Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-13 Thread Jan Bijsterbosch
Hello Luis,

Luis M. González [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef in bericht 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I happen to have delphi, so if someone wants me to make small changes,
 just let me know, I'll try to help

 Hmm... now that you offer, would it be possible to have the colors of
 text just like in IDLE?
 I tried configuring the colors, but some of them don't exist as options
 in this IDE (for example orange).

Hmm, it's a little bit hidden, but if you go to Options / Editor / Syntax 
Colors and be sure to select Python language as editor syntax then select 
'reserved words' and after that from the color dropdown box select Custom... 
(the topmost option) a color dialog pops up and you can select any color You 
want...;-))

 I like how text looks in IDLE, with orange for reserved words, green
 for strings, etc...

With the above, no problem at all...;-))

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan 


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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-13 Thread Jan Bijsterbosch
Hello Jonathan,

Jonathan Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef in bericht 
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 ago wrote:
 I have just discovered Python Scripter by Kiriakos Vlahos and it was a
 pleasant surprise. I thought that it deserved to be signalled. It is
 slim and fairly fast, with embedded graphical debugger, class browser,
 file browser... If you are into graphical IDEs you are probably going
 to enjoy it. Windows only unfortunately.

 http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4

 Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I'd recommend using an IDE that
 isn't based on an obviously dead-end platform.  (PyScripter is written
 in Delphi.)

Hmm, dead-end platform, where did that idea come from?
I certainly won't want to start anything remotely resembling to a language 
warg, but I have to say after more than 20 years of programming with 
Borland products in C, C++(Builder), Kylix and Delphi, there's certainly no 
end in sight yet...;-))

 -Jonathan

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan 


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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-13 Thread Luis M. González

Jan Bijsterbosch wrote:
 Hello Luis,

 Luis M. González [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef in bericht
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I happen to have delphi, so if someone wants me to make small changes,
  just let me know, I'll try to help
 
  Hmm... now that you offer, would it be possible to have the colors of
  text just like in IDLE?
  I tried configuring the colors, but some of them don't exist as options
  in this IDE (for example orange).

 Hmm, it's a little bit hidden, but if you go to Options / Editor / Syntax
 Colors and be sure to select Python language as editor syntax then select
 'reserved words' and after that from the color dropdown box select Custom...
 (the topmost option) a color dialog pops up and you can select any color You
 want...;-))

  I like how text looks in IDLE, with orange for reserved words, green
  for strings, etc...

 With the above, no problem at all...;-))

 Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

 Jan

Thank you!
You're right, the custom option is a litle bit hiddenm but now I
customized it just as I wanted.
Great IDE! I love it...

Luis

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread Jan Bijsterbosch
Hello ago, Bernard,

ago [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef in bericht 
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 Bernard Lebel wrote:
 Not me. I'll probably sound pedantic but
 - the editor text looks awful, changing the editor options had no effect 
 at all
 - there is no network access of UNC paths other than through File 
 Open and Python Paths. all of my code is on a network location
 - expanding and collapsing directories is done with a transition
 effect that drives me nuts

 You can certainly change the font of the editor (ToolsOptionsEditor
 OptionsDisplayEditor FontFont), not to be confused with the font of
 the Gutter which only changes the font inside the left bar (i.e. for
 line numbers). Admittedly there are not too many fonts to choose from.

Furthermore the full source of the editor is available in the Delphi python 
VCL components package as an example from the same site. If you're a happy 
owner of Delphi, you just can change everything to your liking and 
recompile...;-))

Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

Jan 


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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread digitalorganics
Great IDE! I love it. Two things that make me very happy:

1. Unlike PythonWin and Stan's Python Editor (SPE), PyScripter shows
not just methods but also attributes in the class browser. [I'll
mention that Eric3 also does this, but I don't use Eric3 much because
the editor component doesn't allow scrolling through my code with a
mouse wheel (something I'm extremely used to being able to do at this
point).]

2. Extremely useful tooltips! You can receive context sensitive
information on methods, variables, and classes just by hovering over
them with your mouse! Awesome, truly awe inspiring.


I also like the modern look! Very slick and configurable. The variable
window below is nice too...

Thanks for mentioning!


Cheers,

DigiO

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread digitalorganics

Jan Bijsterbosch wrote:
 Hello ago, Bernard,

 ago [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef in bericht
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Bernard Lebel wrote:
  Not me. I'll probably sound pedantic but
  - the editor text looks awful, changing the editor options had no effect
  at all
  - there is no network access of UNC paths other than through File 
  Open and Python Paths. all of my code is on a network location
  - expanding and collapsing directories is done with a transition
  effect that drives me nuts
 
  You can certainly change the font of the editor (ToolsOptionsEditor
  OptionsDisplayEditor FontFont), not to be confused with the font of
  the Gutter which only changes the font inside the left bar (i.e. for
  line numbers). Admittedly there are not too many fonts to choose from.

