Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 15:38 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Lutz! I should have looked into Amara's binderytools module earlier. This is just the type of tool I was looking for. When I tried testing its compatibility with py2exe, I was _almost_ able to compile... Does anyone know where the following libraries exist? I thought Amara would have these included, but it looks like I need to install another module. Were currently on the 4Suite mailing list chasing down all the magic required for py2exe. I'm largely a Windows illiterate, but this looks like what I remember: http://lists.fourthought.com/pipermail/4suite/2005-March/013450.html I do want to be sure Amara can be packaged with py2exe, so please let me know if this helps. You might want to consider continuing the discussion on the 4SUite list (which I use for Amara discussion as well). I follow that list far more diligently than c.l.py. -- Uche OgbujiFourthought, Inc. http://uche.ogbuji.nethttp://4Suite.orghttp://fourthought.com Use CSS to display XML, part 2 - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss2-i.html Introducing the Amara XML Toolkit - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/01/19/amara.html Gems from the Mines: 2002 to 2003 - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/03/02/pyxml.html Be humble, not imperial (in design) - http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=10286 Querying WordNet as XML - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-think29.html Packaging XSLT lookup tables as EXSLT functions - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tiplook2.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 11:04 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I've exhausted every option except for Amara, I've decided to give it a try. However, this will only work if I can compile Amara and 4suite along with my application. I doubt 4suite will be able to be compiled, but I'll try it anyway. Actually, as I mentioned in my last message, we do have some success reports re: 4Suite + py2exe. See the March archives of the 4Suite list. I think it took some work from those of the 4Suite developers who are Windows-savvy, it did the job. -- Uche OgbujiFourthought, Inc. http://uche.ogbuji.nethttp://4Suite.orghttp://fourthought.com Use CSS to display XML, part 2 - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss2-i.html Introducing the Amara XML Toolkit - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/01/19/amara.html Gems from the Mines: 2002 to 2003 - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/03/02/pyxml.html Be humble, not imperial (in design) - http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=10286 Querying WordNet as XML - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-think29.html Packaging XSLT lookup tables as EXSLT functions - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tiplook2.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried xmltramp and element tree, but these tools aren't what I had in mind. What I'm looking to use are basic structures such as: root.path root.input.method root.input.filename root.output.filename I haven't used xmltramp but it seems to allow this style of access. Look at the examples in this article: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/12/17/py-xml.html Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. I came across gnosis XML tools, but need a built-in option for doing something similar. I too needed such thing, and made this simple parser: http://ivoras.sharanet.org/projects/xmldict.py.gz It's really quick and dirty. It doesn't even use standard parsers such as dom or sax, but improvises its own. It's also very likely to fail in mysterious ways when it encounters invalid XML, but for quick and dirty jobs, it's very nice and easy. See the bottom of the file for some quick examples. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
One reason I chose not to use ConfigParser module is that I also have a similar config file for a MATLAB compiled program to run along with my Python script. XML would eliminate the need to use two different style configuration files. Another reason is that the programmer who is writing the GUI to interface with my Python/Matlab programs must be able to easily read/modify/write these configuration files. Since he is already using XML for other purposes in the Netbeans GUI, this was a logical choice. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
