no daylight time! Just look at the current UTC time and see how that compares! There's even a command in-game that shows current UTC time. Fortunately, those people are in the minority. Most of the players can handle the time conversions. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
In article , Joel Goldstick wrote: > Why not display UTC? If it is so important to you to display local > time, why do you think that your host's local time is something that > is useful for a visitor? In general, it makes sense to run servers (and log everything) in UTC, and display local time to your users. The idea is to do the conversion (in both directions) as close to the user as possible (which, for a web application, means a little piece of javascript right in the browser). It seems like extra work, but, trust me, it will preserve your sanity eventually. We've got a data supplier who (for reasons I cannot fathom), runs their network in local time. Every time we talk to them about problems, it's a mess just trying to figure out what time we're talking about. We say, "we saw a latency spike at 2243 UTC, what caused that?", and then we play 20-questions trying to figure out if that's 1443 PDT, or 1543 PST, or who knows what. Further complicated by them occasionally asking us off-the-wall questions like, "Is that UTC daylight savings time?" -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: > Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε: > >> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the >> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to >> alter the line manually when time changes? >> >> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( >> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format >> >> Thanks. > > > > Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust itself Three days ago Mark Lawrence pointed you to a stack overflow answer to your question. While it didn't suit your demand for a single line answer, it could easily be made into a function which returned the string format that you requested. You've been around long enough to try to work that out for yourself. If you yourself had returned with a one liner to perform what Mark showed you, I can imagine a lot of people would be impressed at your dedication! I think you are oversimplifying the problem. I recall that you server is in Germany, and you are in Greece. If these are two different time zones, I am guessing that the German time will be given. Also, any linux user who runs package updates regularly (thinking Ubuntu) realizes that some file that starts with tz gets changed quite often. This is because time zones are set by governments, and the date of change from standard to daylight time can be differently, depending upon the location and the governing body. I pose this question to you: Why not display UTC? If it is so important to you to display local time, why do you think that your host's local time is something that is useful for a visitor? Daylight savings time is more complicated that you have suggested > if DST happens? If you insist upon displaying the local time of your server, you should not be hardcoding in a 2 hour difference. Let the python library figure out the delta by giving the country code > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 8/11/2013 11:11 μμ, ο/η Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος έγραψε: Is there someway to write the following line even better with the ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to alter the line manually when time changes? lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Thanks. Someone has an idea what to add to this line to automatically adjust itself if DST happens? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 15:43:53 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: > Στις 9/11/2013 2:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: >> On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: >>> Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: > I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. >>> >>> Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just >>> found: >>> >>> You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. >>> >>> The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. >> >> Why is Web Security for Dummies missing? >> >> > > It's not missing. > Its there, check again. > Just click on the Blue download button and select it from the list of > buttons. Try Reading IT! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sunday 10 November 2013 04:06:06 Chris Angelico did opine: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine: > >> :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the > >> > >> whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven > >> D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :) > > > > And likely not fully gleaned yet. :) To all of you, thats some of the > > better creative writing I've read in my 79 years. ;-) > > Are you going to have a newyear after next year and start over with > Year 1 again? > Nah. I tried to put it off as long as I could, but times arrow, dammit, only points forward. I might as well get used to it. From that famous line about death and taxes, taxes will of course outlive me. Being a DM-II, I of course haven't a shred of warranty left. Just up to pee and check on that falling satellite, I could fall over walking the 20 feet back to bed, but I'm going to do it anyway... ;-) > ChrisA Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) $100 invested at 7% interest for 100 years will become $100,000, at which time it will be worth absolutely nothing. -- Lazarus Long, "Time Enough for Love" A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine: >> :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the >> whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven >> D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :) > > And likely not fully gleaned yet. :) To all of you, thats some of the > better creative writing I've read in my 79 years. ;-) Are you going to have a newyear after next year and start over with Year 1 again? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Saturday 09 November 2013 19:52:52 Chris Angelico did opine: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off. Fortunately there > > are kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to > > read, or more usually skip. > > > > Then one of you frustrated standup comics comes along, and gives me a > > VBG, and its suddenly all worth it. Thank You Chris. > : > :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the > > whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven > D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :) And likely not fully gleaned yet. :) To all of you, thats some of the better creative writing I've read in my 79 years. ;-) > But hey. If you're going to have to read backscatter, may as well make > it funny... Precisely. > ChrisA Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) A Difficulty for Every Solution. -- Motto of the Federal Civil Service A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off. Fortunately there are > kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to read, or > more usually skip. > > Then one of you frustrated standup comics comes along, and gives me a VBG, > and its suddenly all worth it. Thank You Chris. :) Don't just thank me, Grant and Roy were key to it too - and the whole "there's no shortage of newlines" thing started with Steven D'Aprano (I think), and it's a ripe field for harvest :) But hey. If you're going to have to read backscatter, may as well make it funny... ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Saturday 09 November 2013 10:33:57 Chris Angelico did opine: > On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > It's that global newline shortage again. Just because a few people > > get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike... > > It's a conspiracy! The government kills a few miners (with their > contrail mind-control stuffo) to push the price of newlines up, then > taxes us to the hilt and claims it's to fund development of artificial > newlines in labs! I tell you, man, those artificial newlines may LOOK > the same, but mark my words, one day they're all gonna rise up and > murder us in their sleep... > > ChrisA > been up all night and is starting to get stupid Ya know, folks like Nick would have me signing off. Fortunately there are kill files. But the backscatter he creates I am still forced to read, or more usually skip. This list recently has been far more about venting because GG is broken, or Nicks un-teachability than about real code, by a large margin. Then one of you frustrated standup comics comes along, and gives me a VBG, and its suddenly all worth it. Thank You Chris. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Hark, the Herald Tribune sings, Advertising wondrous things. Angels we have heard on High Tell us to go out and Buy. -- Tom Lehrer A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
In article , Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > It's that global newline shortage again. Just because a few people > > get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike... > > It's a conspiracy! The government kills a few miners (with their > contrail mind-control stuffo) to push the price of newlines up, then > taxes us to the hilt and claims it's to fund development of artificial > newlines in labs! I tell you, man, those artificial newlines may LOOK > the same, but mark my words, one day they're all gonna rise up and > murder us in their sleep... I only use organic, free-range, fair-traded newlines in my code. Have you ever seen what happens on those big commercial whitespace farms? The newlines are kept in justified lines, smashed up against the right margin so close they can't even move, and forced to eat recycled EBCDIC punctuation! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > It's that global newline shortage again. Just because a few people > get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike... It's a conspiracy! The government kills a few miners (with their contrail mind-control stuffo) to push the price of newlines up, then taxes us to the hilt and claims it's to fund development of artificial newlines in labs! I tell you, man, those artificial newlines may LOOK the same, but mark my words, one day they're all gonna rise up and murder us in their sleep... ChrisA been up all night and is starting to get stupid -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 9/11/2013 2:45 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just found: You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. Why is Web Security for Dummies missing? It's not missing. Its there, check again. Just click on the Blue download button and select it from the list of buttons. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Why is Web Security for Dummies missing? Because a Dummy can host a web (all you have to do is invite a spider into your house and let it do the work), but he won't be able to make it secure. Or, more succinctly: Because it isn't. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just found: You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. Why is Web Security for Dummies missing? -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 08/11/2013 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just found: You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/tea_leaf -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: > Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: > >> On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: >> >>> I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. >> >> >> Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. >> > > > Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just > found: > > You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. > > The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. Interesting. Your idea of a "gift" (quite different from a "git", which is grammatically valid in your usage, though not what you intended) is to offer something you stole AND which you're already giving away to anyone who comes to your web site. This is your incentive to us to write your code for you. Actually, I think offering people free stolen bile for dummies is a great business model. Nobody else is trying that! If you want to offer something tempting, it's most likely going to be money, and quite a bit of it, as stated in another thread. Plus, you'll actually have to respect someone's design choices. Good luck on that. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 2013-11-08 23:02, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just found: You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. Please do not advertise your piracy site here. It is not welcome in this forum. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 9/11/2013 12:49 πμ, ο/η Denis McMahon έγραψε: On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. Please tell me and as a git i will provide you with 2 good pdfs i just found: You can see them at my website if you click the blue download button. The 1st is a Linux Bile and the 2nd is WebHosting for Dummies. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:01:37 +0200, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: > I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Yes, but you have to rewrite all your code in perl to do this. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 2013-11-08, ?? ?? wrote: >>> Is there someway to [...] >> http://stackoverflow.com/[...] > I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. > Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement > and i want to retain it this way. It's that global newline shortage again. Just because a few people get killed in a newline mine they all go on strike... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Mary Tyler Moore's at SEVENTH HUSBAND is wearing gmail.commy DACRON TANK TOP in a cheap hotel in HONOLULU! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 08/11/2013 22:01, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Στις 8/11/2013 11:29 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Is there someway to write the following line even better with the ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to alter the line manually when time changes? lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Thanks. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement and i want to retain it this way. Is it possible? Yes, but I'll leave you to work out how to do it, on the grounds that I have a very, very strong suspicion about the way this thread is going to go. -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
rurpy? can you help? On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: > Στις 8/11/2013 11:29 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: >> >> On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: >>> >>> Is there someway to write the following line even better with the >>> ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to >>> alter the line manually when time changes? >>> >>> lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( >>> '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> >> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time >> >> > > > I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. > Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement and i > want to retain it this way. > > Is it possible? > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Στις 8/11/2013 11:29 μμ, ο/η Mark Lawrence έγραψε: On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Is there someway to write the following line even better with the ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to alter the line manually when time changes? lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Thanks. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time I saw the link and i'm wondering if it can be written in 1-liner. Don't get me wrong but i had the lastvisit calculated on 1 statement and i want to retain it this way. Is it possible? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On 08/11/2013 21:11, Νίκος Αλεξόπουλος wrote: Is there someway to write the following line even better with the ability to detect daylight saving time by itself so i don't have to alter the line manually when time changes? lastvisit = ( datetime.utcnow() + timedelta(hours=2) ).strftime( '%y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S' )# MySQL datetime format Thanks. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19774709/use-python-to-find-out-if-a-timezone-currently-in-daylight-savings-time -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Albert Hopkins writes: > No, I meant "cleaning up the standard library in spite of > incompatibilities" was one of the goals of Python3 (PEP 3108). Ah, okay. That PEP is “Standard Library Reorganization” http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3108/>, and is specifically about removing or renaming modules to “clean up” the library. I don't think it applies to this conversation, which is not about renaming nor removing modules. > Personally I don't see anything wrong with the modules, but that was > my question to the person who said they should all be integrated but > wasn't because of incompatibilities. The changes I'm suggesting would be necessary are to the behaviour of the ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ modules: the types they consume and produce would be unified. They're not now, which would represent an incompatible API change, not covered by PEP 3108 nor any Python 2→3 PEP to my knowledge. -- \ “Alternative explanations are always welcome in science, if | `\ they are better and explain more. Alternative explanations that | _o__) explain nothing are not welcome.” —Victor J. Stenger, 2001-11-05 | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Thanks, Rami, that will work. V On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: > On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 20:34 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Fixing ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ was the reason for Python 3? > > No, it wasn't. > > > > Or perhaps you mean that any backward-incompatible change was a reason > > to have Python 3? Even more firmly no. The extent of changes was > > severely limited to make the transition from Python 2 to Python 3 as > > painless as feasible, while still meeting the goals of Python 3. > > No, I meant "cleaning up the standard library in spite of > incompatibilities" was one of the goals of Python3 (PEP 3108). > Personally I don't see anything wrong with the modules, but that was my > question to the person who said they should all be integrated but wasn't > because of incompatibilities. > > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 20:34 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Fixing ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ was the reason for Python 3? > No, it wasn't. > > Or perhaps you mean that any backward-incompatible change was a reason > to have Python 3? Even more firmly no. The extent of changes was > severely limited to make the transition from Python 2 to Python 3 as > painless as feasible, while still meeting the goals of Python 3. No, I meant "cleaning up the standard library in spite of incompatibilities" was one of the goals of Python3 (PEP 3108). Personally I don't see anything wrong with the modules, but that was my question to the person who said they should all be integrated but wasn't because of incompatibilities. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Albert Hopkins writes: > On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 10:08 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Yes, it would be nice if the ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ > > modules were all much more unified and consumed a common set of > > primitive date+time types. It's a wart, and fixing it would > > (unfortunately) probably require backward-incompatible API changes. > > But, supposedly, that's why we had Python3. Fixing ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ was the reason for Python 3? No, it wasn't. Or perhaps you mean that any backward-incompatible change was a reason to have Python 3? Even more firmly no. The extent of changes was severely limited to make the transition from Python 2 to Python 3 as painless as feasible, while still meeting the goals of Python 3. -- \“Odious ideas are not entitled to hide from criticism behind | `\ the human shield of their believers' feelings.” —Richard | _o__) Stallman | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 10:08 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > The ‘datetime’ module focusses on individual date+time values (and the > periods between them, with the ‘timedelta’ type). > > For querying the properties of the calendar, use the ‘calendar’ > module. > > Yes, it would be nice if the ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ > modules > were all much more unified and consumed a common set of primitive > date+time types. It's a wart, and fixing it would (unfortunately) > probably require backward-incompatible API changes. > But, supposedly, that's why we had Python3. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Victor Subervi writes: > What I need to calculate is the length of days in the given month. How > do I do that? The ‘datetime’ module focusses on individual date+time values (and the periods between them, with the ‘timedelta’ type). For querying the properties of the calendar, use the ‘calendar’ module. Yes, it would be nice if the ‘time’, ‘datetime’, and ‘calendar’ modules were all much more unified and consumed a common set of primitive date+time types. It's a wart, and fixing it would (unfortunately) probably require backward-incompatible API changes. -- \“Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability.” —Edsger W. | `\ Dijkstra | _o__) | Ben Finney -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:03:32 -0700, Victor Subervi wrote: Hi; I have this code: today = datetime.date.today() day = today.day mo = today.month yr = today.year Works great. What I need to calculate is the length of days in the given month. How do I do that? TIA, Victor Off the top of my head: You could calculate it fairly easily by subtracting a datetime object representing the first of this month from a datetime object representing the first of next month; that'd give you a timedelta object with the number of days. Alternatively, of course, you could look up the number of days in the current month using the calendar module ;-) -- Rami Chowdhury "Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity" -- Hanlon's Razor 408-597-7068 (US) / 07875-841-046 (UK) / 0189-245544 (BD) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:24 AM, wrote:
> Just curious if this is the best way to get the first 3 letters of the
> current month?
>
import datetime
d = datetime.date.today()
m = d.strftime("%B")[:3].upper()
m
> 'MAR'
I believe you want the lowercase version, "%b" (Locale’s abbreviated
month name):
>>> import datetime
>>> datetime.date.today().strftime("%b")
'Mar'
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Re: Datetime question
Ah, true. Sorry. I got thrown by the ouput after the line got executed and assumed it was the value of a. thanks, Rama On 03/08/06, Simon Brunning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/3/06, Rama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious why when> I call id(a) I get the same id after I call the replace method.In your example, you called a's replace() method, but did nothing withthe new datetime object that it returned. The original object, a, naturally still has the same ID, but it also still has the same value.--Cheers,Simon B,[EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
On 8/3/06, Rama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious why when > I call id(a) I get the same id after I call the replace method. In your example, you called a's replace() method, but did nothing with the new datetime object that it returned. The original object, a, naturally still has the same ID, but it also still has the same value. -- Cheers, Simon B, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
datetime objects are immutable. You can't change the value of anexisting datetime object, only create a new one. Um.. then how do I get the same ID when I call the replace method? >>> a = datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000)>>> b = a + datetime.timedelta(days=-2, hours=-4)>> >>> id(a)21838592>>> id(b) 21836312>>> a.replace(day=a.day + 1)datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 13, 10, 13, 56, 609000)>>> id(a)21838592>>> thanks, Rama -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
On 8/3/06, Rama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But wont this create a new object? Whereas if you want to modify the same > object, should we not be using replace? Or does it not matter in the global > picture? datetime objects are immutable. You can't change the value of an existing datetime object, only create a new one. -- Cheers, Simon B, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.brunningonline.net/simon/blog/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
> In a datetime object I would like to change days and hours.you'd been pointed to the resources yesterday - please read manuals carefully!a = datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000)b = a + datetime.timedelta(days=-2, hours=-4) But wont this create a new object? Whereas if you want to modify the same object, should we not be using replace? Or does it not matter in the global picture? >>> a = datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000)>>> b = a + datetime.timedelta(days=-2, hours=-4)> id(a)21838592>>> id(b) 21836312>>> a.replace(day=a.day + 1)datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 13, 10, 13, 56, 609000)>>> id(a)21838592>>> thanks, Rama -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
Lad schrieb: > In a datetime object I would like to change days and hours. > Or in other words, I would like to copy this datetime object but > increase days and hours. > Is it possible? > For example:If I have a datetime object like this > datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 3, 14, 13, 56, 609000) > > I would like to make a new ,for example like this > > datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000) > > is it possible to do so? you'd been pointed to the resources yesterday - please read manuals carefully! a = datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000) b = a + datetime.timedelta(days=-2, hours=-4) Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lad wrote: > In a datetime object I would like to change days and hours. > Or in other words, I would like to copy this datetime object but > increase days and hours. > Is it possible? > For example:If I have a datetime object like this > datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 3, 14, 13, 56, 609000) > > I would like to make a new ,for example like this > > datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000) > > is it possible to do so? Yes it is, just add a `timedelta` object: In [18]: a = datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 3, 14, 13, 56, 609000) In [19]: a + datetime.timedelta(days=8, hours=20) Out[19]: datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000) Ciao, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Datetime question