 Furthermore the full source of the editor is available in the Delphi python
 VCL components package as an example from the same site. If you're a happy
 owner of Delphi, you just can change everything to your liking and
 recompile...;-))

 Greetings from sunny Amsterdam,

 Jan

I happen to have delphi, so if someone wants me to make small changes,
just let me know, I'll try to help

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread digitalorganics
By the way, does anyone know if / how you can change the key bindings
in PythonWin? In PyScripter, I was quite pleased that the autocomplete
lets you make your selection by pressing enter (natural), yet in
PythonWin you have to press tab (unnatural). Thanks.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Great IDE! I love it. Two things that make me very happy:

 1. Unlike PythonWin and Stan's Python Editor (SPE), PyScripter shows
 not just methods but also attributes in the class browser. [I'll
 mention that Eric3 also does this, but I don't use Eric3 much because
 the editor component doesn't allow scrolling through my code with a
 mouse wheel (something I'm extremely used to being able to do at this
 point).]

 2. Extremely useful tooltips! You can receive context sensitive
 information on methods, variables, and classes just by hovering over
 them with your mouse! Awesome, truly awe inspiring.


 I also like the modern look! Very slick and configurable. The variable
 window below is nice too...
 
 Thanks for mentioning!
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 DigiO

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread Jonathan Ellis
ago wrote:
 I have just discovered Python Scripter by Kiriakos Vlahos and it was a
 pleasant surprise. I thought that it deserved to be signalled. It is
 slim and fairly fast, with embedded graphical debugger, class browser,
 file browser... If you are into graphical IDEs you are probably going
 to enjoy it. Windows only unfortunately.

 http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4

Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I'd recommend using an IDE that
isn't based on an obviously dead-end platform.  (PyScripter is written
in Delphi.)

-Jonathan

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread Luis M. González

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I happen to have delphi, so if someone wants me to make small changes,
 just let me know, I'll try to help

Hmm... now that you offer, would it be possible to have the colors of
text just like in IDLE?
I tried configuring the colors, but some of them don't exist as options
in this IDE (for example orange).

I like how text looks in IDLE, with orange for reserved words, green
for strings, etc...

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-12 Thread Luis M. González

Jonathan Ellis wrote:
 ago wrote:
  I have just discovered Python Scripter by Kiriakos Vlahos and it was a
  pleasant surprise. I thought that it deserved to be signalled. It is
  slim and fairly fast, with embedded graphical debugger, class browser,
  file browser... If you are into graphical IDEs you are probably going
  to enjoy it. Windows only unfortunately.
 
  http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4

 Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I'd recommend using an IDE that
 isn't based on an obviously dead-end platform.  (PyScripter is written
 in Delphi.)

 -Jonathan

As long as people keep on using win32, it will be just fine.
After that, who knows what would be the best option? Delphi.Net
perhaps?

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Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-07 Thread ago
I have just discovered Python Scripter by Kiriakos Vlahos and it was a
pleasant surprise. I thought that it deserved to be signalled. It is
slim and fairly fast, with embedded graphical debugger, class browser,
file browser... If you are into graphical IDEs you are probably going
to enjoy it. Windows only unfortunately.

http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-07 Thread sam
Very interesting, I have downloaded it,and I like what I see.

ago wrote:
 I have just discovered Python Scripter by Kiriakos Vlahos and it was a
 pleasant surprise. I thought that it deserved to be signalled. It is
 slim and fairly fast, with embedded graphical debugger, class browser,
 file browser... If you are into graphical IDEs you are probably going
 to enjoy it. Windows only unfortunately.
 
 http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-07 Thread Bernard Lebel
Not me. I'll probably sound pedantic but
- the editor text looks awful, changing the editor options had no effect at all
- there is no network access of UNC paths other than through File 
Open and Python Paths. all of my code is on a network location
- expanding and collapsing directories is done with a transition
effect that drives me nuts


Bernard



On 7 Jun 2006 10:38:00 -0700, sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very interesting, I have downloaded it,and I like what I see.

 ago wrote:
  I have just discovered Python Scripter by Kiriakos Vlahos and it was a
  pleasant surprise. I thought that it deserved to be signalled. It is
  slim and fairly fast, with embedded graphical debugger, class browser,
  file browser... If you are into graphical IDEs you are probably going
  to enjoy it. Windows only unfortunately.
 
  http://mmm-experts.com/Products.aspx?ProductId=4

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Re: Very nice python IDE (windows only)

2006-06-07 Thread ago

Bernard Lebel wrote:
 Not me. I'll probably sound pedantic but
 - the editor text looks awful, changing the editor options had no effect at 
 all
 - there is no network access of UNC paths other than through File 
 Open and Python Paths. all of my code is on a network location
 - expanding and collapsing directories is done with a transition
 effect that drives me nuts

You can certainly change the font of the editor (ToolsOptionsEditor
OptionsDisplayEditor FontFont), not to be confused with the font of
the Gutter which only changes the font inside the left bar (i.e. for
line numbers). Admittedly there are not too many fonts to choose from.

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