Thanks Lutz! I should have looked into Amara's binderytools module earlier. This is just the type of tool I was looking for. When I tried testing its compatibility with py2exe, I was _almost_ able to compile... Does anyone know where the following libraries exist? I thought Amara would have these included, but it looks like I need to install another module. SNIPprevious compiling stuff/SNIP *** copy dlls *** copying C:\WINDOWS\system32\python23.dll - E:\src\python\xml\dist copying c:\python23\w9xpopen.exe - E:\src\python\xml\dist setting sys.winver for 'E:\src\python\xml\dist\python23.dll' to 'py2exe' copying c:\python23\lib\site-packages\py2exe\run.exe - E:\src\python\xml\dist\amarabind.exe The following modules appear to be missing ['FtMiniDom.GetAllNs', 'FtMiniDom.SeekNss', 'FtMiniDom.implementation', 'FtMiniD om.nonvalParse', 'FtMiniDom.valParse', 'XmlStripc', 'xml.parsers.xmlproc'] E:\src\python\xml These Ft* and Xml* modules should have been installed with Amara, correct? After running the setup.py script, it generates my .EXE file and outputs the correct text, but with the addition of a prepended Traceback dump: E:\src\python\xml\distamarabind.exe Traceback (most recent call last): File Ft\Xml\Catalog.pyc, line 320, in ? File Ft\Xml\Catalog.pyc, line 68, in __init__ File Ft\Xml\Catalog.pyc, line 85, in parse File Ft\Xml\Catalog.pyc, line 131, in parseXmlCat File xml\sax\expatreader.pyc, line 107, in parse File xml\sax\xmlreader.pyc, line 123, in parse File xml\sax\expatreader.pyc, line 207, in feed File xml\sax\expatreader.pyc, line 379, in external_entity_ref File xml\sax\saxutils.pyc, line 292, in prepare_input_source File urllib.pyc, line 76, in urlopen File urllib.pyc, line 154, in open File urllib.pyc, line 937, in toBytes LookupError: unknown encoding: ASCII Default catalog C:\Python23\Share\4Suite\default.cat not found Anise-Almond Biscotti margarine :: 4 tablespoons sugar :: 3/4 cup eggs :: 4 all-purpose flour :: 21/2 cups crushed anise seeds :: 2 teaspoons baking powder :: 1 1/2 teaspoons salt :: 1/4 teaspoon whole blanched almonds :: 1/3 cup Any additional help is greatly appreciated! Jay -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
Since I've exhausted every option except for Amara, I've decided to give it a try. However, this will only work if I can compile Amara and 4suite along with my application. I doubt 4suite will be able to be compiled, but I'll try it anyway. If I weren't set on using XML (I know, not every application requires it and it's abused), I would probably go with a simpler format like an INI file or YAML. The requirement that leads me to use XML for a simple config file is that the rest of this project already utilizes XML and another developer must integrate his NetBeans GUI with my app and config file. Not to mention that this must be across Linux and Windows platforms. To make this easier on everyone else, I'm using a simple XML schema that I know everyone can write to. As far as I know, YAML isn't easily written to from a Java class and an INI file isn't very popular on the Linux side. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I've exhausted every option except for Amara, I've decided to give it a try. why didn't xmltramp or elementtree work for your application? they're used all over the place, in all sorts of applications, so it would be interesting to know what's so special about your app... /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
I've tried xmltramp and element tree, but these tools aren't what I had in mind. I've come to the realization that it's not the tools that are lacking. In fact, I'm a big fan of ElementTree now, but would only use it for large parsing tasks. Instead, I think the problem is either inherent in the XML standard, or I'm missing something conceptually. Let me elaborate. Most of these tools I've experimented with parse a document rather easily into a structure that I can traverse one element at a time. Each level of a node/tree has 4 basic pieces: 1) the tag, 2) one or more attributes, 3) encapsulated data, and 4) children nodes/trees From what I understand, this is how XML was standardized, in a sort of hierarchical structure of infinite possibilities. The problem I'm having with these structures is that I need to actively search through each level for the item I want. All I really want to do is access one or more elements at the same time and know where they are without searching. What I'm looking to use are basic structures such as: root.path root.input.method root.input.filename root.output.filename to name a few. Since these are essentially unique constants that will only be used once or twice, I want to be able to place them in a function argument, or concatenate several of them, such as root.path and root.input.filename to create a new string. I'm finding it rather impossible to do such things unless I basically create my own structure from the tree structure that I get when I parse the XML document. If I used a simple INI file or CSV file, I would simply have to parse my file once and match the name with the value. Why is it necessary to parse a document once and then re-parse your information into a format that you can use. This seems absurd to me. Any thoughts on this? Do I even have the correct understanding of how this is done? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
