Re: pyxpcom

2006-11-29 Thread hg
Trent Mick wrote:
 My need is as follows: I have developed an activex component to access a
 smart card on the client side / do some web site logon.

 Are xpcom / pyxpcom advanced/stable enough for such an implementation
 under Linux / Windows ?
 
 You mean to provide the equivalent functionality for Firefox that your
 activex component does for IE? Yes, xpcom and pyxpcom are quite stable,
 however putting together a Firefox extension that gets PyXPCOM itself up
 and running in a client's Firefox install will be quite challenging.
 
 Trent
 
Exactly ... are you saying I need to distribute Firefox compiled
differently in order to achieve that ?

This is less a python issue clearly if that is the case: would I have
the same issues to resolve if I were to write the module in C++ ?

Thanks,

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Re: pyxpcom

2006-11-29 Thread Trent Mick
hg wrote:
 Trent Mick wrote:
 My need is as follows: I have developed an activex component to access a
 smart card on the client side / do some web site logon.

 Are xpcom / pyxpcom advanced/stable enough for such an implementation
 under Linux / Windows ?
 You mean to provide the equivalent functionality for Firefox that your
 activex component does for IE? Yes, xpcom and pyxpcom are quite stable,
 however putting together a Firefox extension that gets PyXPCOM itself up
 and running in a client's Firefox install will be quite challenging.

 Trent

 Exactly ... are you saying I need to distribute Firefox compiled
 differently in order to achieve that ?

No. But you'll have to get comfortable building your own Firefox and then 
building the PyXPCOM extension and then packaging the built PyXPCOM bits that 
a normal Firefox install does not have already into a Firefox extension. This 
would also mean packaging up parts of a Python build and possible needing to 
have a custom Python build to (1) get shared library loading to work correct 
and (2) ensure there isn't crosstalk between the python that PyXPCOM uses and 
possibly other Python installations on the target machine.

 This is less a python issue clearly if that is the case: would I have
 the same issues to resolve if I were to write the module in C++ ?

A little, yes: I believe you'd need a Firefox build in a development tree to 
build a vanilla C++ XPCOM component. However, I am not sure of that.

Mostly, no: You wouldn't need to worry about all the PyXPCOM/Python 
build/install issues.


Trent

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Re: pyxpcom

2006-11-29 Thread hg
Trent Mick wrote:
 hg wrote:
 Trent Mick wrote:
 My need is as follows: I have developed an activex component to
 access a
 smart card on the client side / do some web site logon.

 Are xpcom / pyxpcom advanced/stable enough for such an implementation
 under Linux / Windows ?
 You mean to provide the equivalent functionality for Firefox that your
 activex component does for IE? Yes, xpcom and pyxpcom are quite stable,
 however putting together a Firefox extension that gets PyXPCOM itself up
 and running in a client's Firefox install will be quite challenging.

 Trent

 Exactly ... are you saying I need to distribute Firefox compiled
 differently in order to achieve that ?
 
 No. But you'll have to get comfortable building your own Firefox and
 then building the PyXPCOM extension and then packaging the built PyXPCOM
 bits that a normal Firefox install does not have already into a Firefox
 extension. This would also mean packaging up parts of a Python build and
 possible needing to have a custom Python build to (1) get shared library
 loading to work correct and (2) ensure there isn't crosstalk between the
 python that PyXPCOM uses and possibly other Python installations on the
 target machine.
 
 This is less a python issue clearly if that is the case: would I have
 the same issues to resolve if I were to write the module in C++ ?
 
 A little, yes: I believe you'd need a Firefox build in a development
 tree to build a vanilla C++ XPCOM component. However, I am not sure of
 that.
 
 Mostly, no: You wouldn't need to worry about all the PyXPCOM/Python
 build/install issues.
 
 
 Trent
 
Thanks Trent,

I'll do some testing and bug Mark in the process I'm sure  :-)

Regards,

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Re: pyxpcom

2006-11-28 Thread Trent Mick
hg wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Can one tell me what the status of this project is ?. I did google ...
 but not much out there.

