Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Friday, August 19 at 17:12 (-0400), Matty Sarro said: If you're that offended then spend the cycles fixing the damn list so it stops having so much spam. You realize spam comes in almost constantly, right? Enough that multiple tines over the past weeks there have been no less than 3 threads about it. For me, the original post ended in my spam box, which means my filter is doing it's job, but when you re-post it, my filter did not regard it as spam. I actually wish it had. Therefore you are an enabler. If php, red hat, and perl can manage it for their lists, why not python? Is that a statement about python programmers? The python list is (also) a Usenet newsgroup. Usenet is distributed and therefore there is no central place to filter spam (each usenet host would have to have its own filter and what one considers spam another might consider ham)... anyway, that's neither here nor there. Having my own filter usually works. I'm not here to dis you, just to try to help you understand the how/why regarding the re-post and why your attitude about it might give the impression of apathy toward your peer community. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I found said joke rather funny :P -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:10:49 -0400 Rodrick Brown rodrick.br...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the end of the world calm down I thought it was quite funny for a friday joke! The first message might have been funny (if you are twelve) but the rest were annoying and insulting. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: ... I found said joke rather funny :P Perhaps, as a retired amateur comedian, my standards are too high, but I don't think adding a smilie to a stupid post suddenly turns it into a joke. Nevertheless, the quality of the attempt is not really the issue here. The would-be humorist did not need to quote the spam. Please, don't do it. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 08:17:32 -0400 David Robinow drobi...@gmail.com wrote: I found said joke rather funny :P Perhaps, as a retired amateur comedian, my standards are too high, How does one retire from amateur status? Do you suddenly start charging for telling jokes? :-) but I don't think adding a smilie to a stupid post suddenly turns it into a joke. Nevertheless, the quality of the attempt is not really the issue here. The would-be humorist did not need to quote the spam. Well, exactly. I don't think that anyone made any comment about the quality of the joke when talking about the first posting. The only thing that people said was that he shouldn't have repeated the spam. Everyone, including the original poster, who defended the post did so on the grounds that it was funny. That's certainly debatable but no one was telling him not to post until he gets funnier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man Whether the post was funny or not is a judgment call. No one is saying not to post unfunny jokes because no one is the arbiter of what's funny. If you want to argue with the complainers, argue with their actual complaint. Tell us why it is OK to repeat spam with all the spammy URLS intact By the way, my joke above is hilarious. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
Matty Sarro wrote: That's great - but do they program in python? Thanks for that, I didn't see the spam the first time, but thanks to your joke I saw it now! I really appreciate that, because I LOVE to have spam sent to me, including all the URLs. An extra bonus is that when the posting is archived on a couple of dozen websites, this will boost the spammer's Google rankings. Thanks heaps! Your joke was so worth it. Not. [spam deleted] -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
It's not the end of the world calm down I thought it was quite funny for a friday joke! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Matty Sarro wrote: That's great - but do they program in python? Thanks for that, I didn't see the spam the first time, but thanks to your joke I saw it now! I really appreciate that, because I LOVE to have spam sent to me, including all the URLs. An extra bonus is that when the posting is archived on a couple of dozen websites, this will boost the spammer's Google rankings. Thanks heaps! Your joke was so worth it. Not. [spam deleted] -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
It was a joke, no need to be a prick about it. If you're that offended then spend the cycles fixing the damn list so it stops having so much spam. You realize spam comes in almost constantly, right? Enough that multiple tines over the past weeks there have been no less than 3 threads about it. If php, red hat, and perl can manage it for their lists, why not python? Is that a statement about python programmers? God forbid I try to make a joke. Grow up. On Aug 19, 2011 4:46 PM, Steven Dapos;Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Matty Sarro wrote: That's great - but do they program in python? Thanks for that, I didn't see the spam the first time, but thanks to your joke I saw it now! I really appreciate that, because I LOVE to have spam sent to me, including all the URLs. An extra bonus is that when the posting is archived on a couple of dozen websites, this will boost the spammer's Google rankings. Thanks heaps! Your joke was so worth it. Not. [spam deleted] -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
Glad someone has a sense of humor :) If one person smiled I consider it a success. Happy weekend! On Aug 19, 2011 5:12 PM, Rodrick Brown rodrick.br...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the end of the world calm down I thought it was quite funny for a friday joke! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Matty Sarro wrote: That's great - but do they program in python? Thanks for that, I didn't see the spam the first time, but thanks to your joke I saw it now! I really appreciate that, because I LOVE to have spam sent to me, including all the URLs. An extra bonus is that when the posting is archived on a couple of dozen websites, this will boost the spammer's Google rankings. Thanks heaps! Your joke was so worth it. Not. [spam deleted] -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:12:40 -0400 Matty Sarro msa...@gmail.com wrote: It was a joke, no need to be a prick about it. It was spam. You're the prick. If you think spam is funny it's because you aren't the one that has to spend your time dealing with the fallout. If you're that offended then spend the cycles fixing the damn list so it Most of us have fixed it. We didn't see the spam until you repeated it. For whatever reason the original message was caught by our filters. You helped the spammer break through. I can assure you though that your attitude means that you won't be able to help them again. I can hear the plonking going on all over the net. Here's another one; *plonk* No point in replying. I won't hear it. Hope you don't have any important questions for the group. It just became more of a read-only list for you. If php, red hat, and perl can manage it for their lists, why not python? Is that a statement about python programmers? And that should get you blacklisted by anyone on the cusp. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain da...@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Stop quoting spam [was Re: Hot Girls ...]
On Friday, August 19 at 17:12 (-0400), Matty Sarro said: If you're that offended then spend the cycles fixing the damn list so it stops having so much spam. You realize spam comes in almost constantly, right? Enough that multiple tines over the past weeks there have been no less than 3 threads about it. For me, the original post ended in my spam box, which means my filter is doing it's job, but when you re-post it, my filter did not regard it as spam. I actually wish it had. Therefore you are an enabler. If php, red hat, and perl can manage it for their lists, why not python? Is that a statement about python programmers? The python list is (also) a Usenet newsgroup. Usenet is distributed and therefore there is no central place to filter spam (each usenet host would have to have its own filter and what one considers spam another might consider ham)... anyway, that's neither here nor there. Having my own filter usually works. I'm not here to dis you, just to try to help you understand the how/why regarding the re-post and why your attitude about it might give the impression of apathy toward your peer community. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