On 18 Mar 2005 20:24:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I understand, this is how XML was standardized, in a sort of hierarchical structure of infinite possibilities. The problem I'm having with these structures is that I need to actively search through each level for the item I want. All I really want to do is access one or more elements at the same time and know where they are without searching. What I'm looking to use are basic structures such as: root.path root.input.method root.input.filename root.output.filename You should be using XPath (4suite has it) to get the parts that you want. A really quick intro is at http://simon.incutio.com/archive/2003/10/21/xpathRocks Regards, -- Swaroop C H Blog: http://www.swaroopch.info Book: http://www.byteofpython.info -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. Take a look at Amara (http://uche.ogbuji.net/tech/4Suite/amara/). Lutz -- pub 1024D/6EBDA359 1999-09-20 Lutz Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 438D 31FC 9300 CED0 1CDE A19D CD0F 9CA2 6EBD A359 http://purl.oclc.org/NET/lutz.horn http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/registerr=200 -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
Amara does indeed make it effortless to transform an XML document into a Python structure. Unfortunately this suggestion requires the 3rd party software, Amara, _and_ a 4Suite installation according to the website. The reason I can't expect users to have 3rd party tools is because this tool will be used in a secure lab environment without Internet access. Asking the admins to place these software packages on the network for users to install is like asking GW to say something semi-intelligent. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amara does indeed make it effortless to transform an XML document into a Python structure. Unfortunately this suggestion requires the 3rd party software, Amara, _and_ a 4Suite installation according to the website. The reason I can't expect users to have 3rd party tools is because this tool will be used in a secure lab environment without Internet access. Asking the admins to place these software packages on the network for users to install is like asking GW to say something semi-intelligent. Why not use distutils to install any additional packages you need? That's what it's there for. Presumably you're going to need to package this thing for distribution anyway. -- Website: www DOT jarmania FULLSTOP com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
A good question... Here's a followup question: Does third-party software compile as well as the built-in modules when using distutils and the py2exe extension module? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
Am Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:19:49 -0800 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. I came across gnosis XML tools, but need a built-in option for doing something similar. My knowledge of DOM and anything beyond simple XML structures is rudimentary at best. Is there a simple way to use SAX handlers to pull attributes and elements into Python lists/dictionaries? Hi, Just write a script which uses xml.sax. It is not difficult. You get an event for every start-tag and for every end-tag. The class which handles the events can build the structure if your XML file. The online version of the python cookbook has some python and SAX examples, Thomas -- Thomas Güttler, http://www.thomas-guettler.de/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. I came across gnosis XML tools, but need a built-in option for doing something similar. My knowledge of DOM and anything beyond simple XML structures is rudimentary at best. Is there a simple way to use SAX handlers to pull attributes and elements into Python lists/dictionaries? tools like ElementTree and xmltramp are very easy to use. ElementTree builds a tree of Element objects which behave like lists (of subelements) and contain dictionaries (of attributes). xmltramp builds a tree where both subelements and attributes are mapped to object attributes. http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/xmltramp/ http://www.effbot.org/zone/element-index.htm if you want to ship any of them with your application, you only need a single module (xmltramp.py and ElementTree.py, respectively). API summaries: http://reagle.org/joseph/blog/technology/python/elementtree-model http://reagle.org/joseph/blog/technology/python/xmltramp-model (xmltramp might be a bit easier to use for simple cases, elementtree is a bit more flexible and a bit more efficient, especially if you're using the C implementation) /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:39:42 +0100, Lutz Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. If using XML is not absolutely essential, you might want to take a look at YAML[1, 2]. [1] http://yaml.org/ [2] http://python.yaml.org/dist/ -- Premshree Pillai http://www.livejournal.com/users/premshree/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Simple XML-to-Python conversion
Lutz Horn wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. Take a look at Amara (http://uche.ogbuji.net/tech/4Suite/amara/). Lutz Amara rules xml to python conversions. I've used it successfully for an xml interface to legacy databases. Huy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Simple XML-to-Python conversion
I've been searching high and low for a way to simply convert a small XML configuration file to Python data structures. I came across gnosis XML tools, but need a built-in option for doing something similar. My knowledge of DOM and anything beyond simple XML structures is rudimentary at best. Is there a simple way to use SAX handlers to pull attributes and elements into Python lists/dictionaries? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