PyXPCOM source is in the main Mozilla CVS tree. It is being maintained by Mark 
Hammond (the original developer of the extension). There isn't a lot of 
activity on it, I think, because:
1. Mark did such a good job of implementing it the first time around that it 
needs very little work :)
2. It is very high learning curve to get into playing with PyXPCOM because 
there are no conveniently packaged builds of PyXPCOM for current (or any) 
versions of Firefox or Mozilla.

Interestingly, Mark is currently working *full* support for Python in the 
Mozilla code base, i.e. being able to use Python anywhere you can currently 
use JavaScript (in script tags in XUL and HTML). Look for nsdom and 
Python. Note that it is still very much in development phase, is only part of 
the Mozilla trunk (I believe) -- hence only really applies to Firefox versions 
well beyond FF2.

The pyxpcom mailing list is here:
http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/pyxpcom

PyXPCOM is heavily used in Komodo 
(http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/, the IDE that I work on at 
ActiveState).

Regarding #2 (from above): Mark started some discussion a while back about the 
  what it would take to provide builds of PyXPCOM. The answer is that it would 
probably be very hard.
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pyxpcom/3167613


Cheers,
Trent

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Re: pyxpcom

2006-11-28 Thread hg
Trent Mick wrote:
 hg wrote:
 Hi,

 Can one tell me what the status of this project is ?. I did google ...
 but not much out there.
 
 PyXPCOM source is in the main Mozilla CVS tree. It is being maintained
 by Mark Hammond (the original developer of the extension). There isn't a
 lot of activity on it, I think, because:
 1. Mark did such a good job of implementing it the first time around
 that it needs very little work :)
 2. It is very high learning curve to get into playing with PyXPCOM
 because there are no conveniently packaged builds of PyXPCOM for current
 (or any) versions of Firefox or Mozilla.
 
 Interestingly, Mark is currently working *full* support for Python in
 the Mozilla code base, i.e. being able to use Python anywhere you can
 currently use JavaScript (in script tags in XUL and HTML). Look for
 nsdom and Python. Note that it is still very much in development
 phase, is only part of the Mozilla trunk (I believe) -- hence only
 really applies to Firefox versions well beyond FF2.
 
 The pyxpcom mailing list is here:
 http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/pyxpcom
 
 PyXPCOM is heavily used in Komodo
 (http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/, the IDE that I work on
 at ActiveState).
 
 Regarding #2 (from above): Mark started some discussion a while back
 about the  what it would take to provide builds of PyXPCOM. The answer
 is that it would probably be very hard.
 http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pyxpcom/3167613
 
 
 Cheers,
 Trent
 
Thanks,

My need is as follows: I have developed an activex component to access a
smart card on the client side / do some web site logon.

Are xpcom / pyxpcom advanced/stable enough for such an implementation
under Linux / Windows ?

Regards,

hg




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Re: pyxpcom

2006-11-28 Thread Trent Mick
 My need is as follows: I have developed an activex component to access a
 smart card on the client side / do some web site logon.
 
 Are xpcom / pyxpcom advanced/stable enough for such an implementation
 under Linux / Windows ?

You mean to provide the equivalent functionality for Firefox that your activex 
component does for IE? Yes, xpcom and pyxpcom are quite stable, however 
putting together a Firefox extension that gets PyXPCOM itself up and running 
in a client's Firefox install will be quite challenging.

Trent

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Re: pyxpcom and firefox

2005-10-25 Thread Paul Boddie
Philippe C. Martin wrote:
 I write this post here because I do not manage to get in touch with mozilla
 dev people:

[...]

 1) has anyone compiled/installed pyxpcom with firefox 1.5xx ?
 2) is there a plan to make it a .xpi (the pyxpcom xpi for mozilla does not
 install into firefox).

I can't answer these questions, unfortunately, but you may be better
off asking them on the pyxpcom mailing list:

http://listserv.activestate.com/mailman/listinfo/pyxpcom

Paul

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