Re: Aw: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-25 Thread Carl Banks
On Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:42:45 AM UTC-7, David Zerrenner wrote:
 *pew* I can't live without the docs, that really made my day now.

If you can't live without the docs, you should consider downloading them and 
accessing them locally.  That'll let you work whenever python.org goes down, 
and will help keep the load off the server when it's up.


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Aw: Re: Aw: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-25 Thread David Zerrenner
Carl Banks wrote:
 If you can't live without the docs, you should consider downloading them and 
 accessing them locally.  That'll let you work whenever python.org goes down, 
 and will help keep the load off the server when it's up.

Thanks for the pointer, i did not realize that until now... These days of 
always-on internet corrupted me so much.

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Re: Aw: Re: Aw: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-25 Thread hackingKK
Infact the  first thing I ever did  with documentation on Python was to 
download it.
yes you are not uptodate but you can always do a download once in a 
while rather than putting load on the server every time you want to 
lookup a function reference.

Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On 25/07/11 14:32, David Zerrenner wrote:

Carl Banks wrote:

If you can't live without the docs, you should consider downloading them and 
accessing them locally.  That'll let you work whenever python.org goes down, 
and will help keep the load off the server when it's up.

Thanks for the pointer, i did not realize that until now... These days of 
always-on internet corrupted me so much.



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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-25 Thread SigmundV
On Jul 24, 8:43 am, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:
 Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
 computers. I cannot even ping it.

Whenever a page can't be accessed, although your connection is good,
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is a good site to check.


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Re: Aw: Re: Aw: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-25 Thread Terry Reedy

On 7/25/2011 7:25 AM, hackingKK wrote:

Infact the first thing I ever did with documentation on Python was to
download it.
yes you are not uptodate but you can always do a download once in a
while rather than putting load on the server every time you want to
lookup a function reference.
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On 25/07/11 14:32, David Zerrenner wrote:

Carl Banks wrote:

If you can't live without the docs, you should consider downloading
them and accessing them locally. That'll let you work whenever
python.org goes down, and will help keep the load off the server when
it's up.

Thanks for the pointer, i did not realize that until now... These days
of always-on internet corrupted me so much.


The windows distribution comes with the docs bundled in a windows help 
file, updated with each bug fix release. Is there really no *nix 
equivalent that could be used or is this one area where windows really wins?


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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-25 Thread Tim Chase

On 07/25/2011 11:45 AM, SigmundV wrote:

On Jul 24, 8:43 am, Laszlo Nagygand...@shopzeus.com  wrote:

Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
computers. I cannot even ping it.


Whenever a page can't be accessed, although your connection is good,
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ is a good site to check.


The problem is when www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com goes 
down...do you then go to 
www.isdownforeveryoneorjustmedownforeveryoneorjustme.com


? :-)

-tkc




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Re: Aw: Re: Aw: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-25 Thread Ned Deily
In article j0k8er$itl$1...@dough.gmane.org,
 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
 The windows distribution comes with the docs bundled in a windows help 
 file, updated with each bug fix release. Is there really no *nix 
 equivalent that could be used or is this one area where windows really wins?

Most *nix distributions provide an optional doc package for each of the 
Python versions they support, for instance, in Debian:

$ aptitude search 'python[23].*-doc$'
p   python2.6-doc  
p   python2.7-doc 
p   python3-doc 
p   python3.1-doc
p   python3.2-doc 

Also each python.org Mac OS X installers includes a copy of the 
documentation for its version, in HTML format the same as the on-line 
versions.  The docs are easily accessible through a menu item in each 
version of IDLE.  And recent versions of the installer also include a 
clickable link to the docs in each /Applications/Python x.y folder.

One advantage of the on-line versions is that they are updated daily 
with the latest fixes to the documentation.

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 n...@acm.org

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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread Colin J. Williams

On 24-Jul-11 03:43 AM, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
computers. I cannot even ping it.


The same for me at Noon EST

Holland where are you?

Colin W.

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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread David Zerrenner
Same here for me. My traceroute seems to hang somewhere in the Netherlands.
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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread Yash Tulsyan
David Zerrenner da...@bluenode.de writes:

 Same here for me. My traceroute seems to hang somewhere in the Netherlands.
Confirmed here as well.
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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread Anna Vester
On Jul 24, 2011 2:43 AM, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:

 Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
computers. I cannot even ping it.

Looks like it is down for everyone according to this site:
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ .

Anna
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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Anna Vester vean...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jul 24, 2011 2:43 AM, Laszlo Nagy gand...@shopzeus.com wrote:

 Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
 computers. I cannot even ping it.

 Looks like it is down for everyone according to this site:
 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ .

DNS is fine, and mail.python.org (which hosts the list archives etc)
is perfectly accessible. Looks like either the server's gone down
hard, or something's being changed (new IP, not yet set up in DNS?).

CC'd to the tech contact from whois, which is also the contact address
listed in the SOA record.

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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread Stefan Behnel

Laszlo Nagy, 24.07.2011 09:43:

Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
computers. I cannot even ping it.


What's even worse is that PyPI is extremely slow in responding, even up to 
connection failures. I can live with www.python.org being down for a bit, 
but PyPI is a serious piece of infrastructure to many users.


Stefan

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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
 Laszlo Nagy, 24.07.2011 09:43:

 Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
 computers. I cannot even ping it.

 What's even worse is that PyPI is extremely slow in responding, even up to
 connection failures. I can live with www.python.org being down for a bit,
 but PyPI is a serious piece of infrastructure to many users.

pypi.python.org pages seem to reference ancillary components from
www.python.org, so the latter being down causes delays on the former.
You could cut it off by creating a hosts entry pointing www.python.org
to 127.0.0.1 or something - it'd fail more quickly that way.

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python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-24 Thread Terry Reedy

On 7/24/2011 3:43 AM, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
computers. I cannot even ping it.


python.org, bugs.python.org, docs.python.org, pypi.python.org
all work for me now.

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Re: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-24 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:34 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
 On 7/24/2011 3:43 AM, Laszlo Nagy wrote:

 Can it be a problem on my side? I have tried from several different
 computers. I cannot even ping it.

 python.org, bugs.python.org, docs.python.org, pypi.python.org
 all work for me now.

Yep, all up again. Yay!

ChrisA
who has a distinct aversion downtime and outages, especially his own
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Aw: python.org back up ?(was Re: python.org is down?)

2011-07-24 Thread David Zerrenner
*pew* I can't live without the docs, that really made my day now. 
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Re: python.org is down?

2011-07-24 Thread shbk background
ukraine, connection was lost also...
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