the datetime object appears to have a replace method which could achieve what you want to do, albeith with some computation from your end first, >>> d = datetime.datetime(2006, 8, 3, 14, 13, 56, 609000)>>> dir(d)['__add__', '__class__', '__delattr__', '__doc__', '__eq__', '__ge__', '__getattribute__', '__gt__', '__hash__', '__init__', '__le__', '__lt__', '__ne__', '__ne w__', '__radd__', '__reduce__', '__reduce_ex__', '__repr__', '__rsub__', '__setattr__', '__str__', '__sub__', 'astimezone', 'combine', 'ctime', 'date', 'day', 'dst', 'fromordinal', 'fromtimestamp', 'hour', 'isocalendar', 'isoformat', 'isowe ekday', 'max', 'microsecond', 'min', 'minute', 'month', 'now', 'replace', 'resolution', 'second', 'strftime', 'time', 'timetuple', 'timetz', 'today', 'toordinal', 'tzinfo', 'tzname', 'utcfromtimestamp', 'utcnow', 'utcoffset', 'utctimetuple' , 'weekday', 'year']>>> d.replace(year=2007)datetime.datetime(2007, 8, 3, 14, 13, 56, 609000)>>> thanks, Rama On 3 Aug 2006 05:26:31 -0700, Lad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a datetime object I would like to change days and hours.Or in other words, I would like to copy this datetime object but increase days and hours.Is it possible?For example:If I have a datetime object like thisdatetime.datetime(2006, 8, 3, 14, 13, 56, 609000)I would like to make a new ,for example like thisdatetime.datetime (2006, 8, 12, 10, 13, 56, 609000)is it possible to do so?Thank youL--http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
:-) Thanks. Philippe Scott David Daniels wrote: > Jorge Godoy wrote: >> Philippe Martin wrote: >> >>> I need to get the date and time under Windows and Linux but need the >>> information visible to the user (cannot find my words) not the sytem >>> information (ex: a PC setup on greenwich but the date/time displayed are >>> relative to some other place. >> >> Something like this? >> > import datetime > datetime.datetime.now() >> ... > > Just so you (Phillipe) know, you are talking about "local time" vs. UTC. > >>> import datetime > >>> print datetime.datetime.now() # local > 2006-04-18 15:25:03.14 > >>> print datetime.datetime.utcnow() # zulu / utc / gmt > 2006-04-18 22:25:13.625000 > > --Scott David Daniels > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Jorge Godoy wrote: > Philippe Martin wrote: > >> I need to get the date and time under Windows and Linux but need the >> information visible to the user (cannot find my words) not the sytem >> information (ex: a PC setup on greenwich but the date/time displayed are >> relative to some other place. > > Something like this? > import datetime datetime.datetime.now() > ... Just so you (Phillipe) know, you are talking about "local time" vs. UTC. >>> import datetime >>> print datetime.datetime.now() # local 2006-04-18 15:25:03.14 >>> print datetime.datetime.utcnow() # zulu / utc / gmt 2006-04-18 22:25:13.625000 --Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Thanks, yes, I guess the question is ... what date/time is it looking at ? and is it the same under various OSs ? Philippe Jorge Godoy wrote: > Philippe Martin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I need to get the date and time under Windows and Linux but need the >> information visible to the user (cannot find my words) not the sytem >> information (ex: a PC setup on greenwich but the date/time displayed are >> relative to some other place. > > Something like this? > import datetime datetime.datetime.now() > datetime.datetime(2006, 4, 18, 16, 19, 42, 159000) print datetime.datetime.now() > 2006-04-18 16:19:45.245053 dir(datetime.datetime.now()) > ['__add__', '__class__', '__delattr__', '__doc__', '__eq__', '__ge__', > '__getattribute__', '__gt__', '__hash__', '__init__', '__le__', '__lt__', > '__ne__', '__new__', '__radd__', '__reduce__', '__reduce_ex__', > '__repr__', '__rsub__', '__setattr__', '__str__', '__sub__', 'astimezone', > 'combine', 'ctime', 'date', 'day', 'dst', 'fromordinal', 'fromtimestamp', > 'hour', 'isocalendar', 'isoformat', 'isoweekday', 'max', 'microsecond', > 'min', 'minute', 'month', 'now', 'replace', 'resolution', 'second', > 'strftime', 'time', 'timetuple', 'timetz', 'today', 'toordinal', 'tzinfo', > 'tzname', 'utcfromtimestamp', 'utcnow', 'utcoffset', 'utctimetuple', > 'weekday', 'year'] > > -- > Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." > - Qualquer coisa dita em latim soa profundo. > - Anything said in Latin sounds smart. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: datetime question
Philippe Martin wrote: > Hi, > > I need to get the date and time under Windows and Linux but need the > information visible to the user (cannot find my words) not the sytem > information (ex: a PC setup on greenwich but the date/time displayed are > relative to some other place. Something like this? >>> import datetime >>> datetime.datetime.now() datetime.datetime(2006, 4, 18, 16, 19, 42, 159000) >>> print datetime.datetime.now() 2006-04-18 16:19:45.245053 >>> dir(datetime.datetime.now()) ['__add__', '__class__', '__delattr__', '__doc__', '__eq__', '__ge__', '__getattribute__', '__gt__', '__hash__', '__init__', '__le__', '__lt__', '__ne__', '__new__', '__radd__', '__reduce__', '__reduce_ex__', '__repr__', '__rsub__', '__setattr__', '__str__', '__sub__', 'astimezone', 'combine', 'ctime', 'date', 'day', 'dst', 'fromordinal', 'fromtimestamp', 'hour', 'isocalendar', 'isoformat', 'isoweekday', 'max', 'microsecond', 'min', 'minute', 'month', 'now', 'replace', 'resolution', 'second', 'strftime', 'time', 'timetuple', 'timetz', 'today', 'toordinal', 'tzinfo', 'tzname', 'utcfromtimestamp', 'utcnow', 'utcoffset', 'utctimetuple', 'weekday', 'year'] >>> -- Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." - Qualquer coisa dita em latim soa profundo. - Anything said in Latin sounds smart. